Huge cuts in UK State Pensions

[steve187]

this stopping of ADI has been on the cards for 10 years, i have when in the correct thread, posted about this a few times. also some may be unaware they can transfer 10% of their wife's tax free allowance over to them, the wife would have had to have lived in the UK at some time, and have a tax reference/UTR number - https://www.gov.uk/apply-marriage-allowance

Edited November 17, 2019 by steve187

[shy coconut]

5 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

No mention of up-rating ex pats pensions in all the election promises by any party that I have seen. Comrade Corbyn is promising to spend billions on free broadband though!

What's wrong with free broadband? 

 

I'm not sure many expats would vote labour anyway if the more vocal members here

are a gauge.

[yogi100]

1 minute ago, transam said:

OK, don't clear it up...

You said you lived in UK then later you lived in LOS...Suppose I must ignore your posts in case of porkies then....????

I said I live in the UK. Which I do.

 

I holiday in Pattaya on a regular basis which I also do. I can get from London to Bangkok in 12 hours. Get it now.

 

 

Oh and please feel free to ignore my posts and regard my posts as 'porkies' if that's what floats your boat. You'll be doing me a favour.

[ivor bigun]

5 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Entirely due to 10 years of under investment and poor management by successive Tory governments.

 

Vote Labour and watch it being turned round.

I will tell you what its due to ,in my old home town anyway ,waiting room full of people from foreign lands ,half cant speak English and all on social ,and voting labour ,lol

[transam]

4 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

I said I live in the UK. Which I do.

 

I holiday in Pattaya on a regular basis which I also do. I can get from London to Bangkok in 12 hours. Get it now.

 

 

Oh and please feel free to ignore my posts and regard my posts as 'porkies' if that's what floats your boat. You'll be doing me a favour.

Well done....????

[Orton Rd]

23 minutes ago, shy coconut said:

What's wrong with free broadband? 

 

I'm not sure many expats would vote labour anyway if the more vocal members here

are a gauge.

It would not be 'free' it would cost billions, Thatcher was right, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money!

[DannyCarlton]

4 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

I will tell you what its due to ,in my old home town anyway ,waiting room full of people from foreign lands ,half cant speak English and all on social ,and voting labour ,lol

Do they speak Welsh and are they attracted to sheep or are they those Eastern European goatherds?

[UncleMhee]

10 hours ago, UncleMhee said:

15 hours ago, yogi100 said:

23 hours ago, emptypockets said:

In a previous post you stated you were in the UK. Which is the truth?

What previous post?

#55

Edited 9 hours ago by UncleMhee

Used in isolation it means not much more than your response at #137 i.e. whatever one wants it to mean; however using my entire quote and reply, tends to show someone may be being a little loose with the truth in regards the question asked by @emptypockets which you chose not to answer with a deflection by asking; "which post?" You then attempted to deflect again by cutting my post, either as humour or an attempt to humiliate. Tut tut!

I think that gives us all a reasonable answer on whether porkies were involved on where you may live; though of course no one is any the wiser as to where that actually may be. On that I couldn't care less, none of my business!

Edited November 17, 2019 by UncleMhee

[joecoolfrog]

19 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Yep. A tragedy that we have had a Tory government for the last 10 years. A totally different NHS before that.

I have had serious health issues for 20 years and have recieved excellent treatment from the NHS during the entire period.

I had a discussion on the topic last week with a group of friends ( mixed political leanings ) and the overwhelming concensus was that the NHS will never have adequate funding to compensate for growing expectations , an increasingly longer living population and technological inovation that has made once complicated surgery commonplace.

Weaponising the NHS is a old trick and no longer works , polls prove the point , time to find a new horse to flog Danny Boy.

[joecoolfrog]

19 hours ago, yogi100 said:

Google NHS hospital waiting lists.

 

Regardless of oaths the NHS claim It can take as long as two weeks for a patient to be seen by a specialist if a complaint is considered an emergency. That's if said patient has been referred by his General Practitioner. The fellow I referred to was no longer registered with a GP.

