Ancient herb kariyat might ease virus symptoms, says MD

By The Nation

 

 

The best available protection against the recently identified coronavirus 2019-nCoV might be kariyat, an herbal remedy that’s been used in ayurvedic medicine for thousands of years.

 

Dr Pakakrong Kwankhao, head of Chaopraya Abhaiphubejhr Hospital’s Centre for Evidence-based Thai Traditional and Herbal Medicine, noted that the virus’ symptoms resemble those of the common cold, “which can be difficult to separate from the common flu”.

 

“So, having a medicine for people to take care of themselves is important,” she said.

 

The bitter-tasting kariyat (Andrographis paniculate) is good for relieving cold symptoms as well as lung inflammation and strengthens the natural immunity,” Pakakrong said. 

 

“It’s easy to grow and people can ask around for it since it’s listed on Thailand’s List of Essential Medicines.”

 

There are Ministry of Public Health recommendations for its use, though, she said.

 

“It can be used for children and the elderly, but we recommend against pregnant and lactating women using it.”

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30381363

 

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They've tested it on corona then? Pretty big claim but i guess it says "might" 

The scientific evidence for this is?

Ah the book of speculation I see.

 

The Cure! Took Thais long enough. 

This Dr wouldn't be the owner of a very large kariyat farm by any chance is he?

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

This Dr wouldn't be the owner of a very large kariyat farm by any chance is he?

Yes, an how much would you need to cough up for a gram of that "cure".

It's used to treated the common cold and flu, so this MD is not taking much risk there

This would be like those cures for HIV and others Thai doctors have proudly announced over the years..

Don't know much about this herb, but I am going to stick with my good old amulet.

1 minute ago, khunpa said:

Don't know much about this herb, but I am going to stick with my good old amulet.

So far 100% sucess rate in protecting against coronavirus !!! 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The bitter-tasting kariyat (Andrographis paniculate) is good for relieving cold symptoms as well as lung inflammation

 

Reducing lung imflammation in a lower-respiratory situation is pretty key.

 

Would love to find out more on the chemistry here?

 

 

13 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Reducing lung imflammation in a lower-respiratory situation is pretty key.

 

Would love to find out more on the chemistry here?

 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032030/ 

Wait for the surge in HIV anti-virals being requested that someone recently said can help somewhat.

Getting all the people feeling ill to try this first before they overcrowd the hospitals in fear is a smart move. The truth is most all don't have the wu-flu. Start with something grown locally or purchased cheaply and give that a try. Half of the colds will go in a few days anyways. When that doesn't work, they'll head to the hospital.

18 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

The bitter-tasting kariyat (Andrographis paniculate) is good for relieving cold symptoms as well as lung inflammation

Any trials being conducted anywhere?? Or just pure speculation ans hoping the mother in laws farm can clear excess stock??
 

The words 'might' and 'Thai Traditional and Herbal Medicine' worry me more than a little. I think perhaps we should understand where and when this guy got his medical qualifications.

41 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

So far 100% sucess rate in protecting against coronavirus !!! 

Was it properly blessed? And did the priest have a proper wand? Can't be too careful

Edited January 31, 20206 yr by ParkerN

23 minutes ago, xylophone said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032030/ 

Quote

In many developing countries, it is estimated that about two third of the population relies heavily on traditional practitioners and medicinal plants to meet primary healthcare needs

Ans that's why, ladies, gentlemen and punters, we're DOOMED.

25 minutes ago, TooBigToFit said:

Getting all the people feeling ill to try this first before they overcrowd the hospitals in fear is a smart move. The truth is most all don't have the wu-flu. Start with something grown locally or purchased cheaply and give that a try. Half of the colds will go in a few days anyways. When that doesn't work, they'll head to the hospital.

 

...and give the virus more time to do damage while you "give it a try"?

 

Yeah, can't see anything wrong with that...

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Dr Pakakrong Kwankhao, head of Chaopraya Abhaiphubejhr Hospital’s Centre for Evidence-based Thai Traditional and Herbal Medicine, noted that the virus’ symptoms resemble those of the common cold, “which can be difficult to separate from the common flu”.

 

“So, having a medicine for people to take care of themselves is important,” she said.

Thanks doc, I needed a laugh today. 

My daughter went down with the flue the other week. The doctor prescribed it for her (whilst carrying out the inevitable battery of tests). It certainly made her less poorly. After a couple of days looking after her I went down as well - not as badly, Lucy hasn't had the flu before, I am positively awash with antibodies. I took it too , it seemed to work.

 

Whilst it may not cure this virus, if it alleviates the symptoms, well that may be a good thing. It is readily available.

Edited January 31, 20206 yr by JAG

Many people seems to forget that most of the times there are just no cure for virus born illnesses (it's not like bacteria and penicillin), just remedies that will help us cope better with the symptoms of the decease while our body fight off the virus.

And if you read the research that someone posted (it was done by people from Nigeria, Germany, US and Pakistan, and was funded by a Fulbright scholarship!), then it shows that this plant have some medical properties!

Edited January 31, 20206 yr by Kasset Tak

I hate when they talk about Thai things, and in this case one with some reputable uses and properties, and they don't give the Thai name. Luckily it was recognizable from the picture. Many people take ฟ้าทะลายโจร (fah talai jone) for sickness here and elsewhere. Whether it's applicable to CV is speculation at this point, as others have pointed out.

They're just following the regional trend. In India they've been recommending Homeopathy and Ayurveda for a while already... 

Troll post reported and removed along with reply.  

 

One word comes to mind;
far too many thai doctors are ..... charlatans who want us to take our bladder for a lantern ...

14 hours ago, xylophone said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032030/ 

 

From the paper:  "used traditionally for the treatment of array of diseases such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, ulcer, leprosy, bronchitis, skin diseases, flatulence, colic, influenza, dysentery, dyspepsia and malaria", so pretty much a universal panacea.

 

No reference in the list to erectile dysfunction, but apparently it's "erect handsome herb", so I guess it helps with problems in that department, too.

Pity the Rhino when some quack in China says its horn can stop the virus !

Let him be a guinea pig and trial it personally? 15 minutes with the Thai taxi driver that has the virus is all that is needed for transfer of the virus.

Witch doctor speaks with forked tongue me thinks????

14 hours ago, Kasset Tak said:

Many people seems to forget that most of the times there are just no cure for virus born illnesses (it's not like bacteria and penicillin), just remedies that will help us cope better with the symptoms of the decease while our body fight off the virus.

And if you read the research that someone posted (it was done by people from Nigeria, Germany, US and Pakistan, and was funded by a Fulbright scholarship!), then it shows that this plant have some medical properties!

But but but, TVF researchers have dismissed these research findings and will now rely on Western drugs, of which many have been derived from or copied from plants and herbs. 

But never let facts get in the way when airing your knowledge.