Korat gunman owned 5 guns bought under army welfare program

[MunkyBoogar]

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

you have the makings of a typical american gun lobbiest ....  but if your not i applogize.

I am not a gun lobbyist. I just fail to see how private gun ownership in Thailand has anything to do with the T21 shooting where MILITARY weapons were utilized. Please explain this to me in great detail.

 

I was in Korat and mere minutes from heading to T21 when it all transpired. I lost friends and am absolutely disgusted by the loss of innocent life.

[steven100]

1 minute ago, MunkyBoogar said:

I am not a gun lobbyist. I just fail to see how private gun ownership in Thailand has anything to do with the T21 shooting where MILITARY weapons were utilized. Please explain this to me in great detail.

 

I was in Korat and mere minutes from heading to T21 when it all transpired. I lost friends and am absolutely disgusted by the loss of innocent life.

sorry to hear your friend were lost in that terrible tragedy. Just saying that if all guns had to be registered then hopefully nutcases wouldn't be able to have guns due to strict screening processers, however this guy acquired the guns from him military base camp ... so different set of circumstances. 

[worgeordie]

25 minutes ago, MunkyBoogar said:

I am not a gun lobbyist. I just fail to see how private gun ownership in Thailand has anything to do with the T21 shooting where MILITARY weapons were utilized. Please explain this to me in great detail.

 

I was in Korat and mere minutes from heading to T21 when it all transpired. I lost friends and am absolutely disgusted by the loss of innocent life.

He used one of his OWN weapons to shoot the guard/s at the armoury,

that's how he was able to get military weapons.

regards worgeordie

[canthai55]

Heard an interview with Hank Williams Jr. years ago on Alaska radio.

Commentator asked Hank what he felt about gun control

"Putting two bullets in one hole, THATS gun control"

 

[tifino]

time for the System to de-gun all those retired Generals 

[MunkyBoogar]

In a perfect world strict screening may work but our world is far from perfect. That is why I used Japan as an example. Even though private gun ownership is low and very restricted in Japan, the underbelly of society still manages to get pistols and rifles into the country. It takes a lot of work to obtain and maintain a Japanese gun (shotgun and air rifle) ownership permit but this only works because the right to privately own weapon was taken away a very long time ago. It is easier to control weapons when there a very few in ownership.

 

The T21 shooting was more about a combination greed, corruption, class-ism and ignorance that turned a controllable situation into mass murder. 

[scorecard]

10 hours ago, colinneil said:

So according to the army chief, soldiers could buy guns using the army welfare program, and then make money selling them to private individuals for profit.

Crazy bloody crazy, a practice that needs stopped now.

Plus there's no mention whether the buyer needed to obtain / show a license, I suspect that isn't part of the process. Tit.

[sandrabbit]

13 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

So there's no register or record of how many guns someone buys, and no question asked about why anyone would want to have five? And that doesn't only apply to Thailand, of course. Guns have one purpose and one purpose only - to maim or kill. Why would anyone need five? Why would anyone need even one?

Please remember Bill Clinton when president tried to introduce a law to only allow people to buy 1 hand gun a month, NRA won.

[digbeth]

I thought government 'welfare' guns can't be sold for the first 5 years, or not at all and ownership can only be changed upon the death of the gun owner

 the 'discounts' is around 30-50,000 for a handgun that may retail to civillians for around 90,000 

 

the 'free' standard issue for police is probably really bad or comes with too much paperwork or aren't enough to go around the whole station most police just prefers to buy their own under the 'welfare' program, 

 

The program is also available to any government employee that might need it from teachers in the deep south to national park rangers, but it ended up to be that almost any government employee qualifies 

[RoiEtDale]

On 2/12/2020 at 9:07 AM, Bangkok Barry said:

So there's no register or record of how many guns someone buys, and no question asked about why anyone would want to have five? And that doesn't only apply to Thailand, of course. Guns have one purpose and one purpose only - to maim or kill. Why would anyone need five? Why would anyone need even one?

All you need is one. 

[RoiEtDale]

“permission to own a personal gun must be granted by an army general, not a colonel.” Right that’ll fix everything immediately make sure it’s a General making the decisions not a Colonel. I’ll make sure I write that one down because it’s not like I’ve never heard any stupidity or nonsense like that before during my long military career an answer like that from high up sounds typical to me. Sounds familiar. 

 

[outsider]

On 2/12/2020 at 9:02 AM, bluesofa said:

At the risk of going OT here Colin, it's not the only thing that's 'Crazy bloody crazy'.

Stopping cruise ships and foreigners coming into Thailand for fear of Coronavirus, but allowing citizens of the country where it's now an epidemic to enter Thailand freely. It just shows how scared of the Chinese the government and those them above are.

 

 

Living in the shadow of their Chinese paymasters for sure, and also a bit of Thai-logic, if I may hazard a guess? It's the same as raising prices of goods and services when demand is low and business is slow ????

 

[outsider]

On 2/12/2020 at 8:55 AM, colinneil said:

So according to the army chief, soldiers could buy guns using the army welfare program, and then make money selling them to private individuals for profit.

Crazy bloody crazy, a practice that needs stopped now.

 

It beggars bloody belief that this 'practice' was allowed to happen in the first place! They really did not think this through properly, did they?

 

[outsider]

On 2/11/2020 at 6:54 PM, snoop1130 said:

... the purchase of the guns by army officers must be more tightly controlled and permission to own a personal gun must be granted by an army general, not a colonel.

 

Owning a gun just got more expensive now, I presume. I mean, a general can't be cheaper than a colonel, right?

 

[Dan123]

On 2/12/2020 at 9:37 PM, Susco said:

If I'm not mistaken, it were those service provided weapons that were used in the rampage, so what does it matters that he owned more private weapons?

read again,  his private pistol shot his commander , and older lady,  then he went on rampage, spree