Cobras! Cobra Nest! Cobra Babies! How To Get Rid! Help!

[Bredbury Blue]

I posted on 20 March on another forum on snakes in my garden:

Worryingly is the maid and mother-in-law reckon they saw two cobras playing / romancing in the garden some weeks back - now that i don't want!

Well last sunday the first baby (finger to elbow length) was seen. It reared up in the garden to my wife and she dispatched it - seen in an area of garden where the two adult cobras were seen, where there's a long wooden footpath and luckily where my two toddlers don't go. This morning another was dispatched by my mother-in-law, but worryingly it was right outside the front door mosi screen (which the kids can open) next to our shoe rack. It seems then that the adults had a nest and now we've got juniors. Questions:

1. Apart from getting rid of the long wooden footpath (which we were going to do anyway for a different reason, and we'll be doing in the next few days), how do we get rid of these cobras? any services we can call to remove them - voluntary organisations, pest control?
   
2. How many babies are usually born?
   
3. Do they (the two adults / the babies) stay near the nest, in the area born or do they all move away to their own patch?
   

Anybody got the answers please, any advice? Help!

[leisurely]

I think you should consider calling the red cross snake farm. The management of our condo sorted this out. We had a nest of cobras, they came and caught 18 baby's (all the same length you describe, but capable of doing great damage to small children). Seemingly the smaller snakes will be fed to the bigger ones once a milking session has taken place. The mama? Well, we just don't know, sheis around somewhere planning more baby's...............................................Yikes

[Ijustwannateach]

You should be very careful indeed... I seem to recall that for about an hour after hatching, the cobra babies are not poisonous, but shortly after that they become more dangerous than they ever will be after; because although they are smaller they have not learned to measure the amount of venom they deliver (the adults will only deliver measured doses as warnings to non-prey animals) and will thus give their full dose to any threat they encounter until they are older.....

[Sheryl]

In addition to calling the Red Cross snake farm, do remove the walkway and generally clean out the yard to minimize hiding places, and plant a lot of lemon grass and other citrus (lemon trees etc), helps deter snakes. Might also help to burn some leaves or weeds.

I don't know about snakes but most animals tend to return to the same nesting grounds repeatedly if they found them satisfactory the first time.

[Sheryl]

P.S. Just to be on the safe side, find out where the nearest hospital with anti-venom on hand open 24 hours is and plan how you would get there. Hopefully you'll never need it but it is best to be prepared, after a snake bite people tend to be panicked and have trouble thinking clealry.

[savae]

Hi,

I have a snake repellant potion made by WaxNRepel CHEMICALS in a 25liter jerrycan. Pls get back to me on [email protected]. I'm willing to give it to you.

[gobs]

Savae,

Where to buy this repellant? Is it dangerous for dogs and cats?

I live in Chiang Mai, and have some problems with snakes in my garden too...

Thanks

[Bredbury Blue]

We went away for the weekend, but while we were away we had the wife's brothers come round and take away the wooden walkway (they wanted the wood for their house) and no further evidence of snakes found. Still don't feel very comfortable walking round the outside of the house these days and will take a while to get confidence back again.

Curious about the lemongrass suggestion - the area has a lot of plaa salid fish fields which are often bordered by lemongrass - whether it is proven to work, if so i'm sure the wife could be pursuaded to grow lemongrass border all aound the garden. Proven or old thai wifes story?

Researching the Web for answers to my initial 3 questions, there is very little out there to answer. Anybody have any answers?

[Okidoki]

Please...

There are no repellants or plants that works. Trust me on this. I have breeded cobras for a longtime and even caught them in the wild. Absolutely no reppellant works. Except if you burn leaves or something else. But I have found out that some times, the snakes go hiding instead to get away from it. Ordinary cobras was not in the line when brain and intelligence was handed out.... Please check out some of my other replies to snake problems.

Baby cobras are venomous from the first second they are hatched. Up to 40 eggs might be laid but normally 15-20 eggs. Apx 2.5 month after copulation, the eggs are laid and will be hatched after apx 45-60 days. (Depending on temperature, specimen, moisture, etc.)

http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?reque...1&page=0017 About cobras in Thailand.

