Just an observation that it is a refreshing change to see 2 headline posts side by side about Thailand doing something positive about the use  of plastics.

 

Certainly makes better reading than the "news" about the constant posts about Immigration "witch hunts" on people with a few days overstay!  

Plastic or no Plastic the Witch Hunts will continue as the Xenophobia rating just keeps rising.   Apart from that we are just much easier targets than rich people who kill Policemen or commit really serious crimes !

I'll believe it when I see it. Every week I get into a rant with the 7-11 staff who always try to double-bag my groceries.  Most recently the young angel wouldn't listen so I took the bag out of her hands and shook it up and down. She pointed to a small hole at the bottom, and I shook it up and down again to show that the small hole stayed that way. It didn't stop  until an older staff member came up and bopped her on the head (jokingly) and explained why.

2 minutes ago, scoutman360 said:

I'll believe it when I see it. Every week I get into a rant with the 7-11 staff who always try to double-bag my groceries.  Most recently the young angel wouldn't listen so I took the bag out of her hands and shook it up and down. She pointed to a small hole at the bottom, and I shook it up and down again to show that the small hole stayed that way. It didn't stop  until an older staff member came up and bopped her on the head (jokingly) and explained why.

and the PunchLine is:    it was a balloon ???? 

Now a smart Thai would now sit outside 7/11 selling bags at 1 baht a pop

There's a new campaign where I live (no joke). They should probably write it in Thai.

14 hours ago, scoutman360 said:

I'll believe it when I see it. Every week I get into a rant with the 7-11 staff who always try to double-bag my groceries.

I would say there is some improvement. The 7-11 staff understand "mai au thung" ("no take bag" in proper English) and recently some of them even started thanking me for having my own bag.

The Baht's predicted to continue strengthening well into 2020, in spite of Praytut's pleas for somebody to do something to make it stop. What new era?

20 hours ago, sambum said:

Just an observation that it is a refreshing change to see 2 headline posts side by side about Thailand doing something positive about the use  of plastics.

As much as I am all for no plastic bags, we don't breath it in, so I would be extremely happen when I read a headline saying, no more burning, or life in prison, that's because the smoke season is about to begin, and I don't appreciate breathing in the smoke, yes, yes, I know I have choices, plan B & C are in place, but one can hope, but I won't hold my breath ????

 

If you had described your thread better with a more descriptive title telling us what exactly your thread is about, I.e plastic bags, then I wouldn’t have clicked on it.

They might be able to combine the two subjects, by rejecting every westerner with any plastic in their belongings ... wily Thai thinking!

4 hours ago, Guderian said:

The Baht's predicted to continue strengthening well into 2020, in spite of Praytut's pleas for somebody to do something to make it stop. What new era?

That's why I put the question mark after the comment!!!

 

Seriously - the era of awareness? Many shop staff (as pointed out above) are now asking if you want a  bag, and thanking you when you say no. And it's not just 711 - I first noticed it months ago in nearly all pharmacies, and Tsco Lotus are now packing shopping in paper bags.

 

However, I think that one problem will arise when people get hit by a sudden downpour, and their paper bags disintegrate and dump their shopping over the road/pavement. (OK - before someone gets in first -  get a a canvas bag!)

1 hour ago, NightSky said:

If you had described your thread better with a more descriptive title telling us what exactly your thread is about, I.e plastic bags, then I wouldn’t have clicked on it.

So you have no concerns about the damage that plastic bags do?

And when you clicked on it, it should have been apparent what the post was about! 

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by sambum

I need plastic bags, but do not need to overstay. 

Simply as that. 

Interesting TOPS in Chiang Rai has shut down on plastic bags, offering cloth bags at 19 baht instead. Whereas Rimping in Chiang Mai has Wednesday as plastic bag-free, open slather every other day.

Cart full of groceries. The cashier pointed to a sign that said "no bag day."

 

To which I replied..... "I also have a rule, - no money day."

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by DaRoadrunner

As long as they will charge Thais money for each new grocery bag than out of nowhere they will become best bag recyclers in the world !

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

As much as I am all for no plastic bags, we don't breath it in, so I would be extremely happen when I read a headline saying, no more burning, or life in prison, that's because the smoke season is about to begin, and I don't appreciate breathing in the smoke, yes, yes, I know I have choices, plan B & C are in place, but one can hope, but I won't hold my breath ????

