Special Report: Doctors embrace drug touted by Trump for COVID-19, without hard evidence it works

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Special Report: Doctors embrace drug touted by Trump for COVID-19, without hard evidence it works

By Michael Erman and Deena Beasley

 

A woman holds a hydroxychloroquine prescription in Seattle, Washington, U.S. March 31, 2020. REUTERS/Lindsey Wasson

 

NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The decades-old drug that President Donald Trump has persistently promoted as a potential weapon against COVID-19 has within a matter of weeks become a standard of care in areas of the United States hit hard by the pandemic — though doctors prescribing it have no idea whether it works.

 

Doctors and pharmacists from more than half a dozen large healthcare systems in New York, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Ohio, Washington and California told Reuters they are routinely using hydroxychloroquine on patients hospitalized with COVID-19. At the same time, several said they have seen no evidence that the drug, used for years to treat malaria and autoimmune disorders, has any effect on the virus.

 

Use of hydroxychloroquine has soared as the United States has quickly become the epicenter of the pandemic. More than 355,000 people in the United States have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, and more than 10,000 have died. The federal government estimates that as many as 240,000 people in the country may die from the disease before the outbreak is over.

 

Facing those numbers, and in the absence of any known effective treatments, doctors on the frontlines said they began using hydroxychloroquine and the related chloroquine on patients who are deteriorating based on a few small studies suggesting a possible benefit. Some said they had come under pressure from patients to use the therapies widely touted by Trump and other supporters.

 

“I may take it,” Trump said on Saturday, referring to hydroxychloroquine, though he has twice tested negative for coronavirus, according to the White House. “We’re just hearing really positive stories, and we’re continuing to collect the data.”

 

Potential side effects of hydroxychloroquine include vision loss and heart problems. But doctors interviewed by Reuters say they are comfortable prescribing the drug for a short course of several days for coronavirus patients because the risks are relatively low and the therapies are inexpensive and generally available.

 

However, protocols directing how these drugs should be used vary from one hospital to another, including when to introduce them and whether to combine them with other drugs. In addition, some studies showing promise involve patients who took the therapies for mild or early-stage illness. Many of those people are likely to recover from the virus on their own.

 

Patients admitted to the hospital in the United States are generally much sicker than the mildly ill cases cited in such studies when they receive therapy. These factors, doctors said, have made it difficult for them to determine whether the drugs are making a difference. “I have seen hundreds of patients with severe COVID and most of these people are on hydroxychloroquine,”

 

Dr Mangala Narasimhan, regional director of critical care at Northwell Health, a 23-hospital system in New York, said in an email. “In my opinion, although it is very early, I do not see a dramatic improvement from the hydroxychloroquine in these patients.” Dr Daniel McQuillen, an infectious disease specialist at Lahey Hospital & Medical Center in Burlington, Massachusetts, said he has prescribed a course of hydroxychloroquine for about 30 COVID-19 patients so far because the drug has shown "a little bit of antiviral activity." But he has not seen "marked improvement for patients."

 

“Anecdotally, it may have had limited effect in patients with milder disease,” McQuillen said. The therapy “has had no effect in limiting or slowing progression of our patients that have been at or near ICU level when they arrived.”

 

‘SEE WHAT STICKS’

The experience of David Lat, a legal recruiter and commentator who founded the blog Above the Law, reflects the mixture of hope and uncertainty surrounding the drugs now being pursued as possible coronavirus treatments.

 

Since early March, the 44-year-old New Yorker has chronicled his near-fatal infection with coronavirus in social media posts followed by thousands of people. Lat’s case has resonated with a U.S. audience that has begun to recognize the risk that coronavirus poses not only to elderly patients with serious medical conditions, but also to generally healthy younger adults.

 

After more than a week of worsening symptoms, Lat was admitted to NYU Langone Medical Center on March 16 and later placed on a ventilator.

 

On March 28, he shared on Facebook that his doctors had taken him off of the ventilator and had moved him out of intensive care after his condition improved dramatically.

