Ahead of Trump rally, coronavirus cases surge in Oklahoma, other states

[Ronaldd]

23 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

As for blaming white supremacists...

Feds charge 3 'boogaloo' adherents plotting violence at BLM protest

Three self-identified "boogaloo" adherents were arrested after plotting violence at a Black Lives Matter demonstration.
Andrew Lynam is a member of the United States Army Reserve, and his associates Stephen Parshall and William Loomis served in the Navy and the Air Force, respectively.
According to the FBI, all three were preparing for a coming civil war, and self-identified as members of the "boogaloo" movement.

https://abc7news.com/feds-charge-3-boogaloo-adherents-plotting-violence-at-blm-protest/6230433/

 

Federal Arrests Show No Sign That Antifa Plotted Protests

Despite claims by President Trump and Attorney General William P. Barr, there is scant evidence that loosely organized anti-fascists are a significant player in protests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/antifa-protests-george-floyd.html

Look at the source, The far left BS New york times. The leader of FAKE news in the USA

[johnpetersen]

7 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

I can accept THREE arrests of right wing "boogaloo boys" but these were not at the BLM protests but rather against CIVID lock-downs.

False.

Feds charge 3 'boogaloo' adherents plotting violence at BLM protest

https://abc11.com/feds-charge-3-boogaloo-adherents-plotting-violence-at-blm-protest/6230433/

 

 

[johnpetersen]

2 minutes ago, Ronaldd said:

Look at the source, The far left BS New york times. The leader of FAKE news in the USA

Oh please. If the NY Times got the facts here wrong, the right wing press would be jumping all over this article. The article pointed out that so far no charges have been leveled against any so-called antifa members. Are you saying that's false?

[Ronaldd]

On 6/18/2020 at 3:40 PM, riclag said:

50 states cities participated in that protest and riots during a lockdown and restriction which many cities  which were still practicing regardless of the risks involved. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_George_Floyd_protests_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The protests spread to over,speaking out against police brutality.

 

Cuomo  is the gov of  the state that represents one of those states with  which was the epi center of the virus. he was quoted as saying

 

“Get a test. Get a test,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told people who have been participating in rallies and marches in memory of George Floyd.

https://time.com/5849797/protests-coronavirus-test/

 

 IMOP,Why should people who protest and hold rallies have virtually  carte blanch to express their support for a cause and people who support change be ridiculed during the same virus circumstances. 

  Mr. Trump rallies are using  temp checks, hand sanitizers and masks! The only thing in common in my opinion between the protest rallies and people who want change rallies are they are standing together united.

 

 

Its all about stopping Trump from doing rallies where he draws on the average 30,000 per rally. Joe Biden cant get 500 people into his rallies so now he just does incoherent podcast from the basement of his home

[checkered flag]

The left wingers hate Trump rallies because they are so popular and fire up his supports. They can't compete with Sleepy Joe or the hilarious Hillary. 

[johnpetersen]

15 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Whereas at the BLM protests there seems many black clad (antifa's favorite) uniformed punks present. In fact there were some BLM protesters that tried to stop them.

This is your idea of strong evidence? Or even weak evidence? A fashion statement? Because wearing all black is a very unpopular way of dressing among young people?

[candide]

25 minutes ago, Ronaldd said:

You are exactly right my friend. The Main stream Medea didn't give a dam about left wing protesters and anarchist marching together all over the USA not social distancing, no temp checks, no sanitizing hand, maybe half had mask on. The Truth is Trump rallies draws in many people. The one tomorrow had one million request to attend in a 20,000 capacity stadium. So Trump will have 2 rallies the first one with 20,000 the second one in a nearby arena that seats 40,000 . Trumps opponent Joe Biden is 78 years old and suffers from Dementia and cant string one sentence together without notes in front of his face. Biden rallies have 500 to 1000 people. No excitement for this guy but he leads in the polls because their are more on the left then the right in the USA. The left know if Trump is unleashed with rallies all over the USA he will destroy Demetria Joe . This is how democracy works in the USA

 

 

 

As usual, fake news! 

