Statue of scout founder Baden-Powell to be taken down in Britain

[sawadee1947]

22 hours ago, steve187 said:

getting out of hand now, there will nothing left of Britain's past, which can not be undone, the past is the past 

if there is nothing worth to keep....throw it away. Why not?

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

The reality is that there are numerous posts/pages in support of the statues coming down and also theres more to it of just statues coming down , you make it sound like the Government announced the removal of there non descript  statues .

  You are twisting the reality

Me, twisting reality ????

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Burma Bill said:

Yes I agree, but it was a personal suggestion. Perhaps it should be surrounded with a steel cage and razor wire.  

No it shouldn't, the police should stop this kind of wanton violence and destruction, it is not up to the police which crimes they deal with and which they don't. 

What do we say to a bunch of privileged middle class wanabee Che Guevaras, 'we surrender!' it has to be dealt with democratically, not them pulling everything down that offends them, we all have a say, never forget that, do not succumb to the mindless mob.

[Burma Bill]

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

do not succumb to the mindless mob.

Yes , I totally agree, but if you arrest, try and sentence members of the mindless mob, I am certain there will be many more members joining the mindless mob which will grow and grow to continue their beliefs.

[paddypower]

25 minutes ago, vogie said:

No it shouldn't, the police should stop this kind of wanton violence and destruction, it is not up to the police which crimes they deal with and which they don't. 

What do we say to a bunch of privileged middle class wanabee Che Guevaras, 'we surrender!' it has to be dealt with democratically, not them pulling everything down that offends them, we all have a say, never forget that, do not succumb to the mindless mob.

You may have hit the nail on the head, when you say 'brainwashed the youth'. i believe that we are seeing a rejection of much that was held sacred; nobility and robber barons who are/were never noble; military who lead millions into death, to support beliefs such as slavery, religiousity; you name it. By and large, governments have shown that they are not very competent in defending their citizens against all manner of ills. What is being torn down are representations of what does not matter, to many people today; if you are fearful, homeless, jobless, disenfranchzed; the list is endless. The world will never be the same. It is time to get used to it.

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[tribalfusion001]

Statues boarded up in London, no need for the football thugs to turn now. I doubt those statues will see the light of day in months with Khan in charge. Game, set and match to the protesters.

[metisdead]

Some more trolling/baiting posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Kadilo]

10 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

. Game, set and match to the protesters.

Good replacement for Wimbledon. 

[vogie]

13 minutes ago, paddypower said:

You may have hit the nail on the head, when you say 'brainwashed the youth'. i believe that we are seeing a rejection of much that was held sacred; nobility and robber barons who are/were never noble; military who lead millions into death, to support beliefs such as slavery, religiousity; you name it. By and large, governments have shown that they are not very competent in defending their citizens against all manner of ills. What is being torn down are representations of what does not matter, to many people today; if you are fearful, homeless, jobless, disenfranchzed; the list is endless. The world will never be the same. It is time to get used to it.

Whichever way you wish to look at it, we cannot let a few mindless idiots dictate to the majority of the country, and they won't. But please spare me the socialist lecture, if Labour were any good they would have been in power a long time ago.

[FarangULong]

23 hours ago, steve187 said:

getting out of hand now, there will nothing left of Britain's past, which can not be undone, the past is the past 

Every credible historian (and other experts) say(s), that you cannot apply modern day morals & values on historical figures. That people MUST be viewed within the context of their times.

 

I mean what's next? Remove statues of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, because they owned slaves? BTW you can now go to prison in Britain, for likening Israel to Nazi Germany... while the comparison is extreme, it's still only speech. And they are practicing Apartheid, to some degree, and oppressing/killing Palestinians.

 

Anyway, more and more people are doing this <deleted>. Spitting on historical figures, due to what I call "temporal chauvinism". Applying their own moral values, on people who lived a century or even many centuries ago. That is utterly retarded. We are all children of our times.

 

This is exactly the kind of <deleted> I mean - in part - with what I said about "where will all this craziness end", in a couple of my comments in the Black Lives Matter (should be more like Thug Lives Matter, with most of these deaths) thread...

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[Loiner]

11 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Yes , I totally agree, but if you arrest, try and sentence members of the mindless mob, I am certain there will be many more members joining the mindless mob which will grow and grow to continue their beliefs.