 

In an exchange of text messages with Reuters, Lat said he was treated with hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin. He also received two therapies known as interleukin-6 inhibitors that help regulate an overreaction by the body’s immune system thought to trigger the respiratory distress seen in severe COVID-19: the arthritis treatment Kevzara and the experimental compound clazakizumab.

 

“The doctors haven’t concluded what caused my recovery,” Lat said. “The state of coronavirus research is very much ‘throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks’ – but when something does stick, in terms of a good patient outcome, you’re not sure what stuck.” Lat’s doctors were not immediately available to comment on his treatment.

 

Some doctors have been vocal in advocating the drug. Dr Vladimir Zelenko, a general practitioner in upstate New York, has claimed that a three-drug cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc sulfate has helped mitigate the infection in nearly 200 hundred of his patients before they became sick enough to require hospitalization. His recommendations have attracted the attention of Trump’s supporters. Zelenko wasn’t immediately available for comment.

 

Despite such encouraging reports, hard evidence that any of the therapies now under study will work is weeks and possibly months way.

 

Early, but mixed, data has emerged from COVID-19 trials of the malaria drugs in China. A research team in Marseilles, France, has published data showing that out of 80 mild COVID-19 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, 93 percent had no detectable levels of the virus after eight days.

 

Doctors have questioned the value of the Marseille study and several papers from China as being too small or poorly designed to offer hard evidence of benefit. Most do not compare outcomes of patients who received the malaria therapies with people who did not, considered the most reliable measure of a drug’s effectiveness.

 

Last week, doctors in Paris reported that they tried to replicate the results of the Marseille study and failed. Results from a trial conducted in Wuhan, China, were released that included a control group of patients who did not receive the anti-malarial therapy for comparison. But critics questioned why information on the trial’s main goal -- detecting viral load -- was not disclosed, and said data was missing for some patients.

 

More rigorous U.S.-led trials are now underway. But most focus on whether the drugs can help prevent illness in people exposed to the coronavirus, such as healthcare workers or relatives of confirmed patients, and not people who are already sick. Randomized, controlled trials of the drugs are being conducted in other countries, including China, Brazil and Norway.

 

Until the evidence is in, "each institution is setting their own treatment guidelines," said Dr Otto Yang, an infectious disease specialist at the University of California, Los Angeles Medical Center. "There is simply no data,” he said. “It is a matter of opinion, and opinions differ."

 

GAME-CHANGER?

Trump is deeply invested in the idea that the malaria drugs will show a benefit, and personally pressured federal health officials to make them available, Reuters reported on Saturday. The president announced on Twitter last month that hydroxychloroquine, when combined with azithromycin, has the potential to become “one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.”

 

In late March, the Department of Health and Human Services accepted donations of millions of doses of the drugs from manufacturers Novartis AG and Bayer AG. “President Trump is taking every possible step to protect Americans from the coronavirus and provide them with hope,” HHS Secretary Alex Azar said in announcing delivery of the doses to the U.S. Strategic National Stockpile, which houses medical and other supplies needed to address pandemics or biological threats.

 

Several of Trump’s top health officials, including Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, frequently caution that it is too early to promote hydroxychloroquine until results from more rigorous trials are available. While some studies suggest a benefit, “we’ve got to be careful that we don’t make that majestic leap to assume that this is a knockout drug,” Fauci told cable network Fox News on Friday.

 

The Food and Drug Administration has not approved hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment, but the agency has provided an emergency use authorization for the anti-malarial drugs to be used in clinical trials or for hospitalized patients when a doctor deems it appropriate.

 

“We have not taken a stance, nor are we, on whether doctors should prescribe it,” FDA Commissioner Dr Stephen Hahn told Fox News last week. “We're providing facts and information about the risks and benefits, but that really is and should be a doctor-patient decision.”

 

The sudden, unexpected surge in demand for the drugs to treat coronavirus is coming at a cost to the many patients who take them regularly to treat the debilitating symptoms of autoimmune disorders like lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

 

Within hours of Trump’s initial endorsement on March 19, pharmaceutical supply chain experts reported shortages as doctors began prescribing hydroxychloroquine for themselves and their families. Vizient Inc, which works with about half of the country's hospitals to buy drugs, told Reuters that orders for hydroxychloroquine jumped to around 1.8 million tablets per day in late March, up from an average of around 40,000 tablets per day in late January.

