UK State pension reductions

[Pdavies99]

Sorry to let you know:

 

In a move that sees foreign national spouses stripped of their financial security, the British Government are now enforcing new pension rights in that they will no longer be entitled to the state pension rights that a wife or widow would have, were they to be a UK resident.

 

Until recently if a British national marries a non British National, she had the same rights to wife and widows pension as  her counterpart in the UK but she will now no longer be entitled to any benefits,  and many expats , who have paid UK Taxes all their lives before retiring to live outside the UK will be outraged to see their wives stripped of their future financial security.

 

The British Pensions Minister,  has already stated that “too many foreign people who have never set foot in Britain at all are receiving UK pensions.”

 

The move which  affects over  250,000 foreign national spouses and widows around the world  is an easy target for the ministry which has been tasked with reducing  costs.  However little thought has been  afforded to those women, many of whom are supporting the children of their  spouses and rely totally on their allowance to provide a living.

 

Whilst not affecting  those foreign wives residing in the UK (or UK born wives who have never worked in their lives) quite frankly, is seen as insulting by the thousands of British Expats who have worked and paid into the state pensions plan, only now to see the very benefits and future family security for which they worked, taken away.

 

The savings, in many cases just 13500 baht a month for a widow,  pale in comparison to the benefits paid to  immigrants who swarm into the country  and are repaid for their, often illegal, immigration with  free housing and funding.  Decades of benefit abuse by immigrants to Great Britain  amount to billions of pounds lost to the Government but are rarely addressed by governments as “human rights” laws are imposed despite the anger of the population there.

 

In Thailand,  powerless Expats can only sit back and wait to see the full effect of the changes but for widows here the hatchet cuts will, in many cases, be devastating as the pensions they receive will, in many cases, be their sole source of income.

 

 

[DannyCarlton]

Sorry to let you know but this is very old news. The agreement ended in 2010 for new claimants and was always due to cease in 2020 for all claimants.

 

Also, already a thread running on this.

[Number 6]

Appears to be a prudent move. The idea that just because you marry some wo/man thousands of miles from UK that upon your death she gets a windfall strikes me as absurd. You paid in. She paid nothing. She's never stepped foot in UK.

 

In US even if spouse is in country it's only after five years or something like that she can claim some benefit. If she's worked I think it's more and if she's fully vested 40Q of work at minimum rates I think she can get the full widow benefit which is still dependant upon your benefit.

 

What folly. Wife gets some windfall in Thailand. Maybe can't even speak a word of English.

 

Smart move.

[DannyCarlton]

21 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Appears to be a prudent move. The idea that just because you marry some wo/man thousands of miles from UK that upon your death she gets a windfall strikes me as absurd. You paid in. She paid nothing. She's never stepped foot in UK.

 

In US even if spouse is in country it's only after five years or something like that she can claim some benefit. If she's worked I think it's more and if she's fully vested 40Q of work at minimum rates I think she can get the full widow benefit which is still dependant upon your benefit.

 

What folly. Wife gets some windfall in Thailand. Maybe can't even speak a word of English.

 

Smart move.

Sorry to upset you but there are many women from South Asia, who were brought to the UK as child brides in arranged marriages, never bothered to learn a word of English, have milked the benefits system all their adult lives, never done a days work and have only contributed to the UK by breeding voraciously. These women are entitled to the full range of widows benefits and by golly will their families make sure that they get every penny that they are entitled to. I have met a number of them personally. Worse still, in breeding voraciously they have gone on to raise young British men such as those that carried out the London Tube bombings.

 

And you complain about a few Thai wives getting the benefit? At least they were married to indigenous Brits.

 

 

[evadgib]

9 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Sorry to upset you but there are many women from South Asia, who were brought to the UK as child brides in arranged marriages, never bothered to learn a word of English, have milked the benefits system all their adult lives, never done a days work and have only contributed to the UK by breeding voraciously. These women are entitled to the full range of widows benefits and by golly will their families make sure that they get every penny that they are entitled to. I have met a number of them personally. Worse still, in breeding voraciously they have gone on to raise young British men such as those that carried out the London Tube bombings.

 

And you complain about a few Thai wives getting the benefit? At least they were married to indigenous Brits.

As they allegedly lived in UK this particular rant appears off topic.

 

Several years ago DWP took the decision to limit pensions being paid to surviving spouses abroad because too many were 'on the payroll' for donkeys years as a result of the considerable age gap between claimant(s) and spouse.

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

As they allegedly lived in UK this particular rant appears off topic.

 

Several years ago DWP took the decision to limit pensions being paid to surviving spouses abroad because too many were 'on the payroll' for donkeys years as a result of the considerable age gap between claimant(s) and spouse.

No worries rant over (I'm surprised you didn't enjoy it 555).

 

It was one of the early acts that the Tories implemented when they came to power in 2010. Part of Cameron/Cleggs "stick it to Johnny Foreigner" campaign.

[Rimmer]

Not related to Pattaya and is already being discussed in the Home Country Forum HERE

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