COVID-19: Half a million people visited Thailand from severely affected countries

[simtemple]

 "BREAKING NEWS: Sky News Coronavirus - Milan set for lockdown" on YouTube

36 Italians who fell victim to the Covid 19 virus died overnight. 

 

Italians are still welcome in Thailand, without quarantine. 

Edited March 8, 2020 by simtemple

[potless]

Lots of valid points of view and links to statistics etc on this thread. Some members appear to be particularly concerned with some justification. These people may want to take notice that stress has a very negative affect on the immune system. Take a deep breath, calm down.

[emptypockets]

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

This is really starting to get scary TIT

In every post you put TIT.

Weren't you breast fed as a baby?

Edited March 8, 2020 by emptypockets

[tomazbodner]

Thailand is amazingly lucky. Only healthy tourists with incredibly strong immune systems are visiting. Or maybe it's chili... or palaa... that keeps Thai people safe.

[smudger1951]

Here in the UK, panick buying has stripped the shelves in fear of the future. Hand sanitizer, toilet tissue dried , canned foods etc. The projected numbers of people affected , mortality rate would overload the NHS Hospital services. So, what is the future for Thailand ? ? .

[raccos21]

It was just beginning.

[emptypockets]

3 hours ago, mfd101 said:

There have been reports here of something like 3000 people in Thailand suffering from something called 'viral pneumonia'.

 

But the testing system hasn't shown them to have CV, because only 2 or 3 tests are conducted a day.

 

So that's alright then. No need to panic.

No need to panic anyway. It's out of our control.

[emptypockets]

3 hours ago, toper3jr said:

Someone please start a petition or MORE, to hold the thai government responsible for their lies on this matter and to temporarily ban flights n tourists from most affected areas!

Isaan lawyers will get onto it. Worked with TM30 didn't it?

[DLock]

Interesting in this mornings UFC fights, the Chinese fighters said that they could not get out of China to make the flights to the USA, so they went to Thailand first and then easily jumped a flight USA.

 

Thailand could easily reach the hub status it has always coveted.

 

The Hub of Viral Pneumonia COVID-19.

 

[Parsve]

Agree. Strange that a country like Australia with no land borders with other countries and stopped flights from China and Sth K etc has far more cases that Thailand. One state NSW with a population of under 8mill has 38 cases presently.

Guess Tai figures of confirmed cases proves they are doing an extraordinary job or more likely unbelievable job.

It is all to do with temperature, putting it simply, Thailand is too hot ( over 27 Cel ) for the virus to thrive.

 

Sorry, but there is no evidence for that viruses not can be spread in high teperatur.

 

"David Heymann at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who led the global response to the SARS outbreak in 2003, points out that the MERS coronavirus has spread in Saudi Arabia in August, when it is very hot. “These viruses can certainly spread during high temperature seasons,” he says.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2233249-will-the-covid-19-coronavirus-outbreak-die-out-in-the-summers-heat/#ixzz6G58JLcLN 

[AlienHermit66]

4 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

14 day quarantine for all incoming travelers from European countries and the US would be my advise.

Just them? So you're saying let all the Asians and Iranians come with no quarantine for them??? <deleted>? Seriously. 

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, Parsve said:

Agree. Strange that a country like Australia with no land borders with other countries and stopped flights from China and Sth K etc has far more cases that Thailand. One state NSW with a population of under 8mill has 38 cases presently.

Guess Tai figures of confirmed cases proves they are doing an extraordinary job or more likely unbelievable job.

It is all to do with temperature, putting it simply, Thailand is too hot ( over 27 Cel ) for the virus to thrive.

 

Sorry, but there is no evidence for that viruses not can be spread in high teperatur.

 

"David Heymann at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who led the global response to the SARS outbreak in 2003, points out that the MERS coronavirus has spread in Saudi Arabia in August, when it is very hot. “These viruses can certainly spread during high temperature seasons,” he says.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2233249-will-the-covid-19-coronavirus-outbreak-die-out-in-the-summers-heat/#ixzz6G58JLcLN 

Clearly you have never been to Australia in Jan Feb and even March. Oz folk would come to Thailand for cool change.

70+ cases OZ population 25mill. Oz

far less tourists than Thailand. Australia has no land borders.

Thailand ~ 50 cases....Yeah right!

