For the first time in 13 years, my 90-day report reminder system failed me and I never got my "reminder" email in my Yahoo mail box.

 

I just went to make some copies of my passport and was very surprised to see that my 90-day report was due on 07 January.

 

What kind of trouble am I in, what do I do/say and how much of a fine might I be looking at?

 

Thanks in advance.

Yahoo Mail reminders do seem to be hit and miss, I have taken to plugging them into my phone calendar. 

I believe it is a 2000 baht fine and maybe a naughty boy telling off. Or how about a quick trip out of the country?

 

Here is what it says on the website.

 It is better to keep track of the rules of Thai Immigration at all times during your stay in the country, as failure to file your 90-day report can result in a fine of 2,000 THB, and can be increased up to 5,000 THB once you get arrested with an additional fine not exceeding 200 Baht for each day which passes until the law is complied with.

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by jacko45k

2,000 Baht fine.

So, 2,000 Baht fine - total amount? Expensive lesson...

 

jacko45k, not sure what you mean about the "quick trip out of the country"?

7 minutes ago, fishtank said:

2,000 Baht fine.

Or nothing but a pleasant but firm discussion with the immigration officer in your province.
I say that because it happened to me 3 or 4 years ago; it was more days than you saw that I had zapped 90 days.
When I went with my wife to the immigration office in Sakon Nakhon, my wife said to me: shut up, let me speak ..
and it worked out without penalty but with a moralizing discourse.

2 minutes ago, elektrified said:

So, 2,000 Baht fine - total amount? Expensive lesson...

 

jacko45k, not sure what you mean about the "quick trip out of the country"?

You can leave without having done the 90 day report and the counter is reset on return. I suspect your office would maybe miss your previous error in 90 days time.  

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by jacko45k

3 minutes ago, elektrified said:

So, 2,000 Baht fine - total amount? Expensive lesson...

 

jacko45k, not sure what you mean about the "quick trip out of the country"?

Drop into a local agent, most will do for 200 baht, they just include in their daily bundle.

5 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Drop into a local agent, most will do for 200 baht, they just include in their daily bundle.

Local agent?

9 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

Or nothing but a pleasant but firm discussion with the immigration officer in your province.
I say that because it happened to me 3 or 4 years ago; it was more days than you saw that I had zapped 90 days.
When I went with my wife to the immigration office in Sakon Nakhon, my wife said to me: shut up, let me speak ..
and it worked out without penalty but with a moralizing discourse.

I will definitely ask my wife to handle it for me. She is a master negotiator and an expert at dealing with the government. 

Thanks!

15 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

You can leave without having done the 90 day report and the counter is reset on return. I suspect your office would maybe miss your previous error in 90 days time.  

Your suggestion is that he try to circumvent the law and possibly be subject to arrest as his previous reporting time will then increase to several months?

They do have computers with the information chances are he will be caught and in much more trouble.

Terrible suggestion.

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by bkk6060

5 minutes ago, elektrified said:

Local agent?

Umm. visa agent!

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

Umm. visa agent!

Oh. Nah, never used one. I doubt they are as good a negotiator as my wife. But thanks for the suggestion.

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

Your suggestion is that he try to circumvent the law and possibly be subject to arrest as his previous reporting time will then increase to several months?

They do have computers with the information chances are he will be in much more trouble.

Terrible suggestion.

If you say so......how many people do you know who have been arrested for failing to do all of their their 90 day reports? 

As he would have left the country and returned, how does his previous requirement to report of having stayed in the country over 90 days increase at all... nonsense. I see it as no worse than a tourist skipping a TM30 because they have no need to attend immigration. 

4 minutes ago, elektrified said:

Oh. Nah, never used one. I doubt they are as good a negotiator as my wife. But thanks for the suggestion.

Agents are not the “boogey men” some suggest ,they just have access and it’s a routine for them. 

