offset Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, BobbyL said: Under 1 death per million in Thailand. Those numbers they're releasing don't warrant a lockdown or curfew. Maybe the lockdown is the reason for so many few deaths also Thai hospitals have been trying to fight the virus in the sick people not like other countries that have only just started to do this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fondue zoo Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 Can someone post the link to the official testing details, numbers etc please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 The believers in these nonsensical figures will be believing the last election was free from rigging too by now. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hanssna Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jip99 said: Were you not still paying them? Fortunately, you are in Thailand without the employee responsibilities that attach to Western businesses. Fortunately we're in Thailand ? In Holland the government pays 90% of the wages of laid-off staff. Here me and my wife both lost our jobs in the Hotel - tour industry. No wages. We also run a little restaurant, which has 0 business at the moment. So we also had to let go of our staff, and keep one living in in a basic fee, since we make no money and lost our jobs as well. Don't know how you can compare these two totally different places / situations. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post offset Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: The believers in these nonsensical figures will be believing the last election was free from rigging too by now. What makes you say that, there are 9 provinces with no reported cases why do we not hear from anybody from these provinces saying one of their families have had the vires, also up to yesterday 35 provinces have not had 1 reported case in over 14 days. I live in 1 of these provinces and my wife works in a restaurant doing take away food and she as not heard of anybody that knows somebody with the virus and she does ask people and Thai gossip is much quicker than any government news 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ABCinSG Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 Today morning traffic is almost back to normal, and I am concerned. While the number of new cases are falling, those are new cases, which means people STILL are getting infected daily. Considering that the incubation period is 2 - 4 weeks, and how many gatherings there has been since, I'm afraid there might be a big spike coming soon. A new spike after the lifting of the lockdown and curfew will certainly be detrimental to the world's view of Thailand's management of the virus. I'd rather hurt a little longer and ensure that there are no new cases before the lifting of the lockdown. Because if there's another outbreak, I can guarantee you that the next lockdown will be a lot more restrictive and longer. Wouldn't waiting another month be better then having to wait another 2 or 3? I'm not financially well off. The tour company I work in started only a year ago, and just as we started reaping the benefits of our hard work, it all went down the drain. For the past 2 months in a row, we have earned exactly 0 THB. I'm frustrated, I've got a massive pay cut, I've cut down on my expenses and I'm living on a razor's edge, and I know it will get worse if another lockdown comes into effect. So I understand how difficult it is. I know there are people way worse off than me, but it could go a lot worse if this isn't managed carefully. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totally thaied up Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) How are they going to control this. Open up the borders say to Countries like America that do not have it under control and your going to get a spike in numbers again. Only takes a few boxing ring events to get this all off and started again. How can this virus ever be contained. Like I said yesterday, any Government is between a rock and a hard spot. Edited April 20, 2020 by totally thaied up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 And now this on the AFP website On-off social distancing may be needed until 2022: Harvard study There are still a lot of unknowns about the virus unfortunately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ukrules said: Singapore had the situation under control for a while until all those migrant workers who stay in very cramped dorms started to get it, then it spread like wildfire. 100's of people packed in like sardines 10 to a room sleeping on bunkbeds. Do we have any cramped dorm like conditions in Thailand? I'm sure the government are all over this issue now they've seen what can happen in Singapore. Construction work camps is what I'm referring to here. Singapore in general still has it under control. Only the migrant worker camps are an issue and they wete sealed off in pretty quick order. thailand could well have the same issue, as you say, but if they don’t get tested we will never know. Very few will go to hospital, many are illegals and certainly no money to pay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Singapore in general still has it under control. Only the migrant worker camps are an issue and they wete sealed off in pretty quick order. thailand could well have the same issue, as you say, but if they don’t get tested we will never know. Very few will go to hospital, many are illegals and certainly no money to pay. Thailand testing is showing less that 2% being infected in people that go to hospital thinking they have the virus so who do you think they should test all 77 million people 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mr Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 working towards that lucky number 9 i see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, offset said: What makes you say that, there are 9 provinces with no reported cases why do we not hear from anybody from these provinces saying one of their families have had the vires, also up to yesterday 35 provinces have not had 1 reported case in over 14 days. I live in 1 of these provinces and my wife works in a restaurant doing take away food and she as not heard of anybody that knows somebody with the virus and she does ask people and Thai gossip is much quicker than any government news How would they know they had the virus if there is no testing????