5 hours ago, Thian said:

Yes, and i know people who got mental issues for the rest of their lives from it.

Correlation does not imply causation

6 hours ago, webfact said:

According to Manus, users of magic paper will experience dilated pupils, rises in body temperature, blood pressure and heart rate, loss of appetite, sweating and shaking. The drug will also cause hallucinations and paranoia, which could lead to self-harm or attacks on others and, in severe cases, suicide.

Exactly what I'm looking for ...????????

 

And/or read his book "How to change your mind".  Provides real food for thought.  (Even if that food is mushrooms).

6 hours ago, Thian said:

Yes, and i know people who got mental issues for the rest of their lives from it.

Sure you do.

 

And I know literally hundreds of people who had a great time, many times times over. 

 

But I also know folks who have drunk themselves int dementia. 

 

This is scaremongering, plain and simple

6 hours ago, webfact said:

a form of recreational drug called “magic paper” or “death stamp”, which is popular among foreign tourists.

Nonsense. It is not called death stamp by anyone.

 

As for popular amongst foreign tourists, it has been around for decades, they make it sound like a new recent danger. 

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

added that while there are as yet no reports of widespread use in Thailand, magic papers are occasionally found among foreign tourists visiting the country. “We do however feel it necessary to warn other parties and raise their level of understanding. Parents need not to be panic yet, but should keep a close eye on their children’s behavior,”

This too is ridiculous. I don't usually buy the anti foreigner hype but this is definitely pointing fingers. 

 

Need not panic - yet. 

 

Sigh

6 hours ago, fforest1 said:

Brilliant statement....Proof you know nothing about it...

 

I wont say there is absolutely zero danger but I will say there is 100% zero chance of developing a addiction to LSD......So compared to Meth or many other drugs its one of the least dangerous drugs around......Hell in some ways cigarettes are more dangerous because tobacco is highly addictive...    

Err have you been taking anti-irony meds? 

 

Actually, I do believe the man was serious. 

 

My apologies. There is always one who seems to have a strong option based without any real knowledge. 

Oh Dr. Hofmann, you opened so many doors.....

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, metempsychotic said:

Err have you been taking anti-irony meds? 

 

Actually, I do believe the man was serious. 

 

My apologies. There is always one who seems to have a strong option based without any real knowledge. 

Hell in some ways cigarettes are

 

I guess you missed the part where I said IN SOME WAYS....

 

sorry but I know plenty about this subject...

5 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

Hell in some ways cigarettes are

 

I guess you missed the part where I said IN SOME WAYS....

 

sorry but I know plenty about this subject...

And I corrected myself when I realized the person you were quoting was serious. 

 

Then I apologised and made yet another reference to the person you were quoting. 

 

Perhaps re read my post. 

It didn't seem to do much harm in the 60's & 70's.

 

I wouldn't recommend riding around in traffic on a motorcycle after it has been ingested though.

My wife and I did lsd on three occasions shortly after we were married.  This was in the very early 70s.  There was no one else with us, but the friend who gave it to us said we only needed to know one thing:  that whatever was going on, remember it was only the drug.  It was good, helpful advice as the world turned astonishing.  We had no problems.  It revealed a plethora of new perspectives to us and almost a half century later remains a personally memorable event, a fond one.  We are glad to have been able to have the experience.

You want to see pretty colours and be Alice in Wonderland, take LSD; you want to get into a fight, drink alcohol; you want to die early, smoke cigarettes; you want to work hard, chew kratom. These guys need to get their priorities sorted. Some stuff is just recreational, some stuff is useful (coffee springs to mind), and some stuff is just dangerous. They're supposed to be experts, right?

10 hours ago, nikmar said:

yep , some strange and some  good memories. A group of us tried playing football one sunny afternoon whilst tripping. I dont htink i ve ever laughed so much.

One time I laughed for like 5 hours ????  boy was I sore the next day

Wait!  What year is this?  Parents, if your teenager says their forK is melting at the dinner table, or that the wall just turned to sand, or you just turned into a cartoon, then spend some time with them, maybe you will learn something.  Whatever you do, stay away from the foreigners ????