59 minutes ago, elektrified said:

For the first time in 13 years

 

59 minutes ago, elektrified said:

What kind of trouble am I in

As others have said, 2,000 baht fine, but can be up to 5,000 baht, that said, as you have suggested, go in with the wife who is a good negotiator and tell her to add to the story, I have noticed of late that he (you) is becoming very forgetful, leaving the stove on, leaving the car lights on, not knowing where he leaves things, I think I am going to have to take him to the doctor to get him assessed, maybe he has early stages of dementia, alsymers, etc etc.

 

They might take pity on you and skip the fine, although that depends how often you can get up and start walking off with your wife having to call you back saying where are you going, um, and you replying; I don't know, I forgot ????

 

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

You can leave without having done the 90 day report and the counter is reset on return. I suspect your office would maybe miss your previous error in 90 days time.  

Will it be cheaper to leave than pay the 2000 baht?

9 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Will it be cheaper to leave than pay the 2000 baht?

I think it's a safe bet that 2000 is cheaper.

15 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Will it be cheaper to leave than pay the 2000 baht?

That depends:

But he must have a Multiple-Entry Re-Entry Permit, so that his permission to stay will not be voided by exiting and re-entering Thailand.  Having to buy a Single-Entry (1000 THB)  or Multiple-Entry (3800 THB) to avoid this, is definitely not worth it.

If he has an ME Re-Entry Permit, and he lives close to the border he might consider that (but has to take into account the Visa or border-pass fee).

When the ONLY reason for exiting/re-entering would be avoiding the 2.000 THB fee, it would be better just pay the 2000 THB fine.

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by Peter Denis

3 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

 

When the ONLY reason for exiting/re-entering would be avoiding the 2.000 THB fee, it would be better just pay the 2000 THB fine.

Exactly, that was my point.

Come on guys, the fine is Bht 2,000. Why all the drama Queens ?

Can anybody confirm a 90 day fine of over that or "if caught" jail ?

I always just write the due date down on a big callender hanging on the kitchen wall, no need for electronics, only a red pen is needed why complicate matters.

1 hour ago, giddyup said:

Will it be cheaper to leave than pay the 2000 baht?

Someone already having a multiple re-entry permit, and maybe living near a border it would be.

Or someone who had a trip planned already.

Not a recommendation from me, more an 'option'.....

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by jacko45k

You’ll be ok but you’re going to get hit with a little fine it shouldn’t be more than a few thousand baht. In fact the maximum fine for late reporting is 5,000 baht tops but that’s like after months go by. You’re probably looking at maybe a 2,000 baht fine. 

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by EricS

OP - if it were me I’d go to the Immigration Monday. Take your wife with you. Go to 90 day check in line hand them your passport. If they tell you pay X amount pay it and go on with your life....

 

added... wait until they ask you for reason. Tell your reason .... 

Edited February 15, 20206 yr by DJ54
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I was about the same amount of time over on my 90 days check, I thought when I got a new passport and visa's transferred it would also reset the 90 days, it doesn't. Jomtien I/O explained the rules to me and why I was over.  I asked how much is the fine, he said I've fixed for you already, no fine.

Go to Immigration, pay the 2000 Baht and everything will be OK!

11 hours ago, elektrified said:

Oh. Nah, never used one. I doubt they are as good a negotiator as my wife. But thanks for the suggestion.

Agents don't negotiate when doing the 90 days reports for customers. They have more of an agreement with the officer working at the 90 days report desk. 

I am reminded of this every day in Thailand, almost never back home.

 

2,000 baht can destroy a person here, change their life, ruin their eating habits for a month, send them into disrepair and act as though they will die any moment.

 

While others spend 2000 on some beers and .....          every night

16 hours ago, elektrified said:

So, 2,000 Baht fine - total amount? Expensive lesson...

 

jacko45k, not sure what you mean about the "quick trip out of the country"?

 

Hardly an expensive lesson.  

 

23 hours ago, jacko45k said:

You can leave without having done the 90 day report and the counter is reset on return. I suspect your office would maybe miss your previous error in 90 days time.  

If you have a re-entry visa.