Police shoot dead man who killed two in London stabbing, call it terrorist attack

[Kinnock]

5 hours ago, car720 said:

Copper double tapped him in plain sight.  Shows the feeling of the Brits at the moment.  Good show old boy.

I'd guess standard procedure for anyone wearing what looks like a suicide bomb - and a wise policy too from a public safety point of view.

 

And so impressed by the unarmed members of the public who tackled him.

 

But two dead is too high a price for allowing unwise freedom to known terrorists. 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We’ve seen enough examples here on TVF of the usual suspects triggered by news of an ‘attack’ into Islamophobic rants only to learn a few hours later that the attack/attacker had nothing to do with Islam.

 

Terrorism is effective because of the fear and division it spreads, it is wise not to give the terrorists a helping hand by spreading fear and division on their behalf.

 

It’s also wise to hold comments and accusations until the facts are known.

The facts were established well enough when you wrote this denial.

[BobBKK]

I was so pleased this scum was shot dead. I get very bemused at how many scum kill others then walk away smiling to a comfy cell. I say if they have a knife or weapon shoot to kill. 

[Orton Rd]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes this man was a known threat, and there are at least 20,000 fewer police officers than there should be.

 

Not hard to figure why a known threat was left to escalate into an attack.

 

I don’t think I need to post the video of Theresa May being warned of the consequences of her cuts to the police force.

Nothing to do with Police officers on the street , he was arrested by special branch and given a minimum of 8 years in 2012 for plotting bamb attacks. Not the cops who let him out before that to murder was it, or lack of them.

Edited November 30, 2019 by Orton Rd

[BobBKK]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We all are.

 

Especially those promoting distrust of whole communities based on the actions of a tiny minority.

The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists but the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims and that is a fact. 

[Orton Rd]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists but the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims and that is a fact. 

The reason being their prophet stated he was made victorious by terror and several commands in the Quran to wage jihad, and that did not mean spiritual struggle before the apologists pipe up. It has to be remembered people like this dead jihadist WANT to die in jihad attacks because they believe it wipes away all sins and is a fast track to paradise.

[ivor bigun]

3 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

They work on dealing with other crimes, which now stand at levels higher than any time since the Tories took power in 2010.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate/

Yes because Tony Blair let them all in and the Tories have had to deal with it ever since .

[simple1]

28 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Show the stats and source please.

The latest stats for the UK regards right wing extremism are available below. The member you responded to was in fact referring to the USA.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/19/fastest-growing-uk-terrorist-threat-is-from-far-right-say-police

[Opl]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We all are.

 

Especially those promoting distrust of whole communities based on the actions of a tiny minority.

A "tiny minority" and it's entourage, be it neighborhood, family and friends, complicit of tolerance. Millions of Muslims live in and benefit of our western non-muslim countries, and the real danger comes from islamophobia?    

[Chazar]

6 hours ago, neeray said:

"Police shoot dead man ...."

Geez .... This sounds even worse than things that happen in Thailand!

If the man was already dead, why shoot dead man?

 

Best to make  sure

[roo860]

My own personal view is that all police in the UK should be armed, long over due.

[ivor bigun]

20 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

The reason being their prophet stated he was made victorious by terror and several commands in the Quran to wage jihad, and that did not mean spiritual struggle before the apologists pipe up. It has to be remembered people like this dead jihadist WANT to die in jihad attacks because they believe it wipes away all sins and is a fast track to paradise.

There are 3 religions that believe in one God

the Jews,they invented him ,they are still waiting for the Prophet ,very rarely do we see any terrorist acts

Christians they have Jesus who preached peace and goodwill to your fellow man ,again not a great deal of terrorist acts

 

Muslim they have Muhammed ,a divorced man who became a warlord ,killed all in his path ,preached that there must be complete submision to the faith and married a 6 year old girl.

well you read what their faith does around the world .and so many of its followers ,seem to be not very good people .

[car720]

52 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

I'd guess standard procedure for anyone wearing what looks like a suicide bomb - and a wise policy too from a public safety point of view.

 

And so impressed by the unarmed members of the public who tackled him.

 

But two dead is too high a price for allowing unwise freedom to known terrorists. 

Amen

[cyril sneer]

46 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists but the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims and that is a fact. 

the vast majority of Muslims support terrorism against infidels and that is a fact

[Becker]

37 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

the vast majority of Muslims support terrorism against infidels and that is a fact

I'm sure you can support that claim with links to credible sources. I shall hold my breath in eager anticipation of your reply!

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

I'm sure you can support that claim with links to credible sources. I shall hold my breath in eager anticipation of your reply!

a few thousand dead innocents in the last few years is a fairly convincing argument for the posters viewpoint. 

[Becker]

26 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

a few thousand dead innocents in the last few years is a fairly convincing argument for the posters viewpoint. 

No, it isn't.

Edited November 30, 2019 by Becker

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

The latest stats for the UK regards right wing extremism are available below. The member you responded to was in fact referring to the USA.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/19/fastest-growing-uk-terrorist-threat-is-from-far-right-say-police

USA not in topic. The Guardian story is just that ... and fastest growing does not mean greatest existing.

[cyril sneer]

that guardian article ????

[Mick501]

Just one of 30 to 40 daily terrorist attacks committed by Muslims in the name of their god.  What does that number have to be before it is acknowledged there are some critical flaws at the very core of this religions teachings?

[Andrew65]

5 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

They work on dealing with other crimes, which now stand at levels higher than any time since the Tories took power in 2010.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate/

Just don't call 'em if your house has been burgled.

[ivor bigun]

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

that guardian article ????

So few people read it they have to beg for money off them

[ivor bigun]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

The latest stats for the UK regards right wing extremism are available below. The member you responded to was in fact referring to the USA.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/19/fastest-growing-uk-terrorist-threat-is-from-far-right-say-police

Now please tell us how many of these groups have strapped on a suicide vest and killed people ,lets say just in the UK 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

Just seen the video, great to see

 

Another defeat for the left

Absolutely nothing to do wit ‘The Left’.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

The facts were established well enough when you wrote this denial.

Except, that wasn’t a denial.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists but the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims and that is a fact. 

I think you’ll find the vast majority of terrorists who have killed or injured people and n the UK are Irish.

 

 

[UncleFesterNightmare]

16 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Now please tell us how many of these groups have strapped on a suicide vest and killed people ,lets say just in the UK 

Must be conservatives.  We all know that this is an established habit.

[UncleFesterNightmare]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think you’ll find the vast majority of terrorists who have killed or injured people and n the UK are Irish.

 

 

2019? Surely, you will post a footnote so that we may all see from where this "factoid" comes from, eh? I think I have read about Irish bombings in London ... or did I?

Edited November 30, 2019 by UncleFesterNightmare

[DannyCarlton]

7 hours ago, BJM1950 said:

Quite right! It's a waste of a shot! Are you going to make him 'more dead?

Police shot a man dead??

I watched the video. Clearly a professional execution. Best for everyone concerned.

[nausea]

The most encouraging thing to come out of this is how people reacted, they didn't all just run away in fear. I've always thought a kind of mob zombie response to these kind of incidents would do a lot to discourage them. Obviously, the police killed him cos he was wearing a (fake) suicide vest. What do you expect them to do, wait for the bomb disposal squad to arrive.