4 hours ago, stephenterry said:

This is what brexit would do, Bill.

Not correct Steven.

 

This is what Labour under Corbyn wants to do. Nothing to with Leave or Remain and Brexit.

48 minutes ago, transam said:

MP's get a very nice daily food allowance, they can spend it on what they like, but leftist like to wallow in the mire to detract from the important stuff....????

This wasn't actually the principle point of my post, more an adjunct to highlight the utter lack of human decency within the man. I actually thought that the point I was trying to make would be obvious to most people with half an ounce of sense. I still believe that to be the case.

56 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Labour took us into the illegal Iraq war with GW Bush, at an official cost of 20 Billion (in reality much more) and hundreds of thousands of innocent lives taken, leading to the expansion of ISIS and years of instability in the Middle East.

Are you seriously suggesting that Blair's illegal war absolves the Tories of any moral culpability for all those who have died as a direct result of their idoelogical obsession with the transferring of wealth from the many to the few?

 

58 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

And you're worried about a 35 quid breakfast? ????

Is that really the best come back you have, or are you simply incapable of understanding the point I made?

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

This wasn't actually the principle point of my post, more an adjunct to highlight the utter lack of human decency within the man. I actually thought that the point I was trying to make would be obvious to most people with half an ounce of sense. I still believe that to be the case.

The cost of a guys breakfast..........Good grief.....Have you checked how many miles to the gallon his car uses, or whether he pays a guy to mow his lawn...????

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Ian Duncan Smith, a man so arrogantly self entitled

he couldn't be more arrogant then BJ, could he?  555

25 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Not correct Steven.

 

This is what Labour under Corbyn wants to do. Nothing to with Leave or Remain and Brexit.

It's our children and grandchildren paying for brexit

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

he couldn't be more arrogant then BJ, could he?  555

Well, they are both devoid of any semblance of decency, but at least Johnson has a degree of charisma about him. Duncan Smith contributes absolutely nothing of value to the world in any way whatsoever; in fact, he is a net drain on humanity's lot. 

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Well, they are both devoid of any semblance of decency, but at least Johnson has a degree of charisma about him. Duncan Smith contributes absolutely nothing of value to the world in any way whatsoever; in fact, he is a net drain on humanity's lot. 

In your opinion he is as useless as Corbyn then...?

8 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Well, they are both devoid of any semblance of decency, but at least Johnson has a degree of charisma about him. Duncan Smith contributes absolutely nothing of value to the world in any way whatsoever; in fact, he is a net drain on humanity's lot. 

You're aware he was in the Scots guards? (????)

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

You're aware he was in the Scots guards? (????)

Blair, Brown, Gove, Swinson etc - I am afraid Scotland has spawned many less than admirable politicians. 

20 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Well obviously if Labour had a massive majority with Corbyn as leader, then Yes that would be very damaging for the UK given Corbyn's communist leanings. 

 

Fortunately the electorate knows exactly what a threat Corbyn is to the country so Labour will be massacred at the election on Thursday and won't have the numbers to do very much at all. He'll probably be gone by New Year.

He won't last till the weekend if he loses again.

On 12/11/2019 at 6:39 AM, z42 said:

What kind of person would vote for more Tory blundering? Surely almost a decade has been ghastly enough.

These establishment parties are truly nauseating ????

Either choice is nauseating. Hard to say which is worse. It's hard to imagine two people so unsuited to be leaders. They're both human scum. Very sad for the UK.

4 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

Either choice is nauseating. Hard to say which is worse. It's hard to imagine two people so unsuited to be leaders. They're both human scum. Very sad for the UK.

"It's hard to imagine two people so unsuited to be leaders."

 

It's easy.................Juncker and Tusk.

18 hours ago, billd766 said:

Also expect the nation debt (that will put taxpayers in debt for their childrens and perhaps grandchildrens lifetime.

Brexit has already seen to that Bill, the cost was conveniently left out of the manifesto.

It is a sad state of affairs when the electorate have to choose the lesser of 2 evils.

Unfortunately the majority of Joe Public see it as a choice between Labour and Conservative when in fact the real choice is between EU alignment or subversive US policy.

22 minutes ago, vogie said:

"It's hard to imagine two people so unsuited to be leaders."

 

It's easy.................Juncker and Tusk.

 

Well, while we're at it: why not Biden and Harris; Warren and Buttman; etc. etc  (Surely we can all come up with some glorious pairs?)

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

Are you seriously suggesting that Blair's illegal war absolves the Tories of any moral culpability for all those who have died as a direct result of their idoelogical obsession with the transferring of wealth from the many to the few?

 

Is that really the best come back you have, or are you simply incapable of understanding the point I made?

What I'm suggesting is that the real choice on who to elect is between the Tories and Labour. Last time I voted Labour they went to war in Iraq killing hundreds of thousands of people. That doesn't sit well with me.

