11 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

Perhaps you could get your facts right. http://www.influenzavirusnet.com/1918-flu-pandemic/mortality.html

 

It's also considerably less dangerous than SARS - that was close to 10%

those you call "facts" are based on China Gov numbers?

How is it possible that about 40 deaths made Wuhan a ghost city?

Do you think that China Gov scared Wuhan citizens up to making all of them barricade at home?

Does it sounds strange to you?

 

 

10 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Classed as "Boat people". They turn  them all around.

I was extracting the urine.

Just now, Salerno said:

I was extracting the urine.

Aha! lol

1 hour ago, pokerface1 said:

I read somewhere that People in Thailand who had the virus had become well and were sent home. My question is if you recover from the virus do you immediately cease to be a carrier ?

I wouldn't believe everything you read, I read the same thing, later to read Prayut said he had it and the PM2.5 situation under control.

 

Why on earth would those who came here from China who were infected, go back ?

6 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Are you aware of the annual death toll caused  world wide  by the "conventional " influenza ?

Yes I am, 0.1 percent the usual mortality rate. Mostly old or otherwise immunocompromised. This is different, much more aggressive and spreading fast.

 

SARS had 8500 cases after 7 months and we are already over that, after ~50 days. SARS had higher mortality rate of 11 percent but the infection rate was less than one. 

 

If the number of deaths are less than 500 by next Wednesday, not so bad. Not great, not terrible. If it is 2000 then it is global pandemic bad with serious consequences and disruptions to the global economy.  

13 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

The death toll from SARS was also exacerbated by the fact that it was not revealed early enough  although recognized. A Mistake that the Chinese  have not repeated this time.

WRONG! They repeated it. You need to research a little more. 

You already let thousand in so what the real number of people in Thailand that have it now

I heard all is safe so just hop on !

When Chinese tourists arrive in Thailand they should go immediately to immigration and fill in the TM30. This will control the virus 100%. I'm using Thai logic.

Considering!?!? ????‍♂️

Italy stopped a cruise ship because of ONE sick Chinese lady.

All good now apparently. 

14 hours ago, Timwin said:

Yes I am, 0.1 percent the usual mortality rate. Mostly old or otherwise immunocompromised. This is different, much more aggressive and spreading fast.

 

SARS had 8500 cases after 7 months and we are already over that, after ~50 days. SARS had higher mortality rate of 11 percent but the infection rate was less than one. 

 

If the number of deaths are less than 500 by next Wednesday, not so bad. Not great, not terrible. If it is 2000 then it is global pandemic bad with serious consequences and disruptions to the global economy.  

 

The death rate from this outbreak is clearly way less than the 2% currently being reported because the confirmed cases number is based solely on those diagnosed which is a clumsy process and requires folk to report to a hospital and get checked. Due to resource constraints only the sickest are doing so. The no doubt thousands of people who have it with mild symptoms reduces the death rate significantly. Basic maths. 

 

And the deaths are old and sick people in the vast majority of cases. 

 

Its acting like flu.... with a marginally higher death rate that is yet likely overstated ... 

 

This just all seems much hysteria and nonsense. Don’t even get me started on all the mask wearing ???? 

 

14 hours ago, lavezzi said:

those you call "facts" are based on China Gov numbers?

How is it possible that about 40 deaths made Wuhan a ghost city?

Do you think that China Gov scared Wuhan citizens up to making all of them barricade at home?

Does it sounds strange to you?

 

 

 

I just need to adjust my tinfoil hat before I re read your post, just hang on a sec.... 

16 hours ago, colinneil said:

Considering, WHAT!! Past time these dopey sods woke up, and put a stop to visitors from China, until this virus is brought under control.

Oh stupid me, the country will lose money, and that cannot be allowed to happen.

So what if a few die just collateral damage........ Pathetic situation.

As they dither over the loss of tourist money, this has happened. The WHO has declared a global public health emergency because of the spread of the virus outside of China, describing it as an “unprecedented outbreak”. But I doubt an engineering degree Anutin would understand what the WHO is.

Thai government has a big quandary......tourist money or Coronavirus,

which one do you think they will choose .

regards Worgeordie 

No more tourists from China until this situation is sorted out! Other countries have done it. Please do it now. While you guys are talking about it more infected Chinese are entering. 

16 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Lets see if any rich and important people die then we might do it, eventually ????

I was advised on Thursday that Mr Prayut is off work due to a high fever. The Thai who relayed this news to me added, "he claims to be sick because of hard work and tired (collecting tax in his pocket has tired him out)".

 

Beyond relaying this information, I make no further comment.