Plenty of information, in MSM you would qualify as "left wing", was about risk CV spread raised by protests. For example this one (from a long list I found with Google):

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/01/health/protests-coronavirus-spread-concerns/index.html

 

[Ronaldd]

3 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

The left wingers hate Trump rallies because they are so popular and fire up his supports. They can't compete with Sleepy Joe or the hilarious Hillary. 

Exactly!!

 

[johnpetersen]

9 minutes ago, Ronaldd said:

Its all about stopping Trump from doing rallies where he draws on the average 30,000 per rally. Joe Biden cant get 500 people into his rallies so now he just does incoherent podcast from the basement of his home

Fox News Poll: Voters say yes to face masks, no to rallies

Voters gave a thumbs-up to face masks and a thumbs-down to political rallies in the latest Fox News Poll. Eighty (80) percent have a favorable view of mask-wearers, including 89 percent of Democrats, 68 percent of Republicans, and 61 percent of those who strongly approve of President Trump’s job performance.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies

[ChouDoufu]

On 6/19/2020 at 6:51 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

He’s Nutzo.

 

But I guess that’s answered the question ‘will attendees to his ego boosting Petri dish rallies be wearing masks’?’

 

Only if they want to send a message to their leader they will.

 

no, they won't be wearing masks.

 

mister trump has already declared them to be political statements.

 

"President Donald Trump said some Americans might wear face masks not as a way to prevent the spread of coronavirus but as a way to “signal disapproval of him.”"

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/trump-says-some-wear-coronavirus-masks-to-signal-disapproval-of-him.html

 

 

sure, trump added that some people fidget with and touch their masks, but that won't fit on the typical supporter's bumper sticker or handheld sign.

[candide]

25 minutes ago, Ronaldd said:

Its all about stopping Trump from doing rallies where he draws on the average 30,000 per rally. Joe Biden cant get 500 people into his rallies so now he just does incoherent podcast from the basement of his home

A coronavirus outbreak during Trump's rally would have a positive impact on the Dem campaign. It will make it even easier for them to criticize and mock Trump.

 

The problem, as mentioned already by another poster, is that these people will then infect other people who had nothing to do with the rally. People who have the right to remain in good health.

 

Edited June 20, 2020 by candide

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

A coronavirus outbreak during Trump's rally would have a positive impact on the Dem campaign. It will make it even easier for them to criticize and mock Trump.

 

The problem, as mentioned already by another poster, is that these people will then infect other people who had nothing to do with the rally. People who have the right to remain in good health.

 

Yes we want to win. 

But we don't want to see innocent people sacrificed. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Jingthing

[bestie]

Trump2020? I can't even imagine.  I can't even understand what you're doing in the USA. It's a big show while the world is wondering, laughing and crying. It must find an end and I hope without Trump in November. Hope you will be one day united again. 

[johnpetersen]

22 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

CNN the most accurate source (sic) of news. You are sick!

 

12 minutes ago, candide said:

I was replying to a poster claiming that "The Main stream Medea didn't give a dam about left wing protesters and anarchist marching together all over the USA"

It is fake news! There were plenty of articles about it in MSM, including the "left wing" (lol) CNN.

If ever we need further confirmation of Pavlov's famous law, checkered flag just provided it.

[johnpetersen]

31 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

CNN the most accurate source (sic) of news. You are sick!

Yes. CNN bad! Especially the way they've provided distorted and dishonest reporting about what's going on in Seattle!

Fox News removes digitally altered, misleading photos of Seattle protest zone

Fox News has removed digitally altered photos from its website after the Seattle Times on Friday noted misleading images used in the network’s coverage about a Seattle neighborhood that’s become a protest center against police brutality and racial injustice.

As of Saturday, Fox News included an editors note posted at the top of at least three stories on its website covering the protest zone, saying it replaced a “home page photo collage” because it “did not clearly delineate between these images” and that it mistakenly included a St. Paul, Minnesota, photo in a slideshow about Seattle.

The Seattle Times reports Fox News’ website featured at least two photos on Friday that inserted an image of a man standing with a military-style rifle, and that there were no disclaimers on how they were manipulated when featured on the network’s website for most of the day Friday.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fox-news-removes-digitally-altered-misleading-photos-of-seattle-protest-zone-2020-06-14

[Damual Travesty]

5 hours ago, bendejo said:

Just did some math.  19,000 attendees, and half of them contact the the virus, and half those are over 50 and/or have certain chronic illnesses (like diabetes) the body count would be between 100 and 200. 