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, offset said: Thailand testing is showing less that 2% being infected in people that go to hospital thinking they have the virus so who do you think they should test all 77 million people Ignorance is bliss 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post offset Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: How would they know they had the virus if there is no testing????? I keep asking but nobody answers me so you may be able to answer me. who do you test or are you suggesting to test the whole population? Most countries only test those that think they have the problem and contact personal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Singaporean health officials this afternoon reported a huge surge in newly detected coronavirus infections. 1,426 newly reported cases. The debunks the heat theory! Edited April 20, 2020 by Canuck1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Canuck1966 Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, offset said: I keep asking but nobody answers me so you may be able to answer me. who do you test or are you suggesting to test the whole population? Most countries only test those that think they have the problem and contact personal Even if somebody is showing symptoms, especially outside a large town/city they are just given a bag of pills and told to go home. Then if they deteriorate and die the cause of death would be lung infection/pneumonia, NOT Chinese flu, as they would not have been tested That could easily be 10,000+ people Edited April 20, 2020 by Canuck1966 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: Ignorance is bliss Yes true but an over reaction can also be very expensive and bad use of manpower that could be used for more important uses like looking after sick people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post offset Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: Even if somebody is showing symptoms, especially outside a large town/city they are just given a bag of pills and told to go home. But 98% of people they do test with symptoms show negative sometimes you have to trust people that know more than yourself 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, offset said: I keep asking but nobody answers me so you may be able to answer me. who do you test or are you suggesting to test the whole population? Most countries only test those that think they have the problem and contact personal Random testing in all provinces is the only way to go, it gives a much better level of validity than we have now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post offset Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Random testing in all provinces is the only way to go, it gives a much better level of validity than we have now. Yes I was thinking that myself that it might be a good idea but starting with the 9 provinces that have not had any cases yet working through the other provinces that not had the virus for a long time to see a comparison 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said: Why has the formatting of the official daily statistics changed. In the beginning the top figs were reconciled to the bottom with numbers in private and govt hospitals + people who had been sent home The more recent reports don't show this and have different information. Obfuscation?? Be happy that there still are reports. They seem to condense into smaller, soon not to be visible to the human eye. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, offset said: Yes I was thinking that myself that it might be a good idea but starting with the 9 provinces that have not had any cases yet working through the other provinces that not had the virus for a long time to see a comparison William Aldis the former WHO chief in Thailand also made this recommendation for this approach in Thailand, its published in the Bangkok Post today so no link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offset Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: William Aldis the former WHO chief in Thailand also made this recommendation for this approach in Thailand, its published in the Bangkok Post today so no link. oh I not look at that paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: Your last sentence is the big question mark. I'm all for getting back to some normalcy. But if the gov opens the borders now and lets all manner of visitors in, that could be a little dicey. How would they even do that? Still many hot spots around the world, including the USA, UK, etc....not to mention China. Entertainment venrues, concerts, bars, international travel will be the last things to resume. I expect international travel to be halted for at least a year, based on what is happening overseas. Thailand should keep its borders locked until the infection rate is diminsied to a manageable level. Domestic tourism should be the focus after that, until the borders are opened. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck1966 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time" Abe never visited Thailand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, DavisH said: Thailand should keep its borders locked until the infection rate is diminsied to a manageable level. Average of 30 per day !! What is a manageable level ?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DavisH Posted April 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, offset said: But 98% of people they do test with symptoms show negative sometimes you have to trust people that know more than yourself That's right - even those who are considered 'at risk' are tested and most are negative. Randomly testing the population is a waste of time. That's a different situation in Italy, UK, NY, etc, where the probablity of finding positive cases is much higher. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time" Abe never visited Thailand Never visited TV, or so it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, cornishcarlos said: Average of 30 per day !! What is a manageable level ?? It depends on where the cases are occuring. Many provinces have less than 10 recorded cases, and many people in those areas are not so strict with social distancing/masks etc. Bangkok and surrounding provinces need to reduce their levels, further in my opinion. 30 cases can quickly escalate in precautions are not taken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney42bb Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Anybody got 10 Baht to drop in The Honesty Box??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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