Dcheech Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Good deflection form the ongoing Impeachment hearings. Yet if you look at the iranians and their militias, they assumed they could do these things and then US would respond in careful gradual steps of escalation. Not with this POTUS. After the tit for tat, with airfield rocketing, militia camp bombings, then the embassy flash mob triggered something in Donny. Unfortunately it's a whole new world. If a bunch of refineries get smoked, if oil production worldwide goes down, the US is not going to be bothered by that like it would have in the past. Now that is something disturbing to think about. heh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Putting aside that supporting Trump and being a patriot are not mutually inclusive, I’m not sure where you get the idea that the ‘overwhelming majority of [armed forces] love Trump’. Go to a military base in the USA or anywhere in the world and you will see yourself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Hmmmm. Impeachment hearings set, election this year. Let's play the nationalist/obfuscation card by setting up an enemy and a fight. The electorate are lambs to the slaughter once again. Twenthieth century politics is sadly alive and well in the 21st. Trump for another term is more of a reality each day. Sadly real people are going to pay with their lives for this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, MRToMRT said: Hmmmm. Impeachment hearings set, election this year. Let's play the nationalist/obfuscation card by setting up an enemy and a fight. The electorate are lambs to the slaughter once again. Twenthieth century politics is sadly alive and well in the 21st. Trump for another term is more of a reality each day. Sadly real people are going to pay with their lives for this. It's nice to see libs coming out of denial. For what it is worth this was a good kill. Trump was very restrained. He didn't sink their navy when they hit a drone, the oil fields, the shipping tankers. However when they killed an American he killed a big target. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Cryingdick said: Right because this has been a wonderful thing for the markets as I type this right before trading the opening bell on Friday morning. Although it makes it nice for trading. Did you look before you posted LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Did you look before you posted LOL I was being sarcastic. Go back and look at the post that says Trump only cares about the markets. My response is he did this knowing markets would tank. However some good trades today in cyber security. Defense did well but cyber security was a great play so I am happy. The markets finished down less than a percent and that little decline was actually healthy as things are trading at historic multiples. Today was a day to buy and trade. When I made the comment at the opening bell things were down twice the amount at which the closed. The market simply shrugged. Edited January 4, 2020 by Cryingdick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Cryingdick said: No. If it was football the quarterback was taken out. The linebackers and the kicker is still around. Sorry I awoke this morning thinking "next man up" and you post the same football analogy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MRToMRT Posted January 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Cryingdick said: You are safe in Thailand. You aren't going over there to fight either. As far as the armed forces go the overwhelming majority of them are patriots that love Trump. Can't you all just stay in America and worship Trump the Great at your leisure in your own backyards rather than trying to remake the world in your own image? How many innocents have already died in Iraq because your administration's narratives/lies? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said: Sorry I awoke this morning thinking "next man up" and you post the same football analogy. Well somebody in Iran had better watch his P's and Q's you can't hide anywhere these days. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up in Pattaya soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, MRToMRT said: Can't you all just stay in America and worship Trump the Great at your leisure in your own backyards rather than trying to remake the world in your own image? How many innocents have already died in Iraq because your administration's narratives/lies? Ask Obama who used drones more than anybody in history. This was a good kill. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Fact is something that you refuse to acknowledge. Well here is a fact you better before the body bags start getting filled. 42 million Iranians have served their mandatory 2 years in their military and can be recalled to active duty within 48 hours in a modernized mountainous country 3/4 the size of India who is allies with both Russia and China being resupplied indefinitely. A war with Iran will make Viet Nam look like a Folk Dance. REPOSTING Edited January 4, 2020 by Rimmer Inflammatory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Fact is something that you refuse to acknowledge. Well here is a fact you better before the body bags start getting filled. 42 million Iranians have served their mandatory 2 years in their military and can be recalled to active duty within 48 hours in a modernized mountainous country 3/4 the size of India who is allies with both Russia and China being resupplied indefinitely. A war with Iran will make Viet Nam look like a Folk Dance. REPOSTING There wouldn't be a real war. The USA would simply sink the Iranian navy in less then an afternoon. After that the oil pipelines would be destroyed. The nuclear bunker is perhaps too far underground but 24 hour surveillance would mean nobody goes in or out. Unless they want a missile down their throat. We don't need to occupy Iran. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Fact is something that you refuse to acknowledge. Well here is a fact you better before the body bags start getting filled. 