17 hours ago, webfact said:

The government is considering suspending the visa on arrival facility for Chinese tourist

Dont expect any action fast.  Time for a committee, study tour and workshop.

17 hours ago, rkidlad said:

Just put a block on travel to and from China for now. Better to err on the side of caution.

 

Finally, some good news. 

 

16 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

And none have died

Yet!

15 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

A Mistake that the Chinese  have not repeated this time.

I read something quite to the contrary today. I can not post it here as not sure if allowed. But I will PM you the article if you wish.

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

Considering, WHAT!! Past time these dopey sods woke up, and put a stop to visitors from China, until this virus is brought under control.

Oh stupid me, the country will lose money, and that cannot be allowed to happen.

So what if a few die just collateral damage........ Pathetic situation.

A saying with 'stable' 'horse' and 'bolted' comes to mind!! ????????????

16 hours ago, ChipButty said:

They let a boat land in Phuket with 1200 Chinese on board 

The place is crawling with them. Looks like little Chine out there. I can't blame them really I run away too and Thailand is one of the few places welcoming them with open arms. 

Some up to date figures:

Deaths - 213 all in China

Confirmed cases in China 7736 - Rest of world 98

Average age of infected persons in China - 56

Number of previous global emergencies since 2009 - 5 (2009 Swine flu, 2014 Ebola and Polio, 2016 Zika and 2019 Ebola again)

So after at least 11 days, just 98 cases outside China with no fatalities. Meanwhile, after 11 days on Thai roads.....

 

15 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

The death toll from SARS was also exacerbated by the fact that it was not revealed early enough  although recognized. A Mistake that the Chinese  have not repeated this time.

A mistake that the Chinese HAVE repeated this time. When this virus was revealed in early December, China arrested the 8 doctors who reported it as spreading false news, and bringing China into disrepute. It wasn't until the cases started increasing that China reluctantly revealed it!

 

There is an excellent article in the New York Times on this subject. Worth reading.

 

And I am a Brit who doesn't usually like what the USA does. This article is very interesting.

TIT

 

where $$$$ is more important than people, always, ever

4 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

A mistake that the Chinese HAVE repeated this time. When this virus was revealed in early December, China arrested the 8 doctors who reported it as spreading false news, and bringing China into disrepute. It wasn't until the cases started increasing that China reluctantly revealed it!

 

There is an excellent article in the New York Times on this subject. Worth reading.

 

And I am a Brit who doesn't usually like what the USA does. This article is very interesting.

The Thais have not announced updated numbers since Jan 27. There was a thread on here yesterday quoting the nation newspaper saying that provincial hospitals are not allowed to announce anything by order of the health Department but it seems to have disappeared 

8 minutes ago, mrfill said:

So after at least 11 days, just 98 cases outside China with no fatalities. Meanwhile, after 11 days on Thai roads.....

 

Completely irrelevant !

This event is about a virus, not Thai roads. One has nothing to do with the other.

16 hours ago, MaxLee said:

As always, the last ones to react worldwide 

Sorry not so fast. Count in Finland. They have a confirmed case and nobody there is concerned... even that person had contact with several others and spreading it for days.. No urgency to deal with it and a doctor (in charge) is saying that people should really worry about flu and influenza...

 

Wuhan citizen plainly tells the #coronavirus situation in Wuhan & seeks help from the world.

 

China coronavirus: deadly day in Hubei as a record high 42 patients die; China total rises to 213
Of the newly reported deaths, 30 were in Wuhan, health officials said
The province has reported 5,806 confirmed cases, with 32,340 people still under observation
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3048320/china-coronavirus-deadly-day-hubei-record-high-42-patients-die

Thursday’s toll brought the nationwide death total to 213. So far, no fatality has been reported outside mainland China.
A total of 1,220 new cases have been confirmed in 17 cities across the province on Thursday, bringing the total to 9,356 nationwide, far exceeding that of the 2002-03 Sars epidemic, which killed almost 800 people worldwide.

Despite the World Health Organisation’s (WHO) declaration on Thursday that the outbreak was a global health emergency, as cases continued to spread outside China, WTO officials said they opposed any move to close China’s borders or restrict Chinese travellers’ access.

On Thursday, the US State Department allowed American diplomatic staff and their families in Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu and Guangzhou to leave the country.

 

Edited January 31, 20206 yr by FinChin67

I have a prediction:

Many people living in Thailand and Thai citizens have chosen to stay indoors as much as possible until this situation is under control (from what I hear).

That may cause boredom.

I predict in about 9 to 11 months from now, there will be a baby boom of both Thai/Thai and Thai/farang babies. ????

 

A bit late to "consider" this now, yes? The damage has been done already.

My 2¢