 

Even if your statement regarding Tories "ideology" being to transfer wealth from rich to poor was true (which it isn't) it still wouldn't be as bad as teaming up with the US to barbarically kill innocent people for oil on the back of a lie about WMD, which is what Blair did.

 

I detest big government, I don't believe socialism works and I have nothing but contempt for trying to weasle out of Brexit so the choice to avoid Labour is an easy one. That doesn't mean I love every Tory policy (far from it) but I'd rather live under a Tory government than a communist state led by an Anti-Semitic Hezbollah supporting Marxist who is backed up by the likes of Abbot, McDonnell, Thornberry etc.

 

Hope that clears things up.

 

 

4 hours ago, stephenterry said:

It's our children and grandchildren paying for brexit

Much like it was me and my son along with millions of others who were paying the price for being a member" of the EU.

 

I will also be paying a bit for Brexit as long as I live, as I still pay income tax in the UK.

 

A bit like the UK in that we both paid in and got less out of it.

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Brexit has already seen to that Bill, the cost was conveniently left out of the manifesto.

It is a sad state of affairs when the electorate have to choose the lesser of 2 evils.

Unfortunately the majority of Joe Public see it as a choice between Labour and Conservative when in fact the real choice is between EU alignment or subversive US policy.

 

A bit like the EU as the cost for that was also conveniently left out of the manifesto back in the 1970s when we joined the EEC. That WAS worth being a member of but since the EEC morphed into the EU it is not such a nice place to be.

 

The rest I agree with whole heartedly.

3 hours ago, blazes said:

 

Well, while we're at it: why not Biden and Harris; Warren and Buttman; etc. etc  (Surely we can all come up with some glorious pairs?)

Blair and Brown, closer to home.

11 hours ago, luckyluke said:

^

An iconic picture:

 

"French civilian weeps as Nazi troops occupy Paris." 

 

Other historical pictures can be found at :

 

"Important Pictures Throughout History" 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Got short memories the french.

59 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

A bit like the EU as the cost for that was also conveniently left out of the manifesto back in the 1970s when we joined the EEC. That WAS worth being a member of but since the EEC morphed into the EU it is not such a nice place to be.

 

The rest I agree with whole heartedly.

 

since you are mentioning "left out"

 

while slamming EU and their redtapers,

do not leave out that the morphing has been YES'ed by the UK

 

40 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Got short memories the french.

They have a selective memory. 

They all remember the Battle of Hastings. 

Let it happen!

 

Italy, Greece, Spain, France ... it's over.

 

 

31 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

since you are mentioning "left out"

 

while slamming EU and their redtapers,

do not leave out that the morphing has been YES'ed by the UK

 

 

You are correct BUT the morphing was done by governments and not by the will of the people, hence Brexit.

 

This was brought about by David Cameron who worried that UKIP would ask people if they wanted to Leave or Remain in the EU. The referendum was sloppily put together because Cameron in his arrogance thought that it would be a slam dunk victory for him.

 

That it wasn't proved that more people wanted to Leave than Remain and that a large portion of the electorate didn't care enough to vote.

 

It will be very interesting to see who is left and who is new and who has an overall majority, slight majority, no majority, who will want to be partners with whom, when the final election results come in, probably on Friday for the last ones.

 

I make no predictions at all.

14 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

You are correct BUT the morphing was done by governments and not by the will of the people, hence Brexit.

 

This was brought about by David Cameron who worried that UKIP would ask people if they wanted to Leave or Remain in the EU. The referendum was sloppily put together because Cameron in his arrogance thought that it would be a slam dunk victory for him.

 

That it wasn't proved that more people wanted to Leave than Remain and that a large portion of the electorate didn't care enough to vote.

 

It will be very interesting to see who is left and who is new and who has an overall majority, slight majority, no majority, who will want to be partners with whom, when the final election results come in, probably on Friday for the last ones.

 

I make no predictions at all.

 

will be interesting to see the level of participation in the voting

larger than before or smaller?

 

Brexit has got heaps of publicity now over the past 3+ years

it is an important election (as all elections are) even though it is not really about Brexit

 

larger than before because of the importance?

smaller than before because the electorate is urinated off?

 

we'll see

 

52 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

They have a selective memory. 

They all remember the Battle of Hastings. 

 

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

Got short memories the french.

Are you chaps claiming delineation that predates the Normans?  Impressive indeed.

7 minutes ago, Slip said:

 

Are you chaps... 

I 'm not French. 

 

 

18 hours ago, JonnyF said:

What I'm suggesting is that the real choice on who to elect is between the Tories and Labour. Last time I voted Labour they went to war in Iraq killing hundreds of thousands of people. That doesn't sit well with me.

 

Exactly, Blair got int bed with Bush and fell foul of subversive US policy and the Labour party has paid the price.

Bojo on the other hand has not learned from Blair's mistake and cannot wait to get into bed with Trump, this time round the price will be felt in the pocket of the population rather than conscience. A bleak future for the UK.