"According to Manus, users of magic paper will experience dilated pupils, rises in body temperature, blood pressure and heart rate, loss of appetite, sweating and shaking. The drug will also cause hallucinations and paranoia, which could lead to self-harm or attacks on others and, in severe cases, suicide. "

But does it have negative side effects?

(Thank you Ali G)

1 hour ago, oobar said:

My wife and I did lsd on three occasions shortly after we were married.  This was in the very early 70s.  There was no one else with us, but the friend who gave it to us said we only needed to know one thing:  that whatever was going on, remember it was only the drug.  It was good, helpful advice as the world turned astonishing.  We had no problems.  It revealed a plethora of new perspectives to us and almost a half century later remains a personally memorable event, a fond one.  We are glad to have been able to have the experience.

Absolutely. My first trip was German Blue Cheer, then various types....does anyone remember micrdots?..The best I had was clear 'window pane'. Perhaps the most important event in my life. As a rule I have no interest in people who have  not experimented with mind expanding drugs.

10 hours ago, Vacuum said:

Have you tried it? I haven't, too old now, but I'm sure I've missed some experience..

You are never too old for good acid.

11 hours ago, Thian said:

LSD is very dangerous.....i hope they can stop it.

Very dangerous indeed... 

 

11 hours ago, Thian said:

LSD is very dangerous.....i hope they can stop it.

Stop it? Its been popular since Ken Kesey and Timothy Leary promoted it in the 60s. Its not gone away and it never will go away. Only with acid can ordinary people become one with the universal godhead and understand we are all molecules of the universe in a state of permanent evolution towards cosmic love.

58 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Stop it? Its been popular since Ken Kesey and Timothy Leary promoted it in the 60s. Its not gone away and it never will go away. Only with acid can ordinary people become one with the universal godhead and understand we are all molecules of the universe in a state of permanent evolution towards cosmic love.

While in prison, Leary was sued by the parents of Vernon Powell Cox, who had jumped from a third story window of a Berkeley apartment while under the influence of LSD. Cox had taken the drug after attending a lecture, given by Leary, favoring LSD use. Leary was unable to be present due to his incarceration, and unable to arrange for legal representation; a default judgement was entered against him in the amount of $100,000.^[115]

Nice to know that, thanks.

12 hours ago, Yadon Toploy said:

I had some great trips and some bad ones when I was younger. All part of life's experience.

CIA did many test subjects , I’m sure on YouTube 

12 hours ago, neeray said:

I am so happy that I led such a boring life.

 

Well, not that boring, sex was always my preferred drug, still is.

Still an addiction 

1 hour ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Absolutely. My first trip was German Blue Cheer, then various types....does anyone remember micrdots?..The best I had was clear 'window pane'. Perhaps the most important event in my life. As a rule I have no interest in people who have  not experimented with mind expanding drugs.

Purple Microdot , Windowpane, Orange Sunshine , MDMA later, we called Magic Paper Blotter , and onecalled Old Fashioned , blotter with a huge dose on it...

12 hours ago, nikmar said:

ever tried sex whilst tripping???? oh man.

No, I have obviously never tried. Frankly, I couldn't handle anymore pleasure. "Oh natural" is 100% satisfying for me.

 

Did Thailand really just get LSD? Wow.  Practically lived on that stuff for years when I was younger. Good times.
 

Will keep my eyes open for it now. Thanks!

33 minutes ago, neeray said:

No, I have obviously never tried. Frankly, I couldn't handle anymore pleasure. "Oh natural" is 100% satisfying for me.

Honestly, missed out. As if sex can’t get better, LSD takes it from what’s already a 100 and cranks it up to about a 500.

13 hours ago, Thian said:

Yes, and i know people who got mental issues for the rest of their lives from it.

I don’t believe this. Not unless they already had something wrong with them. 

10 hours ago, dcnx said:

I don’t believe this. Not unless they already had something wrong with them. 

So lucky that Thailand doesn't have people who already have something wrong with them...????

The highest level of corporate types are microdosing weekly to improve their creativity. As did LSD's creator, Albert Hofmann, every week until it killed him...at age 102! He called it his "brain vitamin".

 

(Somebody should spike the coffee at govt ministries!)