Fund set up amid claims 83 year old Brit was held prisoner near Bangkok while Thais siphoned off his pension

[kingofthemountain]

16 minutes ago, Boycie said:

The story has been updated on https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/d-theodore

 

 

All the money raised so far should be held and not released, until it is known if this is a scam or not?

In the ''storyboard'' by the ''rescuer'' write

 

''This afternoon have spoken to the British conuslate in Bangkok , and have been advised to seek help from family members , and friends back in the Uk , they also mentioned setting up a go-fund me campaign . Sad to see that after many years fighting for Queen and Country , when in your hour of need , it seems the wheels of support turn very slowly . sad but true SO HERE WE ARE'' 

 

imo It should be very intersting to find a way and see if the British consulate in Bangkok can confirm this one, if someone on TV have a contact please ask

them

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by kingofthemountain

[NoComment]

mmmm, held in captivity.

How did "Declan James Theodore" know where to find him?

If true, I hope the money raised will genuinely be used to  get "Ron" repatriated.

Good luck to you "Ron".

[mrfill]

No sign of any story like this in any of the UK press. Nothing in the Liverpool Echo, who would revel in a story like this. There is also a massive hole between the video (made before he did the 'rescue') and his pics on FB of some old bloke in bed. How did he release the hostage from the evil gang? Perhaps he's too modest to mention.

[kingofthemountain]

3 minutes ago, NoComment said:

mmmm, held in captivity.

How did "Declan James Theodore" know where to find him?

Yes this is one of the questions

of course the ''rescuer'' answer himself in his storyboard

for some reasons he has decided to not answer this important question!

 

'' 

There was other related situations that this poor man found himself in. But I prefer not to go into that

Anyhow we tracked down this old soldier and when I made my way into the room where he was being kept , to be asked * 

 

''

[kingofthemountain]

6 minutes ago, mrfill said:

No sign of any story like this in any of the UK press. Nothing in the Liverpool Echo, who would revel in a story like this. There is also a massive hole between the video (made before he did the 'rescue') and his pics on FB of some old bloke in bed. How did he release the hostage from the evil gang? Perhaps he's too modest to mention.

This ''storie'' really stinks

if at the end the scam is revealed i hope at least the britain consulate 

can sue this guy in a court and stop his bad behaviour here in Thailand

[kingofthemountain]

29 minutes ago, Boycie said:

All the money raised so far should be held and not released, until it is known if this is a scam or not?

i hope so

[Anant72]

Such sad cases should not lead us to generalize. There are good and bad people everywhere. Thailand is neither better nor worse than any other country. You have to keep your wits about you. 

[asiaexpat]

4 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Thais know they can do what they want to foreigners without recourse from the police/law

Truly repugnant quagmire of a place

And your evidence is what, in my experience those that report crimes get investigations and in many cases convictions. 

[Cranky]

4 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Thais know they can do what they want to foreigners without recourse from the police/law

Truly repugnant quagmire of a place

Take it you don't live in Thailand then?

[TPUBON]

4 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Thainess

Like it doesn't happen anywhere else.

[digger70]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

"Declan James Theodore" claimed that he drove to Samut Sakhon near Bangkok where he found the desperate pensioner being held in a grubby room upstairs.

Me Think there's Something very wrong here .How did DJT Know where Ron was Held Captive. The rest of this Fable/story is also very Dodgy . 

[Abmong]

40 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

Yes this is one of the questions

of course the ''rescuer'' answer himself in his storyboard

for some reasons he has decided to not answer this important question!

 

'' 

There was other related situations that this poor man found himself in. But I prefer not to go into that

Anyhow we tracked down this old soldier and when I made my way into the room where he was being kept , to be asked * 

 

''

Dodgy AF. We can't even be sure if this "Declan" isn't actually "The Klan" and the one holding the old timer hostage. Or if the man being held hostage at all. Nothing in the photos even indicates he's in Thailand. The man in the 1st photo and the 2nd may not even be the same person... You can't tell for sure since the face was blurred in the 1st.

[Andrew65]

1 hour ago, Abmong said:

This sounds like a scam. He could have just gotten the guy out of there or called the police. The British Embassy with repatriate the man for free if he wants to go home to the UK. Why would they need £2000

"The British Embassy with repatriate the man for free if he wants to go home to the UK".

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

[Abmong]

4 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Me Think there's Something very wrong here .How did DJT Know where Ron was Held Captive. The rest of this Fable/story is also very Dodgy . 

Just noticed. DJT... Donald J Trump? I bet it's a scammer/troll

[dunroaming]

5 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

Maybe he doesn't even exist.

 

Nice easy 1,000 quid made from 10 minutes of creating a Fund Me page? 

I can hear the booing from the side lines over this post.  However in Thailand one becomes very cynical and in the country of a thousand scams every story should be viewed with an air of suspicion until proved to be sound.  The story of Ron is not unique and there are many people being taken advantage of for their money.  And not just Thai's against foreigners.  There are plenty of scams going down in the Thai community as well.

 

Before someone starts shouting that it can happen anywhere, yes of course it can, but this thread is about Thailand and something that has happened here. 

[dunroaming]

17 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

"The British Embassy with repatriate the man for free if he wants to go home to the UK".