Do your own math, all the stats you need are on the net.

See ya in 2 weeks.

 

 

Based upon what science do you determine that 1/2 would catch the virus? and also of those by what science do you determine that of that 1/2 of those would be over 50 AND have chronic illnesses? I think these are fair questions for me to ask.

[EVENKEEL]

Some of the folks who are camping out to get front row seats were interviewed about their thoughts of the danger of virus and across the board, all ages folks said they're not wearing masks and they're not concerned one bit. 

 

Kum Bah Yah America......

Edited June 20, 2020 by EVENKEEL

[Damual Travesty]

31 minutes ago, bestie said:

Trump2020? I can't even imagine.  I can't even understand what you're doing in the USA. It's a big show while the world is wondering, laughing and crying. It must find an end and I hope without Trump in November. Hope you will be one day united again. 

The thought of a feeble Joe Biden, President in name only, while the USA is lead by a cabal of criminals who invented a story of prostitutes, paid for it, distributed it to the media, called the President a Russian traitor and asset, attempted to impeach over it, then attempted to impeach again when Biden was found red handed, who take sides with rioters, who call for open borders, who call for reduction of police force, who allow take overs in their own cities, is unacceptable to me.  Absolutely unacceptable. Provided he wins fair and square, I would assume that Trump will have been the last conservative President in the USA. All hope is lost. Chaos will consume the USA. But I have faith that Trump will not lose.

[Damual Travesty]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Some of the folks who are camping out to get front row seats were interviewed about their thoughts of the danger of virus and across the board, all ages folks said they're not wearing masks and they're not concerned one bit. 

 

Kum Bah Yah America......

The strong survive. The weak die. Sometimes that is the way it is. Life is not fair. Never was. Never will be. What if another virus comes next week? Or round two or round three? Another lock-down? There is no hiding.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

The strong survive. The weak die. Sometimes that is the way it is. Life is not fair. Never was. Never will be. What if another virus comes next week? Or round two or round three? Another lock-down? There is no hiding.

Doesnt mean you have to run to the front of the queue to meet the grim reaper.

[johnpetersen]

8 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

The thought of a feeble Joe Biden, President in name only, while the USA is lead by a cabal of criminals who invented a story of prostitutes, paid for it, distributed it to the media, called the President a Russian traitor and asset, attempted to impeach over it, then attempted to impeach again when Biden was found red handed, who take sides with rioters, who call for open borders, who call for reduction of police force, who allow take overs in their own cities, is unacceptable to me.  Absolutely unacceptable. Provided he wins fair and square, I would assume that Trump will have been the last conservative President in the USA. All hope is lost. Chaos will consume the USA. But I have faith that Trump will not lose.

Shocking things are occurring in your alternative universe.

[Phoenix Rising]

10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Some of the folks who are camping out to get front row seats were interviewed about their thoughts of the danger of virus and across the board, all ages folks said they're not wearing masks and they're not concerned one bit. 

So the most ardent Trump supporters, his most passionate worshipers are not concerned about the virus. WOW, that blew me away!!

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

Based upon what science do you determine that 1/2 would catch the virus? and also of those by what science do you determine that of that 1/2 of those would be over 50 AND have chronic illnesses? I think these are fair questions for me to ask.

I agree that 1/2 contracting the virus seems high. But why do you replace and/ or with AND?

[checkered flag]

41 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

The CNN article is about the danger of spreading coronavirus due to protests. So you disagree with that?

We'll have to wait and see. If there is no significant spite in Covid19, it shows that stay at home was not necessary. Current data supports that older people, esp with preexisting conditions are increasingly vulnerable. whereas under 50 are less so. Therefore, stay at home was not necessary, but a sensible precaution at the beginning, when nothing was known. It appeared to me that Governors in blue states might be using the stay at home virus concerns, from having a recovering economy that benefits Trump. 

Of course older adults should receive appropriate protections. Co-mingling recovering covid19 patients with older adults in nursing homes (NY), is criminal in my view. 

