What’s next for (some of) us?

[Zikomat]

Let’s imagine there will be no new infected cases in TH in June and July. But the country, almost certainly, will still remain locked for the outside visitors. The government will not prolong a visa waiver (why should they?) and those of us on tourist visas and exempt stamps will have to leave the country without any option to prolong our legal stay here. This is the most likely scenario, in my opinion. Any alternative thoughts or the mass exodus in August is inevitable?

[tonray]

If you're a tourist why wouldn't you be planning to leave....no time for an extended vacation

[Zikomat]

2 minutes ago, tonray said:

If you're a tourist why wouldn't you be planning to leave....no time for an extended vacation

With the number of tourists down to historical minimum - would it be a wise decisions to wipe out the remaining ones? 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

With the number of tourists down to historical minimum - would it be a wise decisions to wipe out the remaining ones? 

And tell me how and why those of us who live here as expats on extensions and have family here would be evicted on a whim, as you think may happen.  Please explain your reasoning behind your thought process on this.  If what you say would ever happen, this country would be crippled tremendously, as if it has not already been crippled economically. 

[Zikomat]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

And tell me how and why those of us who live here as expats on extensions and have family here would be evicted on a whim, as you think may happen.  Please explain your reasoning behind your thought process on this.  If what you say would ever happen, this country would be crippled tremendously, as if it has not already been crippled economically. 

I am only talking about those on tourist visas and exempt stamps.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Zikomat

[poohy]

Many of us split our time between here and elsewhere this will make such lifestyles much more difficult especially with or if Thailand continues it requirement  covid insurance etc

 

 

[Zikomat]

In the past one could go to Laos or Cambodia and to get another tourist visa. This is something that will be impossible in the August. Meaning the only option left will be to leave the place. 

Edited May 4, 2020 by ubonjoe
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[gearbox]

8 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

I am only talking about those on tourist visas and exempt stamps.

Currently it is not feasible to go out of the country to grab a new visa and just come back - the old visa run methods are broken.

Hopefully the Thais would continue to extend the visas otherwise you'll be in a bit of trouble not only to stay but also to leave - the repatriation flights are getting less and less and at one point the governments will stop subsidising them.

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

In the past one could go to Laos or Cambodia and to get another tourist visa. This is something that will be impossible in the August. Meaning the only option left will be to leave the place. 

What makes you think it will not be possible in August.

There is no indication at this time I have seen that it will not be possible.

[ubonjoe]

Some off topic, nonsensical and inflammatory posts have been removed.

[Keyser Soze666]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

What makes you think it will not be possible in August.

There is no indication at this time I have seen that it will not be possible.

Joe - my last entry stamp on my 1 yr non O based on marriage is June 13th..there isn't much point in getting a 60 day ext on that at immigration, is there?

[Zikomat]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

What makes you think it will not be possible in August.

There is no indication at this time I have seen that it will not be possible.

 

It MAY be impossible. The fact is - it’s impossible at the moment. Something will have to change on both sides of the border to make that option available again.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

Joe - my last entry stamp on my 1 yr non O based on marriage is June 13th..there isn't much point in getting a 60 day ext on that at immigration, is there?

No need to do the extension since you are allowed ot stay until July 31st. You could apply for the 60 day extension shorley before the July 31st so you would not have to leave the country for a new entry.

[AtlasAus]

Too many assumptions.

 

What makes you think there would be flights to your home country ? 

 

Too many unknowns at this time. True tourists I suspect have already gone home before they ran out of money.... The others will have to wait and see I guess....

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

 

It MAY be impossible. The fact is - it’s impossible at the moment. Something will have to change on both sides of the border to make that option available again.

If the borders are not open by August then they might extend the current "amnesty" IMO the will open before August unless Laos and Cambodia have a high infection rate then.

[Keyser Soze666]

13 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

No need to do the extension since you are allowed ot stay until July 31st. You could apply for the 60 day extension shorley before the July 31st so you would not have to leave the country for a new entry.

Oh, I didn't realise you could do it like that. Glad I asked now. Cheers.

[Zikomat]

23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

If the borders are not open by August then they might extend the current "amnesty" IMO the will open before August unless Laos and Cambodia have a high infection rate then.