The courts are on overtime, so keep the sentencing in full flow. Fines too - most of the middle class kids can afford it and we need all the finances we can get to repair the statues.
Love it when the kids find their new criminal records affect their job prospects. Travel plans of all ages of activist will be severely restricted too - no more gaap yeahs!

[nausea]

Means nothing, the battle was won a long time ago, the overt racism I saw in my youth is long gone. As is the overt sexism. Like a dog with a bone, they don't know when to let go. Of course, it's pretty much risk free nowadays, where were you when these were real issues. I admit I was a coward, I disagreed but didn't voice my opinion. More shame to me. In retrospect,  I was foreshadowing these developments. If I had my time again I'd call out the homeophobes and the racists, but if wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets.

[CorpusChristie]

26 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Statues boarded up in London, no need for the football thugs to turn now. I doubt those statues will see the light of day in months with Khan in charge. Game, set and match to the protesters.

Whats the word from the Ant Theethers , where are they planning to destroy next ?

What are their next targets ?

[tribalfusion001]

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Whats the word from the Ant Theethers , where are they planning to destroy next ?

What are their next targets ?

Decolonize school curriculums and have balanced history lessons.

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Decolonize school curriculums 

What does that mean ?

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

What does that mean ?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/mar/20/academics-its-time-to-get-behind-decolonising-the-curriculum

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

How about this one

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907179/BBC-racism-diversity-Radio-1-Newsbeat-discrimination-internship-journalism-Open-Access

Do you feel this is racist

Please read the link. 

[CorpusChristie]

15 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Decolonize school curriculums and have balanced history lessons.

Which means removing White males from the workplace , studying Black African philosophers and ignoring White philosophers and teaching an alternative view of history .

  Hitler tried that with the Jews

[wwest5829]

23 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Calm down, the statue has been removed following police advice.

 

It’s removal is cautionary and not some plot to undo anybody’s past.

 

Though I hope Biden-Powell’s past is examined before this statue, which is only a little over ten yes old, is reinstated to its former position.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-53004638

As a lifelong Scout, I would favor Baden-Powell’s statue being placed of Scout owned land. As far as I am concerned the Scout Oath, Promise are positive values. I will not be forswearing my earned American Eagle Scout standing.

[kingdong]

18 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Decolonize school curriculums and have balanced history lessons.

And if that dosen,t work send them to the gulags,we can,t have a brave new world when presents don,t agree,power to the people.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

if there is nothing worth to keep....throw it away. Why not?

May not be worth nothing to you, but it's our history that's why not.
If we did throw anything away, we would end up like you - sitting in the back rooms of pubs, singing songs, maudlin and crying in the Guinness.  

[laosnative]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

No it shouldn't, the police should stop this kind of wanton violence and destruction, it is not up to the police which crimes they deal with and which they don't. 

What do we say to a bunch of privileged middle class wanabee Che Guevaras, 'we surrender!' it has to be dealt with democratically, not them pulling everything down that offends them, we all have a say, never forget that, do not succumb to the mindless mob.

I agree ....Criminal damage is a law that needs to be enforced........

arrest those that commit such acts.....

Never, ever, run away from the rule of law.....

[nauseus]

29 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Decolonize school curriculums and have balanced history lessons.

If they were "balanced" would that suit these unbalanced anteaters enough so that they would show up to class?

[Kadilo]

53 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Whats the word from the Ant Theethers , where are they planning to destroy next ?

What are their next targets ?

I think I may have underestimated the size of this one. 

 

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by Kadilo

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

I think I may have underestimated this one. 

 

 

 

Who and wheres that ?

(The statue, not the fingers)

[tribalfusion001]

I wonder who is inside the grey oblong box?

Edited June 12, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

I think I may have underestimated this one. 

 

 

 

Just throw some paint over the old boot lol

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said:

I wonder who is behind the grey oblong box?

Just looks like an insignificant guy walking past

[Bluespunk]

33 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Which means removing White males from the workplace , studying Black African philosophers and ignoring White philosophers and teaching an alternative view of history .

 

No it doesn't

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Just looks like an insignificant guy walking past

I meant inside, I'll edit it lol