 

The NHS is widely regarded as being in a state of chaos especially in over crowded London where this unfortunate chap tried to get seen.

 

Hospital waiting times at worst-ever level - BBC News

 

3 days ago - Record numbers in England are on hospital waiting lists, while A&E ... NHS decisions are taken by the administrations in those parts of the UK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None of which would have prevented your friend from registering at a GP surgery after which he would have been refered to a consultant if necessary.

You really are something , often stating that ' foreigners ' stroll over to the UK and get benefits thrown at them , yet now insisting that your mate couldn't gain entry to a medical centre. . Doh !

Oh and incidently I live in a London borough so my experience is relevant.

Edited November 17, 2019 by joecoolfrog

[DannyCarlton]

4 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

I have had serious health issues for 20 years and have recieved excellent treatment from the NHS during the entire period.

I had a discussion on the topic last week with a group of friends ( mixed political leanings ) and the overwhelming concensus was that the NHS will never have adequate funding to compensate for growing expectations , an increasingly longer living population and technological inovation that has made once complicated surgery commonplace.

Weaponising the NHS is a old trick and no longer works , polls prove the point , time to find a new horse to flog Danny Boy.

I too have had several life threatening ilnesses ovver the last 15 years and have recieved life saving cutting edge treatment from the NHS. My wife has worked as a community mental health nurse for many years and before that as a general nurse. My daughter is the senior nursing sister in a busy A&E department and here husband is a doctor in A&E. Last year I attended their wedding and a large majority of the guests worked in the NHS. The best man was a GP.

 

15 years ago the NHS was the envy of the world with negligable waiting times and GP practices that provided a wide range of additional services to patients. In the last 10 years, all of this has been lost.

 

At the wedding there was a complete consensus on the reason for this, from a professor down to nursing assistants. Government cutbacks. No other reason. Your reasons don't explain in any way why the dramatic deterioation in NHS services over the last 10 years. Underfunding and bad management by the Tory government do.

 

Sorry it doesn't fit your right wing Tory agenda but it's time to face facts, not Tory spin.

 

 

[Rambo]

22 hours ago, Ajarnbrian said:

The writer is completely wrong to suggest there has been a cut in UK state pensions. It may be that an additional carers allowance has been cut for him, not the same thing. The post is unwarranted scaremongering.

The Department for Works & Pensions wrote to me on 14th October. In that letter they state : " Your Adult Dependency will end on 6th April 2020. This means that your State Pension will reduce."

[DannyCarlton]

4 minutes ago, Rambo said:

The Department for Works & Pensions wrote to me on 14th October. In that letter they state : " Your Adult Dependency will end on 6th April 2020. This means that your State Pension will reduce."

But for the vast majority not. Clickbait heading and errant scaremongering.

[Rambo]

20 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

No mention of up-rating ex pats pensions in all the election promises by any party that I have seen. Comrade Corbyn is promising to spend billions on free broadband though!

All the political parties in UK are making lots of promises for expenditure if elected. Not one mention anywhere about doing something about frozen pensions. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see proposals to improve pensions for all including those currently frozen. 

[steve187]

27 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

I too have had several life threatening ilnesses ovver the last 15 years and have recieved life saving cutting edge treatment from the NHS. My wife has worked as a community mental health nurse for many years and before that as a general nurse. My daughter is the senior nursing sister in a busy A&E department and here husband is a doctor in A&E. Last year I attended their wedding and a large majority of the guests worked in the NHS. The best man was a GP.

 

15 years ago the NHS was the envy of the world with negligable waiting times and GP practices that provided a wide range of additional services to patients. In the last 10 years, all of this has been lost.

 

At the wedding there was a complete consensus on the reason for this, from a professor down to nursing assistants. Government cutbacks. No other reason. Your reasons don't explain in any way why the dramatic deterioation in NHS services over the last 10 years. Underfunding and bad management by the Tory government do.

 

Sorry it doesn't fit your right wing Tory agenda but it's time to face facts, not Tory spin.

