Ban of 3 substances will cripple sugar industry: expert

[webfact]

Ban of 3 substances will cripple sugar industry: expert

By THE NATION

 

 

Dr Kitti Chunhawong, president of Thailand Society of Sugarcane Technologists (TSSCT) insisted on Tuesday (November 12) that the banning of 3 agrochemical substances namely Paraquat, Chlorpyrifos and Glyphosate by the Hazardous Substance Committee, which came into effect last month, will severely affect the sugar industry.

 

“Currently Thailand is world’s 5th sugar producer and 2nd biggest exporter with more than 11 million rai of sugarcane plantation areas and 134 million tonnes of sugarcane produced per year,” he said. “The ban of these 3 substances, especially Paraquat, will affect the sugar production in 2020 as well as other related industries such as food processing, animal feed, ethanol manufacturing and biomass power plants.”

 

Kitti further explained that based on preliminary estimates, the sugarcane production will decrease 20-50 per cent if Paraquat is not used, causing 67 million tonnes of sugarcane to disappear from the market annually and costing the farmers at least Bt50 billion in income. “Biomass power plants will also lose approximately Bt7.4 billion due to the disappearance of 11 million tonnes of sugarcane leaves that are used to make biomass fuel,” he added.

 

Meanwhile, the sugar industry will suffer from reduced production of 6.7 million tonnes of raw sugar annually valued at Bt47 billion, while molasses production will go down by 3.3 million tonnes annually, valued at Bt10 billion. “The ethanol industry will also take a hit, with 840 million litres and Bt18 billion missing,” said Kitti.

 

“The government must urgently help the sugarcane farmers by supporting production factors, which include weed killers, fertilisers and harvesting machines, as the ban of Paraquat will drive the production cost up even further,” he said. “Alternately, we urge the government to reconsider the Hazardous Substance Committee’s decision to ban Paraquat, as its effect to human health is still ambiguous.”

 

Kitti cited the report from United States Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA), which claims that Paraquat has no connection with cancers in humans and Parkinson's disease, while its residue in agricultural products bears no significant toxicological effects.

 

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[keith101]

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

“Alternately, we urge the government to reconsider the Hazardous Substance Committee’s decision to ban Paraquat, as its effect to human health is still ambiguous.”

paraquat

noun

para·quat | \ ˈpar-ə-ˌkwät \

Medical Definition of paraquat

 

: an herbicide containing a salt of a cation [C₁₂H₁₄N₂]²⁺ that is used especially as a weed killer and that is extremely toxic to the liver, kidneys, and lungs if ingested .

 

Examples of paraquat in a Sentence

Recent Examples on the Web Similarly, in South Korea, a ban on the herbicide paraquat was followed by a 50% decrease in suicide deaths from pesticide poisoning from 2011-2013. — Katie Hunt, CNN, "One person dies every 40 seconds from suicide, WHO says," 9 Sep. 2019 For comparison, a 2010 study found that 42.7 percent of people admitted to two Sri Lankan hospitals for suicide attempts involving the herbicide paraquat wound up dying. — Dylan Matthews, Vox, "How pesticide bans can prevent tens of thousands of suicides a year," 15 Nov. 2018

 

 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Ban of 3 substances will cripple sugar industry: expert

 

Expert? He's an inside figure in the industry and can hardly be trusted to be impartial.

[Topdoc]

1 hour ago, keith101 said:

extremely toxic to the liver

Is it a coincidence that the incidence rate of liver cancer in Khon Kaen is the highest in the world and that Khon Kaen is one of the country's major sugarcane growing areas?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12718642

 

[Catoholic]

29 minutes ago, Topdoc said:

Is it a coincidence that the incidence rate of liver cancer in Khon Kaen is the highest in the world and that Khon Kaen is one of the country's major sugarcane growing areas?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12718642

 

Of course it is.

Banning pesticides to prevent suicide... Oh wait it's a CNN story... 

Edited November 13, 2019 by Catoholic

[Youlike]

How do the farmers in Queensland Australia do it? Do they still use paraquat and the lot?

[overherebc]

52 minutes ago, Topdoc said:

Is it a coincidence that the incidence rate of liver cancer in Khon Kaen is the highest in the world and that Khon Kaen is one of the country's major sugarcane growing areas?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12718642

 

Flukes, and I'm not swearing at you.

[farmerjo]

20 minutes ago, Youlike said:

How do the farmers in Queensland Australia do it? Do they still use paraquat and the lot?

Yes.

[MaxLee]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Ban of 3 substances will cripple sugar industry: expert

By THE NATION

 

 

Dr Kitti Chunhawong, president of Thailand Society of Sugarcane Technologists (TSSCT) insisted on Tuesday (November 12) that the banning of 3 agrochemical substances namely Paraquat, Chlorpyrifos and Glyphosate by the Hazardous Substance Committee, which came into effect last month, will severely affect the sugar industry.

Just shut the H******* up, before the responsible Agricultural ministries will make a huge U-turn...... 

[sweatalot]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Ban of 3 substances will cripple sugar industry

better cripple the industry than cripple humans - and innocent animals as well

[Myran]

Better that the industry becomes crippled than the industry crippling people.

[unamazedloso]

ban sugar cane as well. its killed nore people in my neighbourhood than anything else. The black rain and chemicals have to be banned, end of story.... All this assistance to farmers to kill themselves and innocent neighbours just to export the sht...? 

i used to have 3 bee hives but the bees all died as soon as they planted suger cane next to my property.. Killing more than just humans!!

