1 minute ago, alfalfa19 said:

that is exactly correct.   the only reason he changed his tune is because of how popular she is and the impact she is having.    never fear, it won't be long before he loses control of his mouth as usual,  and starts insulting and ridiculing her again. 

Hope so

16 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

The Paris accord is an absolute scam

China is actually buying carbon credits to pollute more!! 

The IPCC and the commodities markets that they are using as instruments is a way for the despicable Al Gore and his scumbag friends to make trillions........yes trillions of $$$$$$$

 

From what you say, UN which provide the Framework for the Paris Agreement was party to the scam. Mighty strong accusation or you just mesmerized by Trump’s idiosyncratic crazy ideas.  

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Trump is a climate denier. Why wouldn't he be, when he and his cronies will be insulated from the effects?

I don't know which is sadder, the electorates being gulled by populists who don't have a clue themselves, or angry old men attacking a teenage girl for being angry about the mess we are leaving her generation.

There it is again, the ignorance of presuming a binary choice indicates you are either with the "good" or the "bad". 

 

Get a grip. 

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

From what you say, UN which provide the Framework for the Paris Agreement was party to the scam. Mighty strong accusation or you just mesmerized by Trump’s idiosyncratic crazy ideas.  

Yeh the UN are part of the scam, is that a strong enough accusation?

12 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Some perhaps need reminding that the likes of Al Gore were banging this drum long before St Greta was even born & that others weren't convinced then either.

The world communities were concerned enough to commit to the Kyoto Protocol in 2008 in which 37 countries have binding targets to reduce greenhouse gas emission. 

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The world communities were concerned enough to commit to the Kyoto Protocol in 2008 in which 37 countries have binding targets to reduce greenhouse gas emission. 

I must admit there are some great lobbyists around the world!

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Falling in line with those habitually posting derogatory comments aimed at a teenage girls is not compulsory either.

Here we are again, someone else on the left deciding who can be criticized and who can't with virtue signaling 

5 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

I must admit there are some great lobbyists around the world!

But but Greta was not borne then. Still the worries of far reaching and long lasting changes to the natural environment, ecosystem and human societies must have impacted lobbyists to push hard for global commitments. 

I would like to see these two in a head on head debate. I think it would be close. Which is kinda pathetic for Trump. 

1 minute ago, sucit said:

Which is kinda pathetic for Trump. 

 

 

 

......... and Greta ...

9 minutes ago, sucit said:

I would like to see these two in a head on head debate. I think it would be close. Which is kinda pathetic for Trump. 

i dont, neither bring any relevant history, science, or technical knowledge,

they are literally illiterates on all associated fields beside politics,

which unfortunately dominate and degenerate the debate into pure distilled filth of propaganda

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3 hours ago, atyclb said:

for the sake of objectivity and open mindedness it is interesting how this swedish woman reflects on greta thunberg and issues related to her

 

 

‘If the answer is yes, then you obviously have to buy into all the leftist Kitiona Andy into the panic’

 

Honestly atyclb, do you really swallow that kind of baseless premise or is just you don’t have any better arguments than this hogwash?

 

 

6 hours ago, Tug said:

It’s just trump pandering and lying keep it up Greta I’d be proud if you were my daughter plus it’s fun to see all the old duffers here try to silence her lol!

 

If she were your daughter, then hope you'd not be ruthlessly exploiting her and her mental condition like her parents are, to push your agendas.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘If the answer is yes, then you obviously have to buy into all the leftist Kitiona Andy into the panic’

 

Honestly atyclb, do you really swallow that kind of baseless premise or is just you don’t have any better arguments than this hogwash?

 

 

 

If Greta Thunberg announced it was Thursday today some would applaud it as profound!

 

Unfortunately her autism makes here a prime target for the political exploitation of her parents and their friends. 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

From what you say, UN which provide the Framework for the Paris Agreement was party to the scam. Mighty strong accusation or you just mesmerized by Trump’s idiosyncratic crazy ideas.  

 

Carbon Credits quickly became a tradeable financial instrument for many countries and organizations. As with all trades, supply and demand, people can and do make money.

 

But the idea they reduce carbon emissions is exactly that - an idea.

 

Unless India and China seriously buy into this, which at the moment they aren't, whatever the RoW do won't matter diddly squat.

 

And neither are at the moment. 

Little Greta is too smart to chat with this mindless huckster.

Wake me up when she takes on China. If I didn't know better I would have thought she worked for emperor Xi. Her mission to weaken the west by forcing them into making changes that result in them becoming even less competitive worldwide. All the while China keeps constructing coal fired power plants and making solar panels/windmills to sell in the west. Eventually all worldwide manufacturing comes from Asia and the west becomes even more dependent on their Asian masters. Take over complete.