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

The British Embassy can arrange for re-patriation but not always without cost.  It will depend on the person's ability to pay now or later.  

[Miss Pickle]

Poor old Guy he probably arrived in Thailand when it was the land of smiles.I bet he is not the only OAP living like that in Thailand.

[Andrew65]

37 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

The British Embassy can arrange for re-patriation but not always without cost.  It will depend on the person's ability to pay now or later.  

What I've heard is that they contact your friends or relatives and ask them to deposit money into a bank account, which is then used to buy a ticket. Can't blame them really. many people develop amnesia about repaying once they arrive back home.

 

Also, I think there are many retirees living in Thailand who can barely afford to be there, especially if a large medical bill shows up.

[DaRoadrunner]

4 hours ago, elliss said:

The old timer , should have made his way home to the UK , years ago .        

What is there to go back to? Sit there and wait for the end in a care home?

[pixelaoffy]

6 hours ago, giddyup said:

Ridiculous prejudiced comment.

Ah. It's true. Kinda annoys some giddydown

[Thomas Hannah]

6 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

In the video it is alleged that the Thais have him prisoner and they are using his ATM card to withdraw his pension. 

 

Let's see what transpires.

Nothing will happen.thai culture.farangs are there to be robbed.cheated etc.Watch what is said.Familys fault for not protecting him,etc etc etc.Welcome to thailand.And dont say it is the same in the rest of the world.Difference is police would investergate and charge people with theft.

[saakura]

Several years ago, i remember hearing about an aged pensioner with dementia kept in a cage sort of outhouse on a remote farm in the boonies, with food thrown in. His aged ex-bar girl wife was living with her alcohol addicted 'brother' in the main house which the pensioner had built for her with his savings. He would be escorted out only for his visa renewals, while they had the ATM card to his bank account which was receivibg his pension. 

[saakura]

39 minutes ago, Miss Pickle said:

Poor old Guy he probably arrived in Thailand when it was the land of smiles.I bet he is not the only OAP living like that in Thailand.

The Poor old Guy would have arrived full of smiles having heard that he can get girls as young as his grandaughter. I bet he is not the last OAP to wash up on the shores of Thaiand, and end up like this.

[elliss]

40 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

What is there to go back to? Sit there and wait for the end in a care home?

 

 What is there to stay in Thailand for,  when you are elderly ?. 

   No care homes ,  No health service for the sick , No benefits for those in need .

     Paradise . for sex tourists sure. once upon a time.  Nothing lasts forever sure. 

 

    PS , if you don't have money in Los , nobody cares about Aliens.

    Just make sure , you dont give your PIN  to anyone including,  your nearest and dearest ...

         

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by elliss

[elliss]

5 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

We will never hear anything about this issue again is far more likely.

 

 Aka , TV forum , fodder , 555

[choff56]

7 hours ago, giddyup said:

 I suppose you'll never see an elderly pensioner being scammed in a western country.

<deleted> was I kicked out of the Thai centric forum back into the Western one again! I hate when that happens.

[Susco]

3 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

imo It should be very intersting to find a way and see if the British consulate in Bangkok can confirm this one, if someone on TV have a contact please ask

them

 

I'm pretty sure the British consulate is well aware of this story, probably only a few hours after it first appeared on FB.

 

If there is anything smelly there will most likely a new story soon.

 

The other post on the Cambodian FB group is indeed worrying, as I don't think there are 2 people in the world with such a name.

 

What sounds very strange to me is why professional scammers would go in the public light, since I understand that Declan posted it himself on FB, for the relatively small money involved.

 

He could have started the gofundme without giving so much publicity to it.

[nausea]

So as a guy who didn't go into foreign countries and kill people I'm worth nothing. Live with it Nausea, live with it. Should've joined the Foreign legion, at least the French would like me.. 

[kingofthemountain]

27 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

I'm pretty sure the British consulate is well aware of this story, probably only a few hours after it first appeared on FB.

 

If there is anything smelly there will most likely a new story soon.

 

The other post on the Cambodian FB group is indeed worrying, as I don't think there are 2 people in the world with such a name.

 

What sounds very strange to me is why professional scammers would go in the public light, since I understand that Declan posted it himself on FB, for the relatively small money involved.

 

He could have started the gofundme without giving so much publicity to it.

If nobody informs the consulate about this story, there is no specific reason 

they are aware of this, particularly at the moment with the virus crisis they are

probably very busy with a lot of very important things.

 

All the story is very strange, i mean you find a story on internet about a concern for a family member in Thailand (Not your family, just a random stranger) you have no details but you decide to rescue the guy (You are probably not busy at the moment and it's usual for you to rescue people) and in very few days you know where he is and you are able to go alone and save him from the 3 floor of a building where he was detained by a lot of Thais? And of course you don't want the police being involved and you don't want to give any details about all of this, but the first thing you do is to open a gofundme to buy a ticket for the man?

 

Come on i am the only one here to think the white knight is triying to sell a Thai version of the movie ''Taxi driver'' with him as De Niro in the final scene? 

 

For your last question It's probably not a real professional scammer, he probably tought it would be easy, small money can be done in few hours and usualy doesn't attrat attention plus the risks are low in case of failure.

The publicity given was probably to do it quickly, then disapear untill the next story or opportunity.

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by kingofthemountain

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