Chomper Higgot Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 ‘Citing no evidence’. Nuff said. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Australia and New Zealand reacted quickly. A total of 118 deaths for both countries, 4 deaths per million population. Get real. Both countries have easily closed borders as surrounded by sea. That's the single thing, IMO that made a difference. Far as death numbers are concerned, a country full of people with no immunity locked down, and that may change when lockdown is ended. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Get real. Both countries have easily closed borders as surrounded by sea. That's the single thing, IMO that made a difference. Far as death numbers are concerned, a country full of people with no immunity locked down, and that may change when lockdown is ended. That doesn’t make sense. The Immigration closure happened after the disease had already crossed the respective borders. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Get real. Both countries have easily closed borders as surrounded by sea. That's the single thing, IMO that made a difference. Far as death numbers are concerned, a country full of people with no immunity locked down, and that may change when lockdown is ended. If you want reality, Morrison declared COVID-19 a pandemic even before the WHO did. That's on record. Herd immunity isn't working too well for the nations that are trying it, such as Sweden. 291 deaths per million. Please explain the difference to me between locking down for coronavirus, and quarantine for swine fever, which would decimate the pork industry if it ever got loose in Australia and New Zealand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Get real. Both countries have easily closed borders as surrounded by sea. That's the single thing, IMO that made a difference. <snip> Like the UK you mean? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Lacessit said: <snip> Herd immunity isn't working too well for the nations that are trying it, such as Sweden. 291 deaths per million. <snip> Long term it may work very well, since they managed to avoid the much feared health system overload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, stevenl said: Long term it may work very well, since they managed to avoid the much feared health system overload. Looks to me America has the double whammy - herd immunity non-existent, hospitals past breaking point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevenl said: 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: <snip> Herd immunity isn't working too well for the nations that are trying it, such as Sweden. 291 deaths per million. <snip> Long term it may work very well, since they managed to avoid the much feared health system overload. Yes some countries run out of hospital beds, others run out of vulnerable people to sacrifice. Edited May 7, 2020 by Susco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted May 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2020 Trump is a frightened man. Behind the bombast and bluster, he knows history is against him. Wartime leaders and leaders who preside over recessions usually get short shrift from an electorate. He is frightened because he also knows if he doesn't get re-elected, every law enforcement body in the country is going to be examining all his financial dealings for the slightest whiff of criminal activity. The Democrats will be cheering them on. He certainly has not given the FBI, Justice Department, and CIA any reason to love him. History also shows frightened men are not noted for making good decisions. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 A personal attck has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Redoubt said: "Citing no evidence..." Who produces this inane stuff? It is more than abundantly clear that the DNC, Pilosi, Schumer, Nadler, et al., are overtly obsessed with targeting the President of the USA with everything negative imaginable, including the proverbial 'kitchen sink', if it has any chance of preventing him from succeeding in protecting and positively serving the very best interests of 'America and Americans'. What is stunning is that these opposing 'forces' are apparently seeking failure to enable them to acquire future power. If any scenario is repulsive to logic of public governance this equation certainly is to sober men. To even think for a second that these 'forces' are not targeting President Trump is more than naive. It is ludicrous indeed. Name one dem or dem surrogate including their (as reported)propaganda machine cabal that has given credit to the task force or Mr. Trump for their efforts ! Can you! Edited May 7, 2020 by riclag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, riclag said: Name one dem or dem surrogate including their (as reported)propaganda machine cabal that has given credit to the task force or Mr. Trump for their efforts ! Can you! Credit for inaction and incompetence? Or credit for his re-election speeches disguised as covid briefings? Edited May 7, 2020 by stevenl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 hours ago, riclag said: Name one dem or dem surrogate including their (as reported)propaganda machine cabal that has given credit to the task force or Mr. Trump for their efforts ! Can you! https://www.newsweek.com/dem-lawmaker-says-trump-saved-her-life-recommending-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-1496469 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Lacessit said: Please explain the difference to me between locking down for coronavirus, and quarantine for swine fever, which would decimate the pork industry if it ever got loose in Australia and New Zealand. Are you saying PEOPLE would be locked down for swine fever? I don't understand what point you are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Off topic posts and replies about illegal immigration have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 He’s doing a good job failing all by himself I don’t think he needs any help from the democrats sad but true 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 1:25 PM, Mama Noodle said: So 3 years ago we were the leader of the free world, but now we aren’t. And if we elect a democrat as president, we will resume being the leader of the free world? NO if an elected person with competence was to enter the WH, maybe, just maybe, USA may be able claw back some credibility. This is about competence (Competence is the ability to do something well or effectively). Not something the current incumbent is noted for. (I will not mention disinfectant) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tug said: He’s doing a good job failing all by himself I don’t think he needs any help from the democrats sad but true It is the one thing he seems to excel at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 22 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: That doesn’t make sense. The Immigration closure happened after the disease had already crossed the respective borders. There is also increased testing going on, yes there will be more notified cases as the restrictions are lifted, but the system will not be overwhelmed, and due to good observation of restrictions, along with social distancing there has been very little community clusters, two major exceptions (RACF and a meat works) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: There is also increased testing going on, yes there will be more notified cases as the restrictions are lifted, but the system will not be overwhelmed, and due to good observation of restrictions, along with social distancing there has been very little community clusters, two major exceptions (RACF and a meat works) Beware, Pence is doing some double-talk about testing these days. He may say "tests were done" and goes on to say that assuming that they were processed to get the results of them would be an error on YOUR part. If this doesn't make sense to you then you get the point. He said it at one off those press conferences in the past week or 2, there vids of it out there. The GOP stance on testing, coming down from the top, is that less testing means less known cases. The spineless fall in line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, bendejo said: Beware, Pence is doing some double-talk about testing these days. He may say "tests were done" and goes on to say that assuming that they were processed to get the results of them would be an error on YOUR part. If this doesn't make sense to you then you get the point. He said it at one off those press conferences in the past week or 2, there vids of it out there. The GOP stance on testing, coming down from the top, is that less testing means less known cases. The spineless fall in line. My response was in response to a post on Aust and NZ, not USA. I am not surprised at nonsensical musings from within WH, happens by osmosis I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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