 

“For many lupus patients, (hydroxychloroquine) is a life saver,” patient advocacy group Lupus LA wrote in an emailed statement. “These patients are now having trouble accessing their medication, putting them in a dire situation.”

 

Several U.S. states and health insurers are taking steps to limit prescriptions, while Trump issued an executive order on March 23 to keep Americans from hoarding or price gouging.

 

OTHER OPTIONS

While the antimalarial approach, and its vocal advocates, are dominating headlines, doctors are still hopeful that one or more of the other therapies being tested will begin to show success.

 

UCLA and Northwell are among more than three dozen medical centers participating in clinical trials of Gilead Science's experimental antiviral remdesivir, which was previously tested as a treatment for Ebola but failed to show effectiveness. Initial data from a separate trial of the drug in China could be announced this month.

 

"We feel like the hierarchy in terms of the evidence to support its use starts with remdesivir, then to hydroxychloroquine, and then it sort of rapidly deteriorates after that," said Dr Arun Sanyal, a professor at Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine.

 

Some are keen to see whether blood plasma from recovered coronavirus patients will spur immunity in others -- a method used more than 100 years ago. The FDA recently authorized expanded use of such donated plasma by hospitals across the country. McQuillen of Lahey Hospital said that approach has a good chance of succeeding.

 

Others have focused on the potential of more advanced biologic medicines to quell the processes that put the body’s immune system into overdrive in severe COVID-19 cases.

 

In fighting off the virus, the immune systems of these patients set off a so-called “cytokine storm,” releasing molecules into the blood that can cause dangerously high blood pressure, lung damage and eventual organ failure.

 

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals and Sanofi SA are testing the arthritis drug Kevzara, or sarilumab. Roche has begun trials of Actemra, also known as tocilizumab. Both of them are IL-6 inhibitors, as is clazakizumab, under development by privately-held biotech Vitaeris Inc.

 

Novartis plans a study of its drug Jakavi, or ruxolitinib, which can also help dial down a cytokine storm, in severe cases of COVID-19.

 

“That’s where you’re going to see the most trials in the next month or two,” said Dr Kevin Tracey, CEO of Northwell Health’s research arm. “There are a lot of drugs that target the body’s reaction, rather than the virus itself.”

 

(Reported by Michael Erman in New York and Deena Beasley in Los Angeles. Additional reporting by Alison Frankel. Edited by Michele Gershberg and John Blanton.)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-07

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[UbonThani]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

drug for a short course of several days for coronavirus patients because the risks are relatively low and the therapies are inexpensive and generally available.

Key phrase

Low risk for most people

Give it to them early for a few days

Mostly upside

[UbonThani]

8 minutes ago, webfact said:

There are a lot of drugs that target the body’s reaction, rather than the virus itself.”

Another key point. Over reaction by weak immune system kills people. So if the drug plays a helping role combined with other care it's not "useless" as some claim.

[Crazy Alex]

Odd... normally, the usual suspects tell us to listen to the experts. Obviously, Trump did. But since Trump listened to experts and thinks the drug may help, the usual suspects jerk their knees and complain. Pretty sad if one really thinks about it.

[Tug]

Let’s all hope it’s helping and not harming 

[parafareno]

so they will give this, plus 2 very strong antibiotics plus 2 aids drugs.....good luck surviving sideeffects...

[Gweiloman]

I took a dose and as a result, didn’t contract the virus. Thanks Oh Great Stable Genius. You saved my life. 

[jimmjam]

Need to keep giving money to the big pharma companies some how.

