WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 They should have sunk the Iranians. With Napalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Pedrogaz said: I assume the Iranian boats were in Iranian waters and the US was 'testing their defences' by ignoring their sovereignty over those Iranian waters. The United States patrols international waters and has no need to venture into Iranian waters. As someone who has served in the area I can tell you for fact Iran regularly puts their own ships and planes at risk by testing US resolve in international waters. The US Navy should sink them next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: They should have sunk the Iranians. With Napalm. Obama would have let them board our ship and hold our sailors at gunpoint. Oh wait a minute... he DID do exactly that. My bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Matzzon said: Yeah, i will suppose that Iranian wessels are more normal and have much more right to be in the gulf, than a couple of American warships. Maybe they should consider that factor before complaining. Another possible action would also be to leave the Gulf. Its not about complaining. Its about small craft performing dangerous maneuvers in vicinity of US warships which causes said warships to in turn take evasive actions including putting missiles at the ready and possibly firing up Fire control radars, or missiles on rail in case of Iranian aircraft. That kind of threat that causes a ship to go to General Quarters, and prepare for battle is not funny, as the potential exists for human beings to be evaporated in a matter of seconds followed by all that paperwork. Iran does this regularly to test US resolve. One turn the wrong way and dead people result. Complaints about such behavior happen for reason. And its international waters and a Nation that plays such games in International waters takes risks with their own people. I hope the equally disgusting and foolish CCP cease their games in the South China Sea as well. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, lannarebirth said: I assume the US Naval vessel was in International Waters, as is their right. I also assume that the Iranian vessels were either in International Waters or Iranianian sovereign waters, which is their right. If the Iranian vessels were truly a threat, I have no doubt the USN would have fired on them. It is a non story. Hopefully it enhanced the learning of the USN officers in command in understanding what is and is not a threat. I am a Ret Navy Chief. Its not a non-story. A ship that has to take evasive maneuvers, go to General quarters, man its weapons, and or fire up fire control radars, put missiles on rail, and attempt to hail a potential threat while watching their every move, knowing they are in international waters is....pretty serious.... and the Iranians....and Chinese play this dangerous game all the time, one move the wrong way results in dead people. Edited April 16, 2020 by WalkingOrders Sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 That’s a dangerous game trump desperately needs a distraction rite now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: And its international waters US military sees it as international waters, but that changed 1972. Guess they have not been updated. Referring to post #21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted April 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: International waters. Nope! It´s only USA that refuses to recognized a territorial shiftment of Oman in 1972. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tug said: That’s a dangerous game trump desperately needs a distraction rite now The game of playing with US forces in international waters eventually leads to the offending ships being sunk. Keep your eyes open for news out of the South China Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Nope! It´s only USA that refuses to recognized a territorial shiftment of Oman in 1972. Keep siding with regimes that torture and murder their own people while stifling their freedoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Nope! It´s only USA that refuses to recognized a territorial shiftment of Oman in 1972. Factually incorrect. The UK also has ships in the Persian Gulf. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49144717 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Matzzon said: US military sees it as international waters, but that changed 1972. Guess they have not been updated. Referring to post #21 International waters. And if they keep playing they will die needlessly and rest on the bottom of the sea. All because of a rotten to the core Ayatollah! Edited April 16, 2020 by WalkingOrders punctuation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, lannarebirth said: I've never met an Iranian I didn't like, although their leadership is horrendous. I'd say the same about America but I've met plenty of Americans I haven't liked. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, canthai55 said: Then stand up for it when it is being threatened, or when those in power abuse and ignore the provisions enshrined therein ... Instead of this moronic blustering cry heard around the World Wow, all these posts over a story of Iranian boats encroaching on a US vessel? I hope you can at least understand why some observers may find this logic quite bizarre. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: Factually incorrect. The UK also has ships in the Persian Gulf. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49144717 Okey! I stand corrected. Then it´s the US and UK that has problems understanding the territorial borders. Oh yes! I forgot. You and WalkingOrders as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Okey! I stand corrected. Then it´s the US and UK that has problems understanding the territorial borders. Oh yes! I forgot. You and WalkingOrders as well. You don't stand corrected you stand on the side of Tyranny and lies and can't recognize the good guys from the bad. You support the Iranian regime and other similiar regimes like the CCP despite all of your feigned pretense of standing for truth. You just rail against all that attempt to hold back really really evil powers in this world. Don't try to call me out into your skewed world vision again. I have no time to deal with those ignorant of geostrategic relationships, grand strategy, foreign relations, or history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: Wow, all these posts over a story of Iranian boats encroaching on a US vessel? I hope you can at least understand why some observers may find this logic quite bizarre. It almost seems like a job for them. Like they punch some weird Party approved clock and then begin posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 hours ago, webfact said: Coast Guard ships in the Gulf Since when is the Gulf a USA Coast? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: You don't stand corrected you stand on the side of Tyranny and lies and can't recognize the good guys from the bad. You support the Iranian regime and other similiar regimes like the CCP despite all of your feigned pretense of standing for truth. You just rail against all that attempt to hold back really really evil powers in this world. Don't try to call me out into your skewed world vision again. I have no time to deal with those ignorant of geostrategic relationships, grand strategy, foreign relations, or history. Don't hold back. I think you should write strongly about your feelings!! ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: I am proud to come from a country with a constitution, an independant judiciary, elected law making bodies, and recurring elections. So, other countries does not have a constitution? That must be something that only lives in your mind. Regarding everything else you wrote. What you have right now is president Trump with a standing action: "Do like I say or get fired!". You talk about independency. Are you thinking about freedom too? Are you calling it the land of the free and the home of the brave? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Keep your distance, 1.5 meters is safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Since when is the Gulf a USA Coast? The USN patrols to keep sea lanes open against oppressive regimes like Iran that fires on innocent civilian shipping and the CCP in the South China Sea which has tried to claim the entire South China Sea as theirs, and regularly threats neighboring countries civilian fishing and other commercial vessals. Obviously I am dealing with yet another person who is either ignorant of - or condones such behavior. Yet another who supports such regimes while finding fault in Western Democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: You don't stand corrected you stand on the side of Tyranny and lies and can't recognize the good guys from the bad. You support the Iranian regime and other similiar regimes like the CCP despite all of your feigned pretense of standing for truth. You just rail against all that attempt to hold back really really evil powers in this world. Don't try to call me out into your skewed world vision again. I have no time to deal with those ignorant of geostrategic relationships, grand strategy, foreign relations, or history. Ah, the old 'if you're not with us you're against us' nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: You side with tyranny. You side with the Iranian regime which has repeatedly open fired on international shipping attempting free transit of the gulf, and you side against the USA which simply patrols to keep free passage open to all. A disgusting shameful position to hold. No, I do not side with tyranny. I am just of the nature that I believe that the presence of USA in all places they do not belong, is something that leads to conflicts which they of course are quick to point out that they solve when something happens. The question is, would it have happened without the provokative presence of a country that needs to control the world? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: Ah, the old 'if you're not with us you're against us' nonsense. Yeah man. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WalkingOrders Posted April 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Matzzon said: No, I do not side with tyranny. I am just of the nature that I believe that the presence of USA in all places they do not belong, is something that leads to conflicts which they of course are quick to point out that they solve when something happens. The question is, would it have happened without the provokative presence of a country that needs to control the world? Ah there he says it: "I believe that the presence of USA in all places they do not belong, is something that leads to conflicts..." Such as international waters keeping sea lanes open to international shipping so guys like this can enjoy the sweet fruits of our risk. All the while crying about it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said: A confirmation. There we have it. Advance him to Comrade Level II. See you have some humour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 hours ago, JohnOFphon said: The U.S. ships issued several warnings through bridge-to-bridge radio, blasts from the ships' horns and long-range acoustic noise maker devices. What was the noise maker? Did someone fart into a microphone? Maybe they played one of the 1 to 2 hour so-called 'national virus situation press briefings' by Trump to drive them mad or make them laugh so hard they lost control of the vessels while peeing themselves hahahahahahaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted April 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) So there we have it.. two gentlemen (sic) airing their differences in a sane and dignified manner, without a shred of animosity or haughtiness. Great to see. haha!! Edited April 16, 2020 by couchpotato 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crazy Alex Posted April 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Matzzon said: Okey! I stand corrected. Then it´s the US and UK that has problems understanding the territorial borders. Oh yes! I forgot. You and WalkingOrders as well. Why do you think a single country can change the definition of international waters? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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