42 million Iranians have served their mandatory 2 years in their military and can be recalled to active duty within 48 hours in a modernized mountainous country 3/4 the size of India who is allies with both Russia and China being resupplied indefinitely. A war with Iran will make Viet Nam look like a Folk Dance. REPOSTING Ground war?? Not required to remove Iran supreme leader Khamenei. Don't forget at least half of those 'trained' soldiers hate him. He just killed 1500 of them last month because they were rioting over food. The new slogan in Iran is MIGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rabas said: Ground war?? Not required to remove Iran supreme leader Khamenei. Don't forget at least half of those 'trained' soldiers hate him. He just killed 1500 of them last month because they were rioting over food. The new slogan in Iran is MIGA. Just shock and awe using air power. All designed to take out infrastructure. They are probably sending little kids to act as human shields already. Edited January 4, 2020 by Cryingdick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, rabas said: Ground war?? Not required to remove Iran supreme leader Khamenei. Don't forget at least half of those 'trained' soldiers hate him. He just killed 1500 of them last month because they were rioting over food. The new slogan in Iran is MIGA. Hope your right but trump supporters frequently live in alternate facts. I'm just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Cryingdick said: Just shock and awe using air power. All designed to take out infrastructure. They are probably sending little kids to act as human shields already. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said: Time will tell. Iran has only maybe ten targets in their entire country that would cripple their entire war machine assuming we had already played dive bomber with their limited navy. They import gasoline, that should show you advanced they are technologically speaking. I hope all American companies are scrambling to improve their cyber security. Thanks for making us hustle Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted January 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: However when they killed an American he killed a big target. Thats the key here. They have been terrorizing away and Trump just turned the economic screws, but the red line is now clear. Dont kill Americans. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Nyezhov said: Thats the key here. They have been terrorizing away and Trump just turned the economic screws, but the red line is now clear. Dont kill Americans. Trump made that very clear from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Some more detail on the missile hit. Some beautiful pictures here. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10663094/irans-general-qasem-soleimani-drone/ A clear lesson to those who mess with Trump. Edited January 4, 2020 by Kelsall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 The Iraqi army told Reuters that airstrikes targeting Iraq’s Popular Mobilisation Forces - an umbrella grouping of Iran-backed Shi’ite militias - struck near Taji, north of Baghdad, killing five people and critically wounded three, an Iraqi army source said late on Friday. A US official denied that the attack was carried out by the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted January 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Trump made that very clear from the beginning. It makes it easier and solves the endless wars problem. Obama, to his credit, well used the death from above option, his error was sucking up to the Iranians, he just didnt have the nuts to take the political hits which come from standing up to them. The mullahs well know now we arent kidding and Trump isnt Obama. They know he will win in 2020. Can they last till 2024? Sends a nice message to Kim. We can kill anyone, anywhere, anytime. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: It makes it easier and solves the endless wars problem. Obama, to his credit, well used the death from above option, his error was sucking up to the Iranians, he just didnt have the nuts to take the political hits which come from standing up to them. The mullahs well know now we arent kidding and Trump isnt Obama. They know he will win in 2020. Can they last till 2024? Sends a nice message to Kim. We can kill anyone, anywhere, anytime. If you have an underground bunker you still need to get the weapons to the launch site. NK is another kettle of fish but it is guaranteed the Israelis will never allow Iran to gain a launch site even temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Trump has made Iran more of an enemy with his foolhardy abandonment of the nuclear treaty, and the onerous sanctions. Now this? Get ready America. Get ready to feel a lot of pain and suffering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Trump has made Iran more of an enemy with his foolhardy abandonment of the nuclear treaty, and the onerous sanctions. Now this? Get ready America. Get ready to feel a lot of pain and suffering. Get ready Thai expat Americans for the dollar to fall. It isn't going to cause the average American any pain. Edited January 4, 2020 by Cryingdick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Holzerfilled Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: We can kill anyone, anywhere, anytime. I would not read too much into the effort it took to kill him. The guy seems to have had a tendency to underestimate his opponents. " In 2006, Nasrallah ordered a group of his fighters to kidnap Israeli soldiers—an operation that the Middle Eastern security official told me was carried out with Suleimani’s help. A brief but fierce war ensued, in which the Israel Defense Forces destroyed much of Lebanon. “I don’t think Suleimani expected that reaction,” the official said." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: I would not read too much into the effort it took to kill him. The guy seems to have had a tendency to underestimate his opponents. " In 2006, Nasrallah ordered a group of his fighters to kidnap Israeli soldiers—an operation that the Middle Eastern security official told me was carried out with Suleimani’s help. A brief but fierce war ensued, in which the Israel Defense Forces destroyed much of Lebanon. “I don’t think Suleimani expected that reaction,” the official said." Either way he got, got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Get ready Thai expat Americans for the dollar to fall. It isn't going to cause the average American any pain. This assumption is exactly what got America into this position. Just wait. The fallout from this could be unfathomable. The hubris behind the US position is the real issue here. Trump's claim about trying to end a war is as far from the truth, as most of what he has said since assuming office. Always remember, truth is not truth. Peace is not peace. War is not war. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: This assumption is exactly what got America into this position. Just wait. The fallout from this could be unfathomable. The hubris behind the US position is the real issue here. Trump's claim about trying to end a war is as far from the truth, as most of what he has said since assuming office. Always remember, truth is not truth. Peace is not peace. War is not war. Look forward to interest rate cuts and a lower dollar if this plays out badly. However the good side is if you are invested this should more than offset it. For Americans like me living at home we like a weak dollar. Edited January 4, 2020 by Cryingdick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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