 

 

not just cutbacks, obesity and diseases more commonly associated with the Victorian era are increasing in the UK. also in the last 15 years there has been an influx of people who haven't had a good health care program before, TB is back in the UK, so is having to increasing the size of maternity units, to cope

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, steve187 said:

not just cutbacks, obesity and diseases more commonly associated with the Victorian era are increasing in the UK. also in the last 15 years there has been an influx of people who haven't had a good health care program before, TB is back in the UK, so is having to increasing the size of maternity units, to cope

Without cutbacks, all the above could have easily been absorbed by the NHS.

 

Keep sucking up the Tory propoganda.

[steve187]

3 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Without cutbacks, all the above could have easily been absorbed by the NHS.

 

Keep sucking up the Tory propoganda.

i believe what i read and observe, no sucking up to anyone, maybe you are easily lead

Edited November 18, 2019 by steve187

[ivor bigun]

2 hours ago, steve187 said:

i believe what i read and observe, no sucking up to anyone, maybe you are easily lead

very easily led. anyone who thinks The likes of MPs like Corbyn and Abbott the mathamatician,are going to save anything must be very easily led .

[billd766]

On 11/16/2019 at 7:18 PM, Jip99 said:

4/5 years ago Thai widows WERE eligible for the £2,000 Bereavement payment, plus payments for children under 18 (even if not fathered by the deceased Brit).

 

It stopped last April.

Bar stewards. Talk about the Grinch who stole Christmas.

[billd766]

18 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

It would not be 'free' it would cost billions, Thatcher was right, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money!

You are absolutely correct about it not being free. Somebody HAS to pay somewhere down the line, whether it is taxpayer paying more, or a government loan that will have to be repaid with interest, the taxpayer and their children once again, and this is only one item that the Labour party has in their manifesto.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain't_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch

 

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" (alternatively, "There is no such thing as a free lunch" or other variants) is a popular adage communicating the idea that it is impossible to get something for nothing. The acronyms TANSTAAFL, TINSTAAFL, and TNSTAAFL are also used. The phrase was in use by the 1930s, but its first appearance is unknown.[1] The "free lunch" in the saying refers to the 19th-century practice in American bars of offering a "free lunch" in order to entice drinking customers.

 

[yogi100]

7 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

None of which would have prevented your friend from registering at a GP surgery after which he would have been refered to a consultant if necessary.

You really are something , often stating that ' foreigners ' stroll over to the UK and get benefits thrown at them , yet now insisting that your mate couldn't gain entry to a medical centre. . Doh !

Oh and incidently I live in a London borough so my experience is relevant.

Let's keep things fact based. For a start the fellow I mentioned was not my 'friend' nor my 'mate'.

 

It's hard enough for an existing patient to get to see their GP in some instances let alone for an unregistered one. This fellow had no smart phone and if he did have one or a computer he would never have known how to turn it on making him unable to register or book an appointment on line.

 

"General Practice Waiting Times | GP Patient Survey 2019‎

‎25% of GP Patients Surveyed Couldn't Get An Appointment Until a Week or More Later. 

 

Over 30% of GPs said the average waiting time was between two and three weeks, with only 20% saying the average was less than a week. More than 22% of GPs said that the wait for a routine appointment was more than three weeks, while 6% said that it was longer than four weeks.12 Aug 2019"

 

Where have I stated that ' foreigners ' stroll over to the UK and get benefits thrown at them?

 

And how is the fact that you claim to have experience of living in a London borough relevant to the experiences of the fellow I mentioned when there are 32 London boroughs and around 9 million people living in them. 

 

Let's keep those aspects of the topic in the real world as well.

 

If you don't find my description of what happened to this fellow credible then that's your choice. If you wish in late January I will speak to someone who knew the man concerned better than I did and with his permission will PM you his phone number so you can ring him and he will fill you in on the full details. That's IF he wants and is able to speak with you.

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

I too have had several life threatening ilnesses ovver the last 15 years and have recieved life saving cutting edge treatment from the NHS. My wife has worked as a community mental health nurse for many years and before that as a general nurse. My daughter is the senior nursing sister in a busy A&E department and here husband is a doctor in A&E. Last year I attended their wedding and a large majority of the guests worked in the NHS. The best man was a GP.