 

[Steven Brothers]

Results of Doctors using Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine with and without Azithromycin and Zinc

 

 

February 17^th 2020 China Officials from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology have said clinical trials show a conventional anti-malarial drug is effective in treating coronavirus patients. Commission said early diagnosis and treatment are an effective approach, which is reflected in the declining number of severe cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBjKRitNedk

 

 

March 18^th 2020 USA Zinc and Chloroquine as a treatment for South Koreans? Low death rate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIymfznD7YA

 

 

March 23^rd 2020 France French expert says this is a very promising treatment for COVID-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXEy7Mdyhb0

 

 

March 24^th 2020 India ICMR Prescribes Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 cases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J2voLoMdp8

 

 

March 25^th 2020 USA 3 Ways Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine may help fight corona virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkPdwlhI8A

 

 

March 27^th 2020 USA Doctors speak out in USA about Chloroquine:

 

 

March 28^th 2020 USA Dr. Vladmir Zelenko of New York says of 699 patients treated, he has had ZERO deaths, ZERO intubations, and four hospitalizations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJdjhd_XG8&t=586s&fbclid=IwAR0GVZ-MgpmwU_Oxj9mFNt0ZKZ1so1HLuBLPYTziX8WMAP4LEPvw-DI54Jg

 

 

March 29^th 2020 Italy They will start mass treatment with Hydroxychloroquine. The drug “is already giving good results,” Bartoletti says . Give the drug early before pneumonia sets in for best result. “So hopefully UK, US and other countries will now learn from Italy and get this early treatment out there before deaths reach Italy levels or even more for USA as they will if people are not treated, but with early treatment this should be contained as in South Korea and many other countries where they have been giving early treatment from nearly the very beginning.”

https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/italy-finally-starts-mass-treatment-with-hydroxychloroquine

 

 

March 29^th 2020 Malaysia Chloroquine, a drug used for malaria, has been used to treat Covid-19 patients since the first wave of the outbreak in Malaysia and shown its efficacy, says Health director-general Datuk Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah. He explained that the number of deaths due to the virus had increased as the patients were either elderly, had comorbidities such as high blood pressure and kidney disease, or those who sought treatment at a later stage or after they began having breathing difficulties.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2020/03/29/chloroquine-used-to-treat-covid-19-patients-since-first-wave-says-health-d/1851457

 

 

March 31^st 2020 USA US FDA authorizes anti malarial drugs for use on corona virus cases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6cW97ixAs

 

 

April 1^st 2020 USA, France, South Korea, China Reports from around the world are pouring in that the drug hydroxychloroquine is proving to be a powerful treatment in the fight against the coronavirus. One America's Pearson Sharp has more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=NyDjJ5ytc54&feature=emb_logo

 

 

April 2^nd 2020 China Chinese randomized controlled study of Hydroxychloroquine treatment for COVID-19

Early treatment with Hydroxychloroquine helped the Chinese control the spread and lower infection rate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtuZYPPAzI

 

 

April 2^nd 2020 Sermo Survey of 6,200 Doctors in 30 countries reveals Hydroxychloroquine was overall chosen as the most effective therapy amongst COVID-19 treaters from a list of 15 options (37% of COVID-19 treaters)

https://www.sermo.com/press-releases/largest-statistically-significant-study-by-6200-multi-country-physicians-on-covid-19-uncovers-treatment-patterns-and-puts-pandemic-in-context/

 

 

April 3^rd 2020 China (Fox News) More analysis on the above Chinese study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQJEJG_P8YQ

 

 

April 4^th 2020 China More analysis on the above Chinese study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obhLH_D7GMg

April 4^th 2020 USA Update on Doctors results in USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3NDMPxTA_k

 

 

April 5^th 2020 USA President Trump telephones Prime minister Modi of India to request large quantity of Hydroxychloroquine tablets to treat COVID-19 patients in the US. Says Hydroxychloroquine was helpful in treating nearly 1500 New York COVID-19 patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3dzBoDd5WM

 

 

Summary of These Videos and Articles (my opinion)

 

Increasingly many doctors around the world are treating COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine. It is the most used treatment for COVID-19 in the world.

In some countries with low infection and low death rates like China (if accurate), South Korea, Malaysia it is a recommended treatment.

Those countries not using the malaria drugs early during the first wave of infections and early before a patients pneumonia sets in seem to have higher infection rates and higher death rates.

Many doctors report helpful results from their experience or clinical trials such as: quicker recovery times, reduced pnuemonia, less intubation, less worsening of the disease and less hospitalization and death.

Many doctors now feel the hydroxychloroquine is even more effective with zinc supplements and/or z pak.