Hospitals in the US have well established protocols to isolate infectious disease cases. Skilled nursing facilities (SNFs) specialized in long term or rehabilitation, but are normally not equipped for infectious diseases.   

[Damual Travesty]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Doesnt mean you have to run to the front of the queue to meet the grim reaper.

Are you making the claim that going to a rally or not wearing a mask is going to result in ones death? Therefore one should sit at home, until when? Exactly? and how often should this be repeated? I would rather be at the front of the queue, as I said before, I would kick this virus to the curb. I would rather live life. You can sit at home if you like and wait for round two, or three.

[johnpetersen]

1 minute ago, checkered flag said:

We'll have to wait and see. If there is no significant spite in Covid19, it shows that stay at home was not necessary. Current data supports that older people, esp with preexisting conditions are increasingly vulnerable. whereas under 50 are less so. Therefore, stay at home was not necessary, but a sensible precaution at the beginning, when nothing was known. It appeared to me that Governors in blue states might be using the stay at home virus concerns, from having a recovering economy that benefits Trump. 

Of course older adults should receive appropriate protections. Co-mingling recovering covid19 patients with older adults in nursing homes (NY), is criminal in my view. 

Hospitals in the US have well established protocols to isolate infectious disease cases. Skilled nursing facilities (SNFs) specialized in long term or rehabilitation, but are normally not equipped for infectious diseases.   

Where have you been?

Texas coronavirus hospitalizations spike 11 percent in single day

Texas hospitalizations reportedly jumped 11 percent from Tuesday to Wednesday.

Multiple states are seeing increases in coronavirus cases and hospitalizations.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/503348-texas-coronavirus-hospitalization-up-11-percent

[johnpetersen]

Just now, Damual Travesty said:

Are you making the claim that going to a rally or not wearing a mask is going to result in ones death? Therefore one should sit at home, until when? Exactly? and how often should this be repeated? I would rather be at the front of the queue, as I said before, I would kick this virus to the curb. I would rather live life. You can sit at home if you like and wait for round two, or three.

So, does wearing a mask mean you have to sit at home? I thought masks were for when you went out.

[checkered flag]

9 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

So the most ardent Trump supporters, his most passionate worshipers are not concerned about the virus. WOW, that blew me away!!

Not worth a reply.

[Damual Travesty]

7 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

So the most ardent Trump supporters, his most passionate worshipers are not concerned about the virus. WOW, that blew me away!!

I know this is hard to understand, but I support Trump on the basis of Policy. I completely and thoroughly reject the alternative party, and even Republican politicians often turn my stomach. But I cannot accept what this Democrat party has done to the current President. I will never forgive them and never consider them a legitimate party again, in fact I could never even befriend someone who knowing what is now known about them would still call themselves a Democrat, even if they hold the most left wing views, to still consider a vote for such a party is beyond the pale. The USA is turning violent. It will end when order is returned. I do not worship Trump, but the alternative is not acceptable to me ever. I no longer even consider the Democrat party a party. And YES I have voted for them in the past. I honestly believe that their leadership are criminals who have caused grave harm to the USA. The speaker of the House wrote that the President was working for the Russians, come on? Really? And this overwhelming evidence?  Never existed. I simply cannot imagine what it must have been like to be young man in Basic training hearing about such things. That the Commander in Chief was in the pocket of the Russian state. To say such things is NOT EXCUSABLE and they must be punished out of existence. I mean that out of existence. meaning the party no longer exists as a Party. Everyone can now see the obvious. No forgiveness. Never forget. Things are not as they were. I am in my 60s. I worship only God. This is all very sad and very serious. Nothing is funny anymore. Nothing.

[Damual Travesty]

19 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Where have you been?

Texas coronavirus hospitalizations spike 11 percent in single day

Texas hospitalizations reportedly jumped 11 percent from Tuesday to Wednesday.

Multiple states are seeing increases in coronavirus cases and hospitalizations.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/503348-texas-coronavirus-hospitalization-up-11-percent

so what? What are you advocating? Staying at home for another 6 months? I don't care how many cases there are. That is just people becoming immune, and stronger. I hope I get it and I'm over 60. I will survive. And if I didn't I am dead. A mosquito could give me dengue fever too. Or a car could hit me.

Edited June 20, 2020 by Damual Travesty
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