Leader of London BLM protests demands meeting with Johnson

[tribalfusion001]

3 hours ago, evadgib said:

How about repairing and replacing Coulson's statue & getting Soros to foot the bill again first?

Oh jeez it's the 89 year old man conspiracy theory again, you on the right love a conspiracy theory, the tinfoil hat right lol.

[tribalfusion001]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, citizens exercising their democratic right to protest and requesting a conversation with the pm are now terrorists.

 

How much further to the right can the right swing?

This was all over the far right Facebook groups last night, BLM are terrorists and conspiracy theories about the Reading murders.

[simon43]

If she claims to be the leader of these 20,000 protesters, then it is she who should be arrested for inciting and committing acts of violence and public disorder.

Edited June 21, 2020 by simon43

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, simon43 said:

If she claims to be the leader of these 20,000 protesters, then it is she who should be arrested for inciting and committing acts of violence and public disorder.

There was no violence in London yesterday and one of the protest organisers thanked the police for letting them demonstrate, the crowd clapped.

[Susco]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

How much further to the right can the right swing?

Obviously in politics there is a left and right tendency.

 

Who are you to judge that the political tendency, which isn't yours, is the wrong one?

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Susco said:

Obviously in politics there is a left and right tendency.

 

Who are you to judge that the political tendency, which isn't yours, is the wrong one?

Where did I do that?

 

I said that calling peaceful posters terrorists was wrong.

 

I referred to the right wing because of the posting history of the poster i quoted.

Edited June 21, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Susco]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

5 minutes ago, Susco said:

Obviously in politics there is a left and right tendency.

 

Who are you to judge that the political tendency, which isn't yours, is the wrong one?

Where did I do that?

How about, in almost every of your 23K posts

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, Susco said:

How about, in almost every of your 23K posts

Oh dear, you seem to think I should say I agree with all sides of an issue.

 

I don't and never will.

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

You cannot use a black man being killed by a single US cop as justification of making demands in the UK.  It is deeply flawed and dangerous.

And so it begins. If you think they care guess again. The UK is going to learn the hard way what it's like living with these people. Get ready for endless crying about racism and no concession ever being enough.

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, englishoak said:

Thug demands.... 

 

Self appointed "leader" of nobody who thinks she'll get some rewards out of it thug demands.

 

Hope the response is "obey the law, or get punished. Make threats, get arrested."

[Baerboxer]

27 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

There was no violence in London yesterday and one of the protest organisers thanked the police for letting them demonstrate, the crowd clapped.

 

And the report also estimated 2,000 not 20,000.

 

She seems to have an high opinion of herself and vivid imagination!

 

 

[Baerboxer]

34 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

This was all over the far right Facebook groups last night, BLM are terrorists and conspiracy theories about the Reading murders.

 

Whereas in other FB groups and posts, all white people are racist oppressors and profited from the slave trade which only ever enslaved blacks by whites.

 

In other words, total nonsense. 

[robertson468]

What entitles this Lady to discuss racial equality in the UK?  Is she an elected member of a political party, the people who normally represent others in a democratic country, or is she something else?

 

Everytime I read about BLM in the UK, it makes me seeth with anger.  They are an organisation masquerading as a Group to defend the people of Britain.  In reality they are the loudest proponents of racism in the Country and are hell bent on mischief.

 

 

 

 

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Whereas in other FB groups and posts, all white people are racist oppressors and profited from the slave trade which only ever enslaved blacks by whites.

 

In other words, total nonsense. 

Yep, complete rubbish on both sides. It amuses me to see the cr*p, it's also dangerous to set one side against the other.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

BLM is a protest group exercising their democratic rights.

 

 Try to dial down the hyperbole. 

 

They have a right to protest, peacefully, and in accordance with the law.

 

Some protesters are genuine. Others are political extremists, looters, and troublemakers who hide under the banner. What each % is is anyone's guess.

 

BLM "leaders", and how did they become leaders, have been identified as neo Marxists who believe racial justice can only be achieved through revolution and redistribution of wealth. A redistribution which would no doubt benefit themselves.

