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Hi 

 

I know it’s stupid time to be asking this. But I’m looking at getting my gf over to stay in UK on a six month visa .

 

I dont however have a mortgage. I rent of my mother and I don’t even have any paperwork for this.

 

Is this an automatic NO from the embassy. I earn around 50k a year GBP. She has family ties, a normal job and would have money to get home etc .

 

thanks  

Posted (edited)

Demonstrate your wealth with evidence and your good intent as a sponsor, plus any assets you have or that your gf has in Thailand. 

 

Write a nice cover letter as her sponsor. Say why you want to go.

 

If she has property and a good job here that will help. 

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Posted

I am 27 , I haven’t been earning good money for too long but have around 30k savings. Self employed. 
 

She doesn’t exactly have a good job she works in a beauty salon but it’s not bar work / sex trade. She has a house in sakon nakorn with her mother which I believe is registered in her name. 

Posted

I think you might have to put with Pamela and her five sisters for quite a while!

2 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

I am 27 , I haven’t been earning good money for too long but have around 30k savings. Self employed. 
 

She doesn’t exactly have a good job she works in a beauty salon but it’s not bar work / sex trade. She has a house in sakon nakorn with her mother which I believe is registered in her name. 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

I am 27 , I haven’t been earning good money for too long but have around 30k savings. Self employed. 
 

She doesn’t exactly have a good job she works in a beauty salon but it’s not bar work / sex trade. She has a house in sakon nakorn with her mother which I believe is registered in her name. 

Sorry to say, but I suspect your odds are virtually zero. Follow the advice given above to improve those odds, but get ready for a rejection. I do not know about GB, but for the USA, a rejection works against future applications, so that might be something to also consider.

Posted

When you say that you're "looking at getting my gf over to stay in UK on a six month visa" do you mean that your girlfriend wishes to apply for a visit visa for a short holiday or does she wants to stay in the UK for six months?

 

There's nothing wrong with her applying for a visit visa if she can demonstrate that it's genuine, affordable and that, on the balance of probabilities, she will return home at the conclusion of her holiday.

 

If she's intending to pay her own expenses then all well and good, many Thai people do just that, she will have to prove that she has the funds to do so. If you're intending to pay for the trip then it's you that has to prove the affordability, and that it's reasonable for you to do so.

 

If she's asking for a visa for a short holiday, then the decision maker will take some convincing during the current climate on restrictions in the UK and even for Thai people returning home.

 

If she's intending to stay in the UK for the full six months then she will need even more compelling reasons, she will also need to show some robust ties to Thailand, including permission from her employers for an extended leave of absence.

 

My gut feeling is that in the days and weeks to come there will be similar restrictions on travel, even with a visa, and the issuing of visas, to the UK as there is to Schengen, the US and many other countries around the globe.

 

I think your girlfriend would be better waiting to see how all this Covid issue develops before planning such a trip.

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@theoldgit Thanks for you reply . I think initially it would be for a holiday. If she likes it and we can see a future then we would have to think about something more long term (although this is seeming more and more impossible ).

 

If it was a “visit” visa as you mention above , what is the longest she could stay for - I thought it was six months ?  
 

Yes, this trip will have to be after the boarder restrictions / covid calms down. Just seeing as I may be locked down for a month , it may be a good time to get the ball rolling.

 

Do you see the lack of mortgage as a problem?

 

Thanks again !

Posted
24 minutes ago, HerbyJFlash said:

If it was a “visit” visa as you mention above , what is the longest she could stay for - I thought it was six months ?  

 

Yes, Standard Visit Visas are routinely issued with a validity of six months, and in theory such a person could stay in the UK for the full duration of that entry clearance.

 

There are a couple of caveats to the whole process however, when she applies she will be asked to state the reason and duration of her proposed trip and with evidence to back it up.
If she says she's intending to visit for what most people would describe as a reasonable length of holiday, a few weeks, maybe a month at the most, and supplies genuine reasons to return, her employment for instance, then quite possibly her visa would be issued.
A visa would probably be for a six month validity, and whilst she wouldn't be in breach of Immigration Rules if she stayed the full six months, it would cast doubt of her credibility in any future application.

Also, if on arrival at the UK Border the Border Force Officer asked her for sight of her return ticket and she showed one for six months hence having originally stated she intended to stay for a few weeks she could be refused admission citing a material change of circumstances.

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6 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

Hate to mention it again but do you see the mortgage thing being a problem? Both if she was visiting for a short holiday and if we eventually wanted a long term arrangement.

 

There is no requirement for a sponsor to have a mortgage, not everybody has one.

 

When your girlfriend applies for her standard visit visa she will have to satisfy the Entry Clearance Officer, the decision maker, that she has somewhere suitable to stay for the duration of her trip. If she's going to stay with you then provide a short letter of invitation to stay at the property, briefly describing the accomodation available during her holiday. I'm assuming you have an informal arrangement with your mother for the accomodation, in which case maybe your mother could draft a short note about the informal arrangement and that she's content for her to stay with you. If you intend staying at a hotel, you will need to satisfy the ECO that you have the means to do so.

 

The most important part of her application is to convince the ECO that, on the balance of probabilities, she will leave the UK by the date outlined in her application, so it's imperative that she demonstrates her ties to Thailand, accomodation, employment and the like.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by a "long term arrangement", a standard visit visa is just that a visa that allows the holder to visit the UK for a holiday or business, and whilst they can be issued with a six month, two, five or ten year validity, the longer term visas are for people who can demonstrate they have a compelling reason to visit the UK on a regular basis, not those seeking a long term arrangement. If you are thinking of a fiance or settlement visa then there are specific rules regarding accomodation and finances surrounding these.   

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@TheOldBell Thanks for you reply and apologies for the delay.
 

In response to “If you are thinking of a fiance or settlement visa then there are specific rules regarding accomodation and finances surrounding these“

 

Where can I find these specific rules ? Do you have a link at all?

 

Anything would be greatly appreciated!

Posted
7 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

Where can I find these specific rules ? Do you have a link at all?

 

This is the guidance for accomodation, I've attached the Financial Requirements.

 

Guidance for Part 2: Your Accommodation 

2.1 Where do you and your sponsor plan to live in the UK? Please provide the full postal address of where you intend to live in the UK

2.2 Does your sponsor own this property? Put a cross in the relevant box. Please provide evidence of this e.g. Land Registry document or Mortgage statements. If the answer is ‘No’ then state on what basis your sponsor occupies this property. For example rented, owned by parents

2.3 Does your sponsor live in a council owned property? Put a cross in the relevant box

2.4 Is you sponsor in receipt of Housing Benefit and/or Council Tax Benefit? Put a cross in the relevant box. If ‘Yes’ please provide full details of when this allowance started and how much is received per month.

2.5 How many bedrooms are there in the property? Please provide details as requested.

2.6 How many other rooms are there in the property (NOT including kitchens, bathrooms and toilets)? Please provide details as requested.

2.7 Does anyone, other than your sponsor, live in the property? Put a cross in the relevant box. If yes please provide full details including full name, date of birth, relationship to sponsor

2.8 Do you intend to work in the UK? Put a cross in the relevant box. If ‘Yes’ please tell us what you intend to do and give details of any employment you have already arranged.

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/733638/VAF4A-Appendix2-08-18.pdf

Appendix_FM_1_7_Financial_Requirement_Final.pdf

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