Oh wait isn't that strategy in a famous Chinese book by Sun Tzu.

53 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Unless India and China seriously buy into this, which at the moment they aren't, whatever the RoW do won't matter diddly squat.

What about US which the second largest polluter in the world. Their leader has even denied climate change, reversing many environment policies and championing the return of coal and fossil fuels. That is doing diddly squat bigly. 

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So Greta has now been elevated to "stardom".

Based on what may I ask, perhaps her complaints, her scowl, her ability to repeat what adults tell her?

If it's come to this, IMO mankind is indeed doomed.

And what do you stand for?  I would rather have her president of the USA.  At least she can speak above the grade level of trump.  How do you know people tell her what to say?  Do you have proof ???? what about the kids speaking up about gun violence-survivors of mass killings-idiots because they are kids ???? 

11 minutes ago, Redline said:

And what do you stand for?  I would rather have her president of the USA.  At least she can speak above the grade level of trump.  How do you know people tell her what to say?  Do you have proof ???? what about the kids speaking up about gun violence-survivors of mass killings-idiots because they are kids ???? 

Do you think virtue signaling is a valid intellectual argument for your ideas? 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

4 hours ago, atyclb said:

for the sake of objectivity and open mindedness it is interesting how this swedish woman reflects on greta thunberg and issues related to her

 

 

‘If the answer is yes, then you obviously have to buy into all the leftist Kitiona Andy into the panic’

 

Honestly atyclb, do you really swallow that kind of baseless premise or is just you don’t have any better arguments than this hogwash?

 

 

 

honest to god i wasn't baiting you

42 minutes ago, Redline said:

 I would rather have her president of the USA.

i went the other direction, never would it have come to my mind to support trump in any shape or form, but he is the last glimmer of reason in this propaganda,

i place my hope on him to stand against this lunacy that grip western europe politicians,

until they finally snap out of it

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Oh puleeze. Banning plastic bags in supermarkets where everything is wrapped in plastic, giving up meat, electric cars using scarce raw materials, windmills and lots of taxes. LOL. They won't even stop Brazil burning down the rainforest.

Nothing about population reduction, increased public transport and no holiday air travel.

As I expected, you left out the elephant in the room - energy generation. That would be rather inconvenient for your argument, would it not?

Fossil fuels generate heat. Absorbing radiation from the sun, and converting it to electricity, then storing it in batteries, does not.

Markets and financiers are already voting. Gautam Adani could not get a single bank in the whole world to loan the money for the Adani coal mine, so he is going it alone with finance from his house of cards. Feel like being one of his contractors or sub-contractors?

It's a race between d##khead politicians and scientists. Bad luck for all of us if the politicians win, but they'll be OK with their taxpayer-funded pensions. Think about that next time you vote for them.

4 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

Do you think virtue signaling is a valid intellectual argument for your ideas? 

I didn’t have high expectations of you-of course, you let me down.  

10 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

so let's all follow Greta !

Baaa Baaa

How many idiots follow a mythical god Baaa Baaa? i would rather follow her than some made up fantasy

Just as well Greta isn't like hot y'know. Would provoke a cringeworthy comment from Prez.

Some troll posts, inflammatory posts, off topic posts and the replies have been removed. 

 

5 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Fossil fuels generate heat. Absorbing radiation from the sun, and converting it to electricity, then storing it in batteries, does not.

there is energy waste heat from that too, just like for everything else,

its a reoccurring theme that alarmists does not know basic physics,

a coincidence ? i think not

and ditto for batteries, they will lose a good deal of that stored energy over time,

not to mention its entirely unrealistic from an economic view at this point in time.

here is a primer for engineering illiterates to keep discussion in the realm of reality,

oh wait, asking for reality amidst co2 & climate change angst, what was i thinking ?

 

15 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

What a stupid comment, who do you think writes Trump's lines, and most politicians, royals etc etc, where have you been living ?

 

As for Greta, she is a superstar, what have you done to educate your kids, if any on how to manage their share of for example, waste disposal, or reduction in green gas emissions, yeh, I thought so.

 

If we all took your opinion, our future generations would certainly be doomed, at least she is pushing the envelope for change, why, because it's needed, the world knows it, but Greta has come along and is pushing hard, and we should all support her cause, not put her down, I mean how negative can you be.

Superstar?  Really?  Because of all her extensive studies on climate?  I guess this would also make Chicken Little a superstar.  Wow, Chicken Little was way before his time.  Who would have thunk it. ????