 

15 years ago the NHS was the envy of the world with negligable waiting times and GP practices that provided a wide range of additional services to patients. In the last 10 years, all of this has been lost.

 

At the wedding there was a complete consensus on the reason for this, from a professor down to nursing assistants. Government cutbacks. No other reason. Your reasons don't explain in any way why the dramatic deterioation in NHS services over the last 10 years. Underfunding and bad management by the Tory government do.

 

Sorry it doesn't fit your right wing Tory agenda but it's time to face facts, not Tory spin.

 

 

If you follow my posts it is fairly obvious that I am not right wing , childish to put labels on those you disagree with.

 

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

Let's keep things fact based. For a start the fellow I mentioned was not my 'friend' nor my 'mate'.

 

It's hard enough for an existing patient to get to see their GP in some instances let alone for an unregistered one. This fellow had no smart phone and if he did have one or a computer he would never have known how to turn it on making him unable to register or book an appointment on line.

 

"General Practice Waiting Times | GP Patient Survey 2019‎

‎25% of GP Patients Surveyed Couldn't Get An Appointment Until a Week or More Later. 

 

Over 30% of GPs said the average waiting time was between two and three weeks, with only 20% saying the average was less than a week. More than 22% of GPs said that the wait for a routine appointment was more than three weeks, while 6% said that it was longer than four weeks.12 Aug 2019"

 

Where have I stated that ' foreigners ' stroll over to the UK and get benefits thrown at them?

 

And how is the fact that you claim to have experience of living in a London borough relevant to the experiences of the fellow I mentioned when there are 32 London boroughs and around 9 million people living in them. 

 

Let's keep those aspects of the topic in the real world as well.

 

If you don't find my description of what happened to this fellow credible then that's your choice. If you wish in late January I will speak to someone who knew the man concerned better than I did and with his permission will PM you his phone number so you can ring him and he will fill you in on the full details. That's IF he wants and is able to speak with you.

The facts as you state them are only credible if the person involved ,was for some reason , totally incapable of negotiating the system.

If he failed to do some very basic research before leaving Pattaya , or failed to get a friend to help him do so , then frankly he has nobody to blame than himself as the facts stand.

Do people fall through the cracks in the system , yes , just as no nothing tourists get ripped off daily in Thailand if they arrive totally ignorant and unprepared for what awaits them.

[Rambo]

23 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

But for the vast majority not. Clickbait heading and errant scaremongering.

How vast is the vast majority ? Be interesting to see how many are affected....

[sunnyboy2018]

On 11/16/2019 at 8:44 PM, yogi100 said:

The problem is many left nothing behind, they burned their bridges.

 

A fellow I knew returned to the UK with a cancer scare. He'd burned his bridges. He was 67.

 

He was sent to different hostels each day in London which he had to vacate each morning by 9am He was not allowed admittance again till 8pm that evening. He had to walk the streets each day time or sit in libraries, pubs and cafes.

 

He was offered no 'free' treatment, no housing nor welfare benefits. He was already in receipt of a state pension which he'd paid in for all his working life.

 

He went to a hospital and they told him to come back in 10 days time. It was in the middle of winter 2017. He despaired and returned to Pattaya. He slipped off the radar about 3 months later and no one in the UK nor Thailand has seen nor heard from him since. We believe he's now passed away.

The treatment he received was not much different to people who have not been away. He needed an address to get better help. He could get medical help at an AnE and a hospital bed, as required when one became available. He did get the pension he was owed but he WAS NOT OWED anything else. He was homeless so he got the same treatment as single homeless people get. This person did not just burn their bridges but apparently had not bothered to keep in contact with friends or family.

One reason i keep in contact with friends and family, keep a UK address and flat and return once a year is to avoid what happened to your friend happening to me. Its called forward planning

[nausea]

That's a hard hit to take mate - there's something called the fallacy of induction, just because something being going on OK for years, doesn't mean tomorrow it won't all change. Ask the Aztecs.