Covid-19 seems comfortable moving about in Italy right now. Hardly summer weather. Perhaps covid-19 is visa exempt.

Edited March 8, 2020 by DrJack54

[AlienHermit66]

3 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

The US is playing the same game. Two days ago only a total of 1,895 us citizens have been tested for coronavirus. (one way to keep numbers low).

South-Korea test 10,000 people a day.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-have-been-tested-coronavirus/607597/

 

 

Japan is playing the same game. I have talked to doctors here. They are testing very low numbers of people compared to what they have the capacity to test on a daily basis. They have been told to test only people who appear to be really sick and/or the aged. People with minor symptoms are sent home with some advice, if those with minor symptoms even bother to visit a hospital. Personally, I am not so sure that this approach is wrong. It is known that countless numbers of people will be infected but will be either asymptomatic or have minor symptoms only. There is no point wasting resources and hospital space on those countless thousands or millions - better to just tell them to stay home and/or avoid people as much as possible, and take care of their own recovery the same way they would with a flu or cold. 

[Jimbo53]

9 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Just read about an hospital in Italy where 70% of that staff got the virus also. Not sure if some face-masks and hand soap are going to improve the situation.

 

 

It probably wont be too long before we eventually hear of the hospital staff in Thailand being affected,along with a story on how many deaths have been incorrectly reported as something other than Covid-19.

[AlienHermit66]

3 hours ago, Proboscis said:

That does not follow. What it could also indicate is that the hot weather is working against the transmission of the corona virus in the same way as it operates against other viruses.

 

Think about it for a minute - where are the highest levels of infection? In countries where it has been cold for the past couple of months. For instance, China, Washington State, Iran, South Korea etc.

 

In fact, this is part of the strategy that is being employed in the UK - try to delay the level of infections until high summer.

In Japan also, the absolute worst areas is the far north Island of Hokkaido, where it is sub-zero with snow. 

[Bkk Brian]

Hiding the Truth! 

 

Hard hitting article just published by the Phuket News https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-opinion-hiding-the-truth-75173.php

 

All valid and logical points, well done guys!!

[DefaultName]

I've been watching Sky News from the UK and it's scary.  Figures from the government's own experts and the Health Minister;

80% of the population will get it, but most cases will be so mild that they won't even notice, a smaller number will get sick with flu-like symptoms and get better, around 1% will die.

 

1%, not too scary, right?

 

UK population is about 70 Million.

80% of that is 56 million.

1% of that is 560,000.

 

Dead People.

 

Thailand has a similar population number to the UK but health care is inferior.  Yes, I know that there are many excellent hospitals here, but most Thai's will stay with family, so spreading it wider and faster.

 

Scared yet?  Me too.

[SupermarineS6B]

Sweet Jesus !  "Official figures from South Korean immigration to the Thai government show there are more than 150,000 illegal Thai workers there".   and here they're holding a man hunt for a few old blokes kicking around Thailand, this just shows you how twisted some of these lot are......I wonder what would happen if all the countries around the world got sick of the insatiable farang bashing immigration is currently undertaking and did the same and  kicked out all the illegal Thais back to Thailand who've been enjoying a far better life abroad than at home, i just wonder how miffed the'yd be with the powers that be........ 

Edited March 8, 2020 by SupermarineS6B

[natway09]

This article basically says,

"We have no idea who is where, for how long or what they are doing" 

So much for Thai & S Korea's immigration systems

[geisha]

Not only lying. This behavior of deliberately hiding the true facts is downright dangerous. It is not encouraging the Thai people to take more care, wash their hands more often , instill responsibility in them and tourists alike. Tourists, who have no idea the health  risks and danger they are putting themselves in,  their families, and other people around them. Worsening the situation every minute.

Disgusting and shaming. 

[Traubert]

12 hours ago, unsubscribe said:

I don't know if we can declare wuhan has "peaked".

 

Wuhan still has the majority of their population vulnerable to the virus and they're all just sheltering in isolation. Eventually they have to be let out of their homes and it just takes one exposure for this thing to spread like wildfire.

 

The virus hasn't run it's course across the entire population so without a vaccine or natural immunity I'm unsure if it has actually "peaked".

 

10 hours ago, ukrules said:

The second wave will be come once they're allowed to roam freely in Wuhan again.