This is an interesting moment. While the Thais may be somehow sure about their own numbers (or at least pretend that they do) - why should they believe the Cambodian or Lao numbers (especially with a clear knowledge that their own numbers are fake) ? The trust element will be quite low between the countries in the near future. I personally don’t see the borders fully open any time soon.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Zikomat

[vermin on arrival]

24 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

If the borders are not open by August then they might extend the current "amnesty" IMO the will open before August unless Laos and Cambodia have a high infection rate then.

If they open, won't we be required to have covid free certificates and 100,000USD insurance? Of course, who knows...

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

This is an interesting moment. While the Thais may be somehow sure about their own numbers (or at least pretend that they do) - why should they believe the Cambodian or Lao numbers (especially with a clear knowledge that their own numbers are fake) ? The trust element will be quite low between the countries in the near future. I personally don’t see the borders fully open any time soon.

Maybe because I do not have the same opinion about the numbers here.

You also have to remember there's a lot of the trade between those 2 countries plus a large number of migrant workers from them.

[andy72]

I think the whole point is where the hell can we go

there are few countries that are open at current times to outsiders

By August forget repatriation if youve not made it back yet your not getting back

 

We can only hope that everyone opens their borders after a bit of time

 As far as insurance goes that is just going to be impossible so dont know how they can work that

https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/international-travel-document-news/1580226297.htm

 

bookmark that URL its updated daily

Currently the UK is letting in foreigners has virtually been the only country doing so without checks without quarantine and they wonder why the midlands area is rife with virus 
 

the uk really screwed it up

 

and if there is no amnesty on visas then its OVERSTAY basically what other option is there

 

 

[RichardColeman]

1 hour ago, Zikomat said:

and those of us on tourist visas and exempt stamps will have to leave the country without any option to prolong our legal stay here. This is the most likely scenario, in my opinion. Any alternative thoughts or the mass exodus in August is inevitable?

I'm currently trapped in the UK unable to get back to Thailand.

 

I am more than happy to replace you in Thailand on your expired tourist visa with my retirement extended one

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

If they open, won't we be required to have covid free certificates and 100,000USD insurance?

At this time that requirement does not exist. It was dropped when they stopped passenger flights from arriving. 

Nobody knows what will be needed when they start allowing flights in again.

[Keyser Soze666]

26 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

Oh, I didn't realise you could do it like that. Glad I asked now. Cheers.

So I get this right if I apply say on the 28th July will they give another 60 days from that date or will still it still be 60 days from the last entry stamp (June 13th) so up to aug 11 approx

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

So I get this right if I apply say on the 28th July will they give another 60 days from that date or will still it still be 60 days from the last entry stamp (June 13th) so up to aug 11 approx

From the day you apply for it or July 31st (not sure which they will do).

[JackThompson]

I doubt those of us who applied for our 60-days already - when there Was No auto-extension at the time - but whose entry-date was LATER covered in the "amnesty" - won't be getting another 60-day exension.  A refund would be nice, at the least, but that's dreaming.  All we can do, is hope can go out for a new visa and get back in before the auto-extension period ends. 

 

I tend to agree that the financial-need for tourists, combined with the greed of businesses who won't pay wages high-enough to get Thai workers, makes border-openings more likely sooner than later.

[scorecard]

But don't underestimate the pressure from powerful ruthless people to get tourism rolling quick and at full speed.

[Jim P]

4 hours ago, Zikomat said:

With the number of tourists down to historical minimum - would it be a wise decisions to wipe out the remaining ones? 

Shouldn`t you be trying to go home if your a tourist?

 

[at15]

3 hours ago, Zikomat said:

 

It MAY be impossible. The fact is - it’s impossible at the moment. Something will have to change on both sides of the border to make that option available again.

The fact is incoming foreign arrivals are set to begin June 1, something will have to change for that not to be the case. 

 

Edited May 4, 2020 by at15

[1FinickyOne]

4 hours ago, Zikomat said:

would it be a wise decisions to wipe out the remaining ones?

you mean like mass extermination? 

 

Or are you thinking that Thailand should mourn your individual loss of business? 

[gearbox]

40 minutes ago, at15 said:

The fact is incoming foreign arrivals are set to begin June 1, something will have to change for that not to be the case. 

 

Where did you get that fact from? I haven't seen any announcements about the resumption of the international flights.