 

Perhaps Dr. Pier Luigi Bartoletti says it best: Dr. Pier Luigi Bartoletti, Deputy National Secretary of the Italian Federation of General Practitioners, explains: The drug “is already giving good results” ... “every single person with Covid-19 that has early signs, like a cough or a fever for example, is now being treated with the anti-malaria drug. We have just understood that the virus has an evolution in two phases and that it is during the second phase, after a few days (about a week), that the situation can suddenly, in 24 or 48 hours, worsen and leads to respiratory failure requiring intensive care.”

 

“The results that we are starting to accumulate suggest that hydroxychloroquine administered early, gives the possibility of avoiding this evolution in a majority of patients and is also helping us to prevent hospitals from filling up.”

[thaipo7]

Because President Trump expressed this drug may be a treatment after being told about it by experts, and we all know how stupid he is, this shouldn't even be tried.  More deaths in America are good for the Left.  Party First.  On one of my first trips to Thailand I was urged to take the Malaria drug.  I read the side effects and one was, "May cause blindness."  I refused the drug for that reason.  How many GIs took it in Vietnam?  There is nothing President Trump can do that would win approval from the Left.  If he could walk on water, the media would print this to mean that he can't swim. He can't win on anything.  Period.

[J Town]

People have died taking this drug without first getting advice from a doctor. Turns out Trump has financial ties to this drug. Heavy sigh . . .

[DoctorG]

4 minutes ago, J Town said:

People have died taking this drug without first getting advice from a doctor. Turns out Trump has financial ties to this drug. Heavy sigh . . .

You have some reference for the people dying thing?

Genuinely interested.

[DoctorG]

I guess the true test for anybody bagging this drug combo is to ask themselves if they had COVID would they ask their doctor to try it?

[J Town]

6 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

You have some reference for the people dying thing?

Genuinely interested.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-as-treatment/

 

There are others if you research yourself. While this example is only one person, sure would be a drag if that person was you.

[sanuk711]

19 minutes ago, J Town said:

Turns out Trump has financial ties to this drug. Heavy sigh . . .

Well please print it..........because as far as i know I haven't read  this accusation anywhere...

 

 

And People dying phase......that usually means more that 1.........

[sanuk711]

12 minutes ago, J Town said:

There are others if you research yourself.

You research it................your stating it as fact, that it kills people. While  so many medical opinions are saying the opposite.

 

I guess your give us your finding on all the dead people latter............maybe

 

 

,

 

 

Edited April 7, 2020 by sanuk711

[J Town]

6 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Well please print it..........because as far as i know I haven't read  this accusation anywhere...

 

 

And People dying phase......that usually means more that 1.........

https://truthout.org/articles/hydroxychloroquine-company-had-million-dollar-contract-with-former-trump-lawyer/

[rabas]

30 minutes ago, J Town said:

People have died taking this drug without first getting advice from a doctor. Turns out Trump has financial ties to this drug. Heavy sigh . . .

220 million malaria sufferers per year not including millions more on prophylactic doses, would degree with your medical analysis based on Trump Trump.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, rabas said:

220 million malaria sufferers per year not including millions more on prophylactic doses, would degree with your medical analysis based on Trump Trump.

They took it for malaria under doctor's orders. People taking it cuz Trump said so are practicing medicine without a license.

[Crazy Alex]

24 minutes ago, J Town said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-as-treatment/

 

There are others if you research yourself. While this example is only one person, sure would be a drag if that person was you.

Cause and effect? Oh and about those financial ties. Link?

[DoctorG]

21 minutes ago, J Town said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-as-treatment/

 

There are others if you research yourself. While this example is only one person, sure would be a drag if that person was you.

Man, I was hoping that you actually had a real case instead of some dumbo taking something just because it had the word chlorine in it.

There are further developments to this particular story. Turns out she was a Hillary contributor not a Trump supporter, and that she had previously assaulted and possibly try to murder, her husband.

 

[Crazy Alex]

6 minutes ago, J Town said:

They took it for malaria under doctor's orders. People taking it cuz Trump said so are practicing medicine without a license.

