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3 hours ago, webfact said:

Turn your <deleted>-detector dial up to ‘high’.

My BS detector burned out weeks ago.

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then throw the tissue in the rubbish bin.

If your plumbing system allows it, flush the muck down the toilet. Why leave bugs to ferment in your home?

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

As an alternative, use an alcohol-based hand sanitiser with at least 60% alcohol.

Joking, right?

Panic buying means that none of that is available to buy where I live and there aren't even any cases of Corona at all here.

 

I intend to carry on as normal, as what is going to cause even more destruction to society, IMO, is over reaction. Entire industries like tourism, on which millions depend to live, are being destroyed. I have no idea how long this is going to go on, but if millions end up broke and jobless, it's going to be chaos that the government will not be able to talk its way out of.

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3 hours ago, potless said:

My BS detector burned out weeks ago.

 

If your plumbing system allows it, flush the muck down the toilet. Why leave bugs to ferment in your home?

Did you miss where viruses usually don't last long outside a warm body?

 

Most plumbing will clog up and then your toilet won't work. There is a reason only TP should be used in toilets. However feel free to use TP as tissue to blow your nose.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, especially after going to the bathroom

Many people don't normally wash their hands after doing #2- disgusting.

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3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Joking, right?

Panic buying means that none of that is available to buy where I live and there isn't even any cases of Corona at all here.

 

I intend to carry on as normal, as what is going to cause even more destruction to society, IMO, is over reaction. Entire industries like tourism, on which millions depend to live, are being destroyed. I have no idea how long this is going to go on, but if millions end up broke and jobless, it's going to be chaos that the government will not be able to talk its way out of.

Sadly, this is the best we can do- inject some sanity into the situation. I went to the market a few days ago. I saw the beginnings of  hysterical buying (it has been relatively calm where I live). I rejected my impulse to simply buy more stuff, as it is my standard practice to have larger than needed quantities of things like rice, canned food, ramen noodles and bottles of water. People who maintain at least some preparedness for supply disruptions don't need to fall for hysterics.

 

Oh and I notice there's not much mockery of doomsday preppers lately. Seems to me they're ahead of the curve.

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While unquailfied to comment on the epidemiology no one can really now the morbidity rte until the event until later when total casualities are counted.There will also be theissue of misreporting for honest or dishonst reasons.

 

Authoritarian and corrupt regimes unaccountable to free press courts and electors may minimize their mismanagement or hope tourist will not know about their lies and incompetence, institutionalized racism and dual pricing.

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1 minute ago, RubbaJohnny said:

While unquailfied to comment on the epidemiology no one can really now the morbidity rte until the event until later when total casualities are counted.There will also be theissue of misreporting for honest or dishonst reasons.

 

Authoritarian and corrupt regimes unaccountable to free press courts and electors may minimize their mismanagement or hope tourist will not know about their lies and incompetence, institutionalized racism and dual pricing.

I was thinking along the same lines. At this point, it is likely very difficult to tally actual cases versus what we are probably getting- known cases. Then of course I suspect the mortality rate can differ by country based on available health care and response capabilities.

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The response is simple -under 60 get it, get over it; over 60, isolate and rely on the herd-immunity when it's all over. Personally, I'm 65, I'll take my chances. What's the morbidity rate for my age  - 5-6%. I must admit I'm not quite ready to die yet. Need to marry my SO and put in a couple of years for her to get the pension. I dream about that day I can say "This is a good day to die".

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9 minutes ago, timendres said:

It is very likely that natural immunity in a large section of the population will make the significant difference long before a vaccine is widely available

if the genetic mutation of the virus does not change, that’s possible.

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Just now, Tarteso said:

if the genetic mutation of the virus does not change, it is possible.

Excellent point. Some experts are saying that it will become very much like the seasonal flu, with small variations over time making vaccinations complicated, but with a slightly higher mortality rate.

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1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Sadly, this is the best we can do- inject some sanity into the situation. I went to the market a few days ago. I saw the beginnings of  hysterical buying (it has been relatively calm where I live). I rejected my impulse to simply buy more stuff, as it is my standard practice to have larger than needed quantities of things like rice, canned food, ramen noodles and bottles of water. People who maintain at least some preparedness for supply disruptions don't need to fall for hysterics.

 

Oh and I notice there's not much mockery of doomsday preppers lately. Seems to me they're ahead of the curve.

So, on the hand the one hand "Sadly, this is the best we can do- inject some sanity into the situation." and on the other hand "Oh and I notice there's not much mockery of doomsday preppers lately. Seems to me they're ahead of the curve."

Ahead of the curve and insane? 

 

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46 minutes ago, nausea said:

The response is simple -under 60 get it, get over it; over 60, isolate and rely on the herd-immunity when it's all over. Personally, I'm 65, I'll take my chances. What's the morbidity rate for my age  - 5-6%. I must admit I'm not quite ready to die yet. Need to marry my SO and put in a couple of years for her to get the pension. I dream about that day I can say "This is a good day to die".

Its the Boomer Remover Virus !!!

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2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Its the Boomer Remover Virus !!!

Even without Corona, us oldies take up a disproportionate amount of public hospital care. Problem is they just won't let us die of natural causes. Keep filling us up with expensive medicine and even putting us on machines to keep us alive past our use by date.

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5 hours ago, potless said:

My BS detector burned out weeks ago.

 

If your plumbing system allows it, flush the muck down the toilet. Why leave bugs to ferment in your home?

burn it is  better.............gas  mark 6 for 20  minutes

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces using a regular household cleaning spray or wipe. This includes tables, doorknobs, light switches, countertops, handles, desks, keyboards, toilets, faucets, and sinks.

Makes sense if you're a restaurant proprietor... But if it's just me and the wife in our isolated home in the country, why would I be running around with this "out damned spot" routine?

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Most plumbing will clog up and then your toilet won't work.

 

7 hours ago, potless said:

If your plumbing system allows it,

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
7 hours ago, potless said:

 

Did you miss where viruses usually don't last long outside a warm body?

Depends on what virus you are talking about. Sorry I cant provide a link but this study indicates a possible life span of up to 9 days. "sciencealert.com/study-shows-just-how-long-coronaviruses-can-stick-around-on surfaces." As I dont know what I was coughing up last week, or where it came from, I will keep flushing.

 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Many people don't normally wash their hands after doing #2- disgusting.

Totally agree.

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3 hours ago, timendres said:

It is very likely that natural immunity in a large section of the population will make the significant difference long before a vaccine is widely available.

Well I just read in the news in Australia they will have one ready in about

10 days but need some cash injection to produce more. Already tested on a

few patients and it seem to be successful. Cross your fingers.

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2 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

Well I just read in the news in Australia they will have one ready in about

10 days but need some cash injection to produce more. Already tested on a

few patients and it seem to be successful. Cross your fingers.

If you are referring to this announcement:

   https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8110909/Australian-scientists-say-vaccine-deadly-coronavirus-roll-yet.html

 

You might want to note their timeline estimates:

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  • It could see human trials at the University of Queensland in a few months time
  • The injection is currently on track to become available at the end of this year 

 

We are going to hear a lot of declarations regarding vaccines in the coming months. It is researchers crying our for (desperately need, of course) funding. Some will be charlatans and some legitimate. The truth is simple. This is not a simple vaccine to develop, there will be many dead ends, and testing takes serious time. First there is animal testing, then limited human testing, then expanded human testing, then approval processes. Short circuiting any of these steps puts populations at risk.

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