Trump says military may consider discipline for ousted aide Vindman

[metisdead]

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[Dumbastheycome]

Which virus  will rule the day?

[joecoolfrog]

12 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Game. Set. Match. 

 

The swamp is being drained!  Hopefully "disciplinary action" means a charge of treason.

 

Thank you President and Commander-in-chief Donald J. Trump!

Deranged president , supported by a large number of morons.

[khaowong1]

14 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Game. Set. Match. 

 

The swamp is being drained!  Hopefully "disciplinary action" means a charge of treason.

 

Thank you President and Commander-in-chief Donald J. Trump!

When your in the Military, if you were to get fired and transferred by a superior officer, and since the President is the top of the chain as the Commander in Chief, you can betcha your paycheck your going to get some discipline. 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.

 

[AussieBob18]

10 hours ago, Berkshire said:

The Washington Examiner?  55555  Fox News in print....

 

[Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.]

[Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.]

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

 

The liberal left-wing 'fake news' media has a bias against Trump - that is self-evident - and what is also self-evident is that the majority People do not share their values or believe their lies - as shown on social media outlets.   But as per cognitive bias - reinforcement of your views is readily available on MSM and mine on others.

 

However - try to look at the message and not just the messenger. Trump is clearing house and the treacherous Vindman brothers were left until after the Senate impeachment process was completed. Obviously to sack them while the process was being held would be used by the Dems as bias.  Cant win/Cant win - but he can sack anyone at anytime for any reason and he has been doing that.

 

IMO he should have sacked all of them under his command and replaced them ASAP with people he could trust. Trump ran on an anti-establishment platform promising to 'tear the house down'. He was and still is policitically niave and he obviously didnt realise they would plot and scheme against his Admin, and as you know leaks have been happening for a long time. Lesson learned for Trump and all that come after him - have people already lined up to take over every part of the Executive Branch and Whitehouse - and their first job is to clean house - meaning they will already be starting to select their staff in November (if not before).  Therefore going forward, all staff will now know that if their POTUS loses his/her job to the other side, then so will you.

 

[bristolboy]

16 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

The liberal left-wing 'fake news' media has a bias against Trump - that is self-evident - and what is also self-evident is that the majority People do not share their values or believe their lies - as shown on social media outlets.   But as per cognitive bias - reinforcement of your views is readily available on MSM and mine on others.

 

However - try to look at the message and not just the messenger. Trump is clearing house and the treacherous Vindman brothers were left until after the Senate impeachment process was completed. Obviously to sack them while the process was being held would be used by the Dems as bias.  Cant win/Cant win - but he can sack anyone at anytime for any reason and he has been doing that.

 

IMO he should have sacked all of them under his command and replaced them ASAP with people he could trust. Trump ran on an anti-establishment platform promising to 'tear the house down'. He was and still is policitically niave and he obviously didnt realise they would plot and scheme against his Admin, and as you know leaks have been happening for a long time. Lesson learned for Trump and all that come after him - have people already lined up to take over every part of the Executive Branch and Whitehouse - and their first job is to clean house - meaning they will already be starting to select their staff in November (if not before).  Therefore going forward, all staff will now know that if their POTUS loses his/her job to the other side, then so will you.

 

What treacherous act did Alexander Vindman's brother commit? Knowingly and with forethought being his twin? Even as a foetus he was cunning and treacherous!

[bristolboy]

11 hours ago, rabas said:

One only needs to read what fellow servicemen said about him in your Army Times link:

https://taskandpurpose.com/vindman-military-record

 

Not quite your sterling witness, esp. about jumping rank, his personality, and possible motives. 

Oh, you mean the comments and claiims of anonymous persons? And you accept the bona fides of such persons why exactly? How do know that they were even in the military?

Edited February 13, 2020 by bristolboy

[bristolboy]

34 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Oh, you mean the comments and claiims of anonymous persons? And you accept the bona fides of such persons why exactly? How do know that they were even in the military?

And, of course, there's no way that their comments could be politically motivated Because you've carefully vetted these anonymous commentators?

[metisdead]

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[Saint Nick]

17 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I think everyone seems to be glossing over what is probably the most important indicator of what's really going on here, which is the fact that Trump had both brothers removed. Let's say for a moment that I can sort of understand (even if don't agree with) why Trump was unhappy with Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman - how on earth does that justify firing his twin brother, who had absolutely nothing to do with the impeachment process? 

 

As far as I'm concerned, it's petty, vindictive and smacks of mob retaliation, where if you think someone has wronged you, you go after them and their family.

Because he is too dumb to tell them apart, maybe...?!

[Saint Nick]

16 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Well, he sure didn't like like someone with those creds.  He looked like a guy who eats too much pizza.

Says a man, hiding behind a picture of a movie- character on an internet forum!

...and I would liek to ad: look at the man who fired hima and tell me again about "too much pizza"!

Edited February 13, 2020 by Saint Nick

[PhonThong]

Strip him of his rank and kick him out with no option to retire. 

[RJRS1301]

44 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

As far as I'm concerned, it's petty, vindictive and smacks of mob retaliation, where if you think someone has wronged you, you go after them and their family.

MO of a spiteful an emotionally unintelligent narcissist.

After all he still thinks this is "reality" televison show>>>he delighted in saying "you're fired"  

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, PhonThong said:

Strip him of his rank and kick him out with no option to retire. 