You should be aware that you are talking to someone who returned to China Friday night and is now under quarantine for fourteen days. In my city (6.4m people) there is one remaining hospital case and in my province (46.8m people) there are 31 people still in hospital. If you think the Chinese authorities are gullible enough to allow a repeat you seriously both need to think again. This isn't the UK with it's 'if you feel unwell, go home and ring the helpline' this is serious ongoing disease control previously unseen.

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, rabas said:

It didn't work though, did it? The entire  world is heading into a great pandemic for the record books. Then the CCP has the gall to ask even it's own citizens not return home for fear of bringing the disease to China.

China has not asked it's citizens not to return home. I came home to China on Friday night along with a planeload of Chinese. There was another China Southern flight into Guangzhou an hour before ours took off.

 

What happened on landing shows the measures China is taking. I can't think there's an more stringent place to try and enter if you are infected.

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

Not long anymore before China will close their borders for high risk countries. Scared of bringing the virus back into their country.

They won't. They'll just 'invite' you to be quarantined. You'll be told that before you board your flight, up to you. There's now plenty of spare room since almost 60,000 have recovered and gone home.

Edited March 8, 2020 by Traubert

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, Bundooman said:

So what is YOUR point?

That China has all the expertise it gained from it's experience over the last two months dealing with 80,000 cases, 50,000 of them successfully as of today,  and everybody else is talking amateur keyboard rowlocks.

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, Proboscis said:

That does not follow. What it could also indicate is that the hot weather is working against the transmission of the corona virus in the same way as it operates against other viruses.

 

Think about it for a minute - where are the highest levels of infection? In countries where it has been cold for the past couple of months. For instance, China, Washington State, Iran, South Korea etc.

 

In fact, this is part of the strategy that is being employed in the UK - try to delay the level of infections until high summer.

UK reaches 28C+ in summer? Rarely.

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[ukrules]

23 minutes ago, Traubert said:

 

You should be aware that you are talking to someone who returned to China Friday night and is now under quarantine for fourteen days. In my city (6.4m people) there is one remaining hospital case and in my province (46.8m people) there are 31 people still in hospital. If you think the Chinese authorities are gullible enough to allow a repeat you seriously both need to think again. This isn't the UK with it's 'if you feel unwell, go home and ring the helpline' this is serious ongoing disease control previously unseen.

We'll see about that in a few months.

 

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, Bundooman said:

So please tell us; Where exactly did you obtain these figures? If your source is China...….:

 

Do you believe for one second that China is going to come clean on this, bearing in mind that it has lied and hidden the truth now on two occasions now. Their 'lockdown' of 40-60 million people may or may not have been successful. Do you really think they will tell the world the truth?

 

The rest of the world is probably unable to do the same, although one country, Italy has now isolated one city. Maybe that might work but western ethical values are different to subservient China. Iran appears unable to cope. India is a disaster possibly waiting to happen and other countries, like this one here now is probably hiding the truth.

 

And what if this virus should develop and deviate from its expected pattern? What then?

I don't deal with speculation, possibly's, probably's, maybe's and fanciful what if's. I deal with the reality of the day. You don't believe China, up to you, but you've no credible reason for that apart from 'they're commies.'

 

Subservient Chinese? There's the hole in your theory, laid out for all to see.

[Traubert]

3 hours ago, rabas said:

Do you think when an infected person with 39⁰C fever sneezes a droplet into your 37⁰C nose or eyes the 27⁰C air will kill it?

And of course this happens all the time at close quarters........

[fraggleRock]

53 minutes ago, DefaultName said:

I've been watching Sky News from the UK and it's scary.  Figures from the government's own experts and the Health Minister;

80% of the population will get it, but most cases will be so mild that they won't even notice, a smaller number will get sick with flu-like symptoms and get better, around 1% will die.

 

1%, not too scary, right?

 

UK population is about 70 Million.

80% of that is 56 million.

1% of that is 560,000.

 

Dead People.

 

Thailand has a similar population number to the UK but health care is inferior.  Yes, I know that there are many excellent hospitals here, but most Thai's will stay with family, so spreading it wider and faster.

 

Scared yet?  Me too.

Its SKY News, so my answer is no.. not scared at all.

Edited March 8, 2020 by fraggleRock