Hydroxychloroquine is a prescription drug. As such, they'd be taking it because a doctor prescribed it, not because Trump said so. Doctors are licensed.

[sanuk711]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/truth-out/

Fact Check on "Truthout"..........who you quote from.

 

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When your not busy looking for another person to add to your death toll of 1 ...you may like  to unscramble the words

 

People---Straws---at----Grabbing .......

 

[rabas]

20 minutes ago, J Town said:

https://truthout.org/articles/hydroxychloroquine-company-had-million-dollar-contract-with-former-trump-lawyer/

"The drug in question, hydroxychloroquine, has been touted by some doctors overseas as being successful in treating symptoms and COVID-19 itself, but other studies have shown minimal evidence of its effectiveness. "

 

Your truthout.org ? article is already wrong at the top. Chloroquine has been studied in detail for 17 years since the SARS-1 outbreak as an antiviral. I bought my first batch 3 weeks before Trump's comment, after in depth study.  There were no negative comments about chloroquine until the MSM took aim at Trump. Now the world is so flooded with fake news that I must:

 

    google "<chloroquine info of interest> -Trump " or

    google "<chloroquine info of interest>" time= before Trump comment

 

to find accurate information. Good luck trying to find any truth from MSM or Russia.

Edited April 7, 2020 by rabas

[Gweiloman]

9 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Man, I was hoping that you actually had a real case instead of some dumbo taking something just because it had the word chlorine in it.

 

I fully agree with you that they were a dumb couple. For listening to Trump lol. Same same all those others who believes anything he says. 

[UbonThani]

37 minutes ago, J Town said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-news-arizona-man-dies-after-taking-chloroquine-drug-touted-by-trump-as-treatment/

 

There are others if you research yourself. While this example is only one person, sure would be a drag if that person was you.

People die from drinking water

 

U want to.ban water?

[Gweiloman]

5 minutes ago, rabas said:

"The drug in question, hydroxychloroquine, has been touted by some doctors overseas as being successful in treating symptoms and COVID-19 itself, but other studies have shown minimal evidence of its effectiveness. "

 

Your truthout.org ? article is already wrong at the top. Chloroquine has been studied in detail for 17 years since the SARS-1 outbreak as an antiviral. I bought my first batch 3 weeks before Trump's comment, after in depth study.  There were no negative comments about chloroquine until the MSM took aim at Trump. Now the world is so flooded with fake news that I must:

 

    google "<chloroquine info of interest> -Trump " or

    google "<chloroquine info of interest>" time= before Trump comment

 

to find accurate information. Good luck trying to find any truth from MSM or Russia.

Fauci lies as well then?

[Gweiloman]

7 minutes ago, rabas said:

"The drug in question, hydroxychloroquine, has been touted by some doctors overseas as being successful in treating symptoms and COVID-19 itself, but other studies have shown minimal evidence of its effectiveness. "

 

Your truthout.org ? article is already wrong at the top. Chloroquine has been studied in detail for 17 years since the SARS-1 outbreak as an antiviral. I bought my first batch 3 weeks before Trump's comment, after in depth study.  There were no negative comments about chloroquine until the MSM took aim at Trump. Now the world is so flooded with fake news that I must:

 

    google "<chloroquine info of interest> -Trump " or

    google "<chloroquine info of interest>" time= before Trump comment

 

to find accurate information. Good luck trying to find any truth from MSM or Russia.

Seems you know more than Fauci. Wonder why you aren’t on the WH podium instead of him. 

[UbonThani]

14 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Hydroxychloroquine is a prescription drug. As such, they'd be taking it because a doctor prescribed it, not because Trump said so. Doctors are licensed.

Correct

All over the world

Overseas doctors dont listen to Trump

They look at the science

[tifino]

1 minute ago, UbonThani said:

16 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Hydroxychloroquine is a prescription drug. As such, they'd be taking it because a doctor prescribed it, not because Trump said so. Doctors are licensed.

Correct

All over the world

Overseas doctors dont listen to Trump

They look at the science

Thomas Dolby (initials TD) magically decades ago mirrored the future!

 

 - roll ahead to now; 

and DT can exclaim that:  '... she blinded me-with science...'