 

I'm guessing that holding your breath thing was plan D ?  If so, you are right in discarding that plan D; didn't work for me. ????

Plastic is used in nearly everything today. Vehicles, computers, cooking appliances, food packages, drinks, etc... the list is inexhaustible yet we are supposed to believe that banning plastic shopping bags is going to make the difference. The Facts don't add up!

Stop drinking the Koolaid!

On 12/4/2019 at 10:41 AM, 4MyEgo said:

As much as I am all for no plastic bags, we don't breath it in, so I would be extremely happen when I read a headline saying, no more burning, or life in prison, that's because the smoke season is about to begin, and I don't appreciate breathing in the smoke, yes, yes, I know I have choices, plan B & C are in place, but one can hope, but I won't hold my breath ????

 

Wrong! Micro particles are breathed in and digested. They found those even in the most isolated areas of the planet. Pyrenees etc, miles from houses and people. It doesn't degrade quickly - and local morons love to burn it, releasing /dioxin, one of the strongest poisons known to man

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1 hour ago, Kf6vci said:

Wrong! Micro particles are breathed in and digested

So what? Do you have some evidence that this is in some way a problem?

Every couple of months these headlines are popping up but nothing changes....

13 hours ago, sstuff3 said:

Plastic is used in nearly everything today. Vehicles, computers, cooking appliances, food packages, drinks, etc... the list is inexhaustible yet we are supposed to believe that banning plastic shopping bags is going to make the difference. The Facts don't add up!

Stop drinking the Koolaid!

I think that the area of concern is the amount of plastic that ends up in the sea, or in garbage dumps where it can cause water to run off into the surrounding areas and end up polluting the very soil where crops are grown.

Of course plastic is used in many things today, but I don't think that the plastic from obsolete computers or vehicle car seat covers is the problem!

On 12/3/2019 at 7:10 PM, scoutman360 said:

I'll believe it when I see it. Every week I get into a rant with the 7-11 staff who always try to double-bag my groceries.  Most recently the young angel wouldn't listen so I took the bag out of her hands and shook it up and down. She pointed to a small hole at the bottom, and I shook it up and down again to show that the small hole stayed that way. It didn't stop  until an older staff member came up and bopped her on the head (jokingly) and explained why.

why wouldn't you just bring your own bag?

 

I have every confidence major shops (7eleven, Tesco) will contibue the war on plastic and smaller shops will follow suit.

 

If for no other reason than it saves money. Why give a plastic bag to a customer if everyone else isn't?

 

I bet the big hitters are rubbing their hands in delight at the millions they will save.

 

Ultimately it is good. 

On ‎12‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 2:30 PM, sambum said:

However, I think that one problem will arise when people get hit by a sudden downpour, and their paper bags disintegrate and dump their shopping over the road/pavement. (OK - before someone gets in first -  get a a canvas bag!)

 

I grew up in a generation that didn't have plastic bags. Paper worked just fine. No handles on the bags, we carried them with both hands. I don't recall anyone complaining.

I saw some recent documentaries on TV saying that plastic is now in everything seafood we eat. We are ingesting it.

 

I also saw another TV show saying that 80% of the recycled items we segregate every week for trash pickup (in the U.S.) is not recycled. It is sold overseas by distributors who eventually dump it.

 

45 minutes ago, scoutman360 said:

 

I grew up in a generation that didn't have plastic bags. Paper worked just fine. No handles on the bags, we carried them with both hands. I don't recall anyone complaining.

Bit difficult to carry a bag with no handles on a motor bike - which is probably the most used form of transport in Thailand!

10 minutes ago, sambum said:

Bit difficult to carry a bag with no handles on a motor bike - which is probably the most used form of transport in Thailand!

The space. under  the seat works quite well for this. Or get a back rack for your bags like everyone else.

>80% of the recycled items we segregate every week for trash pickup (in the U.S.) is not recycled. It is sold overseas by distributors who eventually dump it.

 

Its true, almost all plastic that we put in recycling boxes is burnt, dumped or disappears. Little is recycled. 

It is much better to incinerate this and turn it into electricity but that's not trendy or nice - which is what much of the environmental fraud industry goes on.