[somo]

Glyphosate and Paraquate are dangerous to the farmer if used improperly. For those who believe they penetrate the food chain to any significant level you are mistaken but if you insist it is the case I recomend you stop eating now. If it is in the ground then it is in all food animal and vegetable so stop eating immediately! 

Edited November 13, 2019 by somo

[Tayaout]

1 minute ago, unamazedloso said:

i used to have 3 bee hives but the bees all died as soon as they planted suger cane next to my property.. Killing more than just humans!!

I bought some bee hives for wild bees when I moved here. Then I noticed there is no bees at all. I'm in the middle of sugar cane and cassava fields. 

[Tayaout]

3 minutes ago, somo said:

Glyphosate and Paraquate are dangerous to the farmer if used improperly. For those who believe they penetrate the food chain to any significant level you are mistaken but if you insist it is the case I recomend you stop eating now. If it is in the ground then it is in all food animal and vegetable so stop eating immediately! 

It is found in the Canadian food chain and it's probably worse in the US and anywhere they spray glyphosate pre-harvest. 

 

[briansbiology]

I have as much sympathy for the sugar industry as i do the cocaine industry. 

[Chazar]

4 hours ago, keith101 said:

paraquat

noun

para·quat | \ ˈpar-ə-ˌkwät \

Medical Definition of paraquat

 

: an herbicide containing a salt of a cation [C₁₂H₁₄N₂]²⁺ that is used especially as a weed killer and that is extremely toxic to the liver, kidneys, and lungs if ingested .

 

Examples of paraquat in a Sentence

Recent Examples on the Web Similarly, in South Korea, a ban on the herbicide paraquat was followed by a 50% decrease in suicide deaths from pesticide poisoning from 2011-2013. — Katie Hunt, CNN, "One person dies every 40 seconds from suicide, WHO says," 9 Sep. 2019 For comparison, a 2010 study found that 42.7 percent of people admitted to two Sri Lankan hospitals for suicide attempts involving the herbicide paraquat wound up dying. — Dylan Matthews, Vox, "How pesticide bans can prevent tens of thousands of suicides a year," 15 Nov. 2018

 

 

suicide  nonsense  again.............just  get  on  the  Thai  roads thats  a  real  good  suicide  attempt

[farmerjo]

14 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

I bought some bee hives for wild bees when I moved here. Then I noticed there is no bees at all. I'm in the middle of sugar cane and cassava fields. 

Interesting.

I'm surrounded by sugar as far as the eye can see.

I grow a crop that needs pollination from bees and it's set seed nicely. 

[dcnx]

How are the 4 countries exporting more sugar than Thailand surviving?

[FarFlungFalang]

Won't affect our production because we never use chemicals the guy is full of it and himself and obviously makes his millions selling poisonous chemical.The only thing reduced will be his profits from poisoning the food chain.

Edited November 13, 2019 by FarFlungFalang

[dcnx]

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

Flukes, and I'm not swearing at you.

Yes, fluke is a killer. Those little fish they continue to eat knowing it will probably give them liver cancer. 
 

You can’t teach them.

[Tayaout]

31 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

Interesting.

I'm surrounded by sugar as far as the eye can see.

I grow a crop that needs pollination from bees and it's set seed nicely. 

Are you sure you see honey bees? Pollinators that I see in my area are bumblebee, butterfly, ant, hornet and many others but no wild honey bees at all. Still pollination is poor compared to my previous experience in Canada. 

Edited November 13, 2019 by Tayaout

[FarFlungFalang]

I think this guy is also president of the Thailand Organic Sustainable Sugar Environmentalists Representatives (TOSSER) and he should come clean about his vested interest.

[Vacuum]

3 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Is it a coincidence that the incidence rate of liver cancer in Khon Kaen is the highest in the world and that Khon Kaen is one of the country's major sugarcane growing areas?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12718642

 

The use of pla raa could also be a contributing factor.

[d2b2]

Check his bank account for deposits from chemical companies

[GarryP]

3 hours ago, overherebc said:

Flukes, and I'm not swearing at you.

Actually, I'm with you on this. Liver cancer rates are very high in the North East and it is mainly attributed to the eating of raw or under-cooked fish and high levels of rice whiskey consumption.  However, I am sure that agro-chemicals also contribute to the problem.

 

Perhaps one good knock-on effect is improved air quality due to less burning if farmers turn away from sugar cane.   

[zyphodb]

5 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Is it a coincidence that the incidence rate of liver cancer in Khon Kaen is the highest in the world and that Khon Kaen is one of the country's major sugarcane growing areas?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12718642

 

More to do with Pla ra & raw pork consumption I think, but probably helps...

 

[Kraig62]

2 hours ago, farmerjo said:

Interesting.

I'm surrounded by sugar as far as the eye can see.

I grow a crop that needs pollination from bees and it's set seed nicely. 

Insects, birds, wind mai?

[teacherofwoe]

You just need to wiki this stuff:

It is quick-acting and non-selective, killing green plant tissue on contact. It is also toxic to human beings and animals due to its redox activity, which produces superoxide anions. It has been linked to the development of Parkinson's disease^[6][7] and is banned in several countries.

Paraquat was first manufactured and sold by ICI in early 1962, and is today among the most commonly used herbicides.

Amazing! Toxic to humans causing Parkinson's and is one of the most common pesticides. And apparently without it, according to our expert, we can't grow sugar like they did 50 years ago.

[sawadee1947]

Well, that's a good point. 

So it's a stupid idea to ban those chemicals in the name of economy, means profit?. ????

As always.... Thainess at It's best