[Old Man River]

I posted on 20 March on another forum on snakes in my garden:

Worryingly is the maid and mother-in-law reckon they saw two cobras playing / romancing in the garden some weeks back - now that i don't want!

If you are in Bangkok, call Fire and Rescue and they will remove them to a safer place. If you are outside of Bangkok, contact the equivalent. Normally, these guys are used to handling snakes and come fully equipped to do so. We then given them a few hundred THB to share. We never try to handle these things ourselves.

[Mosha]

I believe KCs are territorial.

[ChalongBoy]

Please...

There are no repellants or plants that works. Trust me on this. I have breeded cobras for a longtime and even caught them in the wild. Absolutely no reppellant works. Except if you burn leaves or something else. But I have found out that some times, the snakes go hiding instead to get away from it. Ordinary cobras was not in the line when brain and intelligence was handed out.... Please check out some of my other replies to snake problems.

Baby cobras are venomous from the first second they are hatched. Up to 40 eggs might be laid but normally 15-20 eggs. Apx 2.5 month after copulation, the eggs are laid and will be hatched after apx 45-60 days. (Depending on temperature, specimen, moisture, etc.)

http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?reque...1&page=0017 About cobras in Thailand.

Seems the local garden workers like white cement! Last for a few months except for a big downpour etc. I have seen this in the manyh gardeen shops in Phuket. There is also a 3m long pole with pronged tip that is common about HKT. I have two, since I live on the shores edge, and have used them both. If I don't a good thru shot the snake wraps itself aroound the Varment Skewer untill I slice thru the thing with a shovel. Only seems to be a problem during rainy season. Keep the pathways to your house clear and well lighted for night walking. I wacked the buggers from 2 cm to 2m. Kill'em dead! Skewers can be made of light pipe and a fishing prong. I gave 6 way with one to my favorite Thai resturant on Vises Road!

[Lopburi99]

I still think if I ever see one of these suckers I'll have a heart attack and die on the spot . I'm not joking. Until then, more nightmare material. They are like the personification of things like evil, fear, impending death, etc. if you will, for me anyway.

Snake lovers - more power to you.

Edited September 25, 2009 by Lopburi99

[Maestro]

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[shawndoc]

Any yet for some reason my wife will be cautious around a snake, yet run screaming if she sees a little frog in the garden.

[Ijustwannateach]

In some ways the babies are more dangerous than the adults; they become poisonous within minutes of being born and they do not yet have control over how much venom they administrate (an adult will not use all of his supply in one bite if he is only giving a warning).

[Gary A]

A friend of mine in Ao Nang has workers building a couple of bungalows for him. One of the workers was bitten on the toe by a baby Malaysian viper. The little snake was killed and identified. The guy refused to go to the doctor and is being treated by the village witch doctor. I asked my friend to let me know how it works out.

[steelepulse]

Hopefully it was a "dry" bite with no venom being injected.

[desmondspencer]

I had always thought that lacing the circumference of the garden with sulphur powder would work??

Not too sure if it'll work for you though...

Okidoki might have to confirm this.

Edited November 3, 2009 by desmondspencer

[languageexpress]

A friend of mine in Ao Nang has workers building a couple of bungalows for him. One of the workers was bitten on the toe by a baby Malaysian viper. The little snake was killed and identified. The guy refused to go to the doctor and is being treated by the village witch doctor. I asked my friend to let me know how it works out.

That is one tough but stupid dude.

[steffi]

A friend of mine in Ao Nang has workers building a couple of bungalows for him. One of the workers was bitten on the toe by a baby Malaysian viper. The little snake was killed and identified. The guy refused to go to the doctor and is being treated by the village witch doctor. I asked my friend to let me know how it works out.

That is one tough but stupid dude.

Malayan Pit Vipers are referred to by viperkeeper as "finger rotters" It will be interesting to see if he survives without narcosis.