For what?

 

Doing his constitutional duty, acting n accordance with his oath, answering a legal subpoena.

 

Or just that trump didnt like him.

[Opl]

John Kelly defends Vindman: 'He did exactly what we teach them to

“He did exactly what we teach them to do from cradle to grave,” Kelly told the audience at the Mayo Performing Arts Center. “He went and told his boss what he just heard.”

 

[joecoolfrog]

13 hours ago, PhonThong said:

Strip him of his rank and kick him out with no option to retire. 

Tried that but the ( unbiased Senate lol ) gave him a free pass.

[Langsuan Man]

20 hours ago, PhonThong said:

Strip him of his rank and kick him out with no option to retire. 

Just like the Republicans did with LTC Oliver North following his indictment for conspiring to defraud the United States

[spidermike007]

Set an honorable precedent why don't you? Discipline a loyal, lifelong soldier, who is doing his job and calling out irregularities and injustice, as John Kelly said. And pardon murderers and madmen. Great work. 

 

Donald Trump. Making sure America is never great again, one day at a time. 

[Tug]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Set an honorable precedent why don't you? Discipline a loyal, lifelong soldier, who is doing his job and calling out irregularities and injustice, as John Kelly said. And pardon murderers and madmen. Great work. 

 

Donald Trump. Making sure America is never great again, one day at a time. 

Take heart he’s a temp and think about the military seeing this ingormaus he better hope he doesent get tested lots are ready to frag his ass(trumps)

[Farangwithaplan]

On 2/12/2020 at 1:35 PM, Kelsall said:

Ahhh the washington post, owned by jeff bezos who hates Trump. 'Nuff said.

Ummm, no, that is not enough said. If you disagree with the content of the story it should be easy for you or any other person to clearly and concisely advise why it is false and you will be able to give clear evidence to counter it.

 

But I imagine you will just use another catchphrase with no substance to counter my post. Go on, prove me wrong.

 

[spidermike007]

On 2/13/2020 at 6:31 AM, AussieBob18 said:

The liberal left-wing 'fake news' media has a bias against Trump - that is self-evident - and what is also self-evident is that the majority People do not share their values or believe their lies - as shown on social media outlets.   But as per cognitive bias - reinforcement of your views is readily available on MSM and mine on others.

 

However - try to look at the message and not just the messenger. Trump is clearing house and the treacherous Vindman brothers were left until after the Senate impeachment process was completed. Obviously to sack them while the process was being held would be used by the Dems as bias.  Cant win/Cant win - but he can sack anyone at anytime for any reason and he has been doing that.

 

IMO he should have sacked all of them under his command and replaced them ASAP with people he could trust. Trump ran on an anti-establishment platform promising to 'tear the house down'. He was and still is policitically niave and he obviously didnt realise they would plot and scheme against his Admin, and as you know leaks have been happening for a long time. Lesson learned for Trump and all that come after him - have people already lined up to take over every part of the Executive Branch and Whitehouse - and their first job is to clean house - meaning they will already be starting to select their staff in November (if not before).  Therefore going forward, all staff will now know that if their POTUS loses his/her job to the other side, then so will you.

 

There is no doubt that Trump considered this an act of treachery. He demands lockstep obedience and absolute fealty to the Master. 
 

However, most Americans will disagree. Vindman is a hero. He spoke up, knowing his position may be jeopardized, by doing the right thing. 
 

When offending a president who puts personal loyalty over duty to his nation and his people gets you fired, you know the nation is traveling down the same path as Russia, in the first few years of Putin's autocracy. Very perilous times ahead. Trump is a dangerous man who absolutely needs to be defeated in November. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

I've still to see any of the Trump enthusiasts on here attempt a justification as to why Vindman's twin brother was dismissed from his post.

 

Any of you guys care to give it a stab?

[RJRS1301]

39 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I've still to see any of the Trump enthusiasts on here attempt a justification as to why Vindman's twin brother was dismissed from his post.

 

Any of you guys care to give it a stab?

For the same reason most dictators not get rid of the "offender" but also their family. Recent history, look to his mate in North Korea, entire families blasted away

Edited February 14, 2020 by RJRS1301

[Opl]

The Army will not investigate Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council staffer who testified in the president’s impeachment investigation, the service’s top civilian said Friday.

[earlinclaifornia]

https://news.yahoo.com/army-secretary-no-investigation-vindman-214753719.html 

trump again all bluster no truth

[Sujo]

Yes donald, they know they can do it, but they wont because unlike you he served his country with honor.

[wabothai]

On 2/12/2020 at 1:53 AM, gargamon said:

King Trump has spoken. Off with his head...

Let's be nice to the emperor and send him off to St. Helena.

[Jingthing]

What should really happen to Vindman, but sadly, won't.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-republicans-have-failed-vindman/2020/02/17/50b2825a-51a1-11ea-9e47-59804be1dcfb_story.html

 

Quote

 

Republicans owe Vindman a public apology

 

In the large category of things that justice demands but will never come to pass: The elected Republicans who voted against the impeachment and removal of President Trump owe Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman a public apology.

The National Security Council staffer, Iraq War veteran and Purple Heart recipient obeyed a lawful subpoena, gave truthful testimony and was rewarded by his commander in chief with unceremonious removal from the White House and vicious criticism designed to destroy his life and career.