 

This movement is also brought out the vengeful, spiteful, chip on the shoulder anti white individuals who are just as nasty and racist as their white supremacy counterparts.

 

Reality isn't hyperbole. Sticking your head in the sand will likely get you shafted.

[Baerboxer]

Just now, tribalfusion001 said:

Yep, complete rubbish on both sides. It amuses me to see the cr*p, it's also dangerous to set one side against the other.

 

Indeed. It makes you wonder who is really behind this. Extreme left, extreme right, white racists, black racists, Asian racists, religious bigots, etc etc.

 

This pot is being stirred up. Looking at which countries, ideologies, might benefit could give some clues. And not necessarily the obvious ones.

 

 

[TKDfella]

It was many years ago now that I got 'elected' on to a local London Committee (I won't say how this came about because it's a long story). It was only an 'expenses paid' position so I still had my full time job. There were twelve on the committee not including the (professional) chairman and a decision carried by a vote of not less than 9. Topics for debate were handed down from some higher ranking 'office' and any decisions would go back to that office as a recommendation. One proposal was the opening of government swimming pools (in that area) one day a week for homosexuals only. There were two or three non-white members and they were in favour of the proposal as they claimed to 'understand' the homosexual plight.

Again, to cut the story short, at one point I simply asked, what days for everyone, which day for homosexuals and what day for heterosexuals only? Gee, I thought I'd started a war. "You can't do that! Having an 'heterosexual day' is discrimination against homosexuals!' I was told.

I was immediately called a 'racist' by two black members and many other things by pro-homosexual members...and all because I was trying to be fair. (As it happened the vote was 8 for and 4 against so the proposal was not carried). Other meetings did have some racial issues and I became branded by the members as FMF, 'fair minded....' (you can guess what the other 'F' was). There were several 'attempts' (some were abusive) to persuade me to change my attitude but I never did. Surprise, I did not get re-elected to that committee at the end of my term.

I know this is not the same as the BLM problem but it showed me that these representatives did not want fairness. The promotion of their claims meant they were discriminating by not including all.

As a long time Martial Artist I have friends from many nationalities and many disciplines so 'racist' is not in my vocabulary.

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

They have a right to protest, peacefully, and in accordance with the law.

 

Some protesters are genuine. Others are political extremists, looters, and troublemakers who hide under the banner. What each % is is anyone's guess.

 

BLM "leaders", and how did they become leaders, have been identified as neo Marxists who believe racial justice can only be achieved through revolution and redistribution of wealth. A redistribution which would no doubt benefit themselves.

 

This movement is also brought out the vengeful, spiteful, chip on the shoulder anti white individuals who are just as nasty and racist as their white supremacy counterparts.

 

Reality isn't hyperbole. Sticking your head in the sand will likely get you shafted.

The BLM is neither a terrorist grouping or the dreaded marxist conspiracy bogeyman.

 

It's a movement protesting racism and inequality that so many bury their head in the sand and ignore.

[bert bloggs]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, citizens exercising their democratic right to protest and requesting a conversation with the pm are now terrorists.

 

How much further to the right can the right swing?

Not as far to the left as you thats for sure .

[lee b]

How dare she. Who does she think she is?

[simon43]

 I became branded by the members as FMF, 'fair minded....' (you can guess what the other 'F' was..

 

I must be 'thick' 'cos I can't work out what that F stands for!   something ending with 'er'?

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The BLM is neither a terrorist grouping or the dreaded marxist conspiracy bogeyman.

 

It's a movement protesting racism and inequality that so many bury their head in the sand and ignore.

How about you posting a list of inequality and racism that YOU know about in the UK as you seem to be defending this group.

 

If that will be too confusing for you, I/we will understand.....????

 

 

[tribalfusion001]

7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Indeed. It makes you wonder who is really behind this. Extreme left, extreme right, white racists, black racists, Asian racists, religious bigots, etc etc.

 

This pot is being stirred up. Looking at which countries, ideologies, might benefit could give some clues. And not necessarily the obvious ones.

 

 

Yeah agree with you that, I think China is behind a lot of it, but then Trump loves to stir things up.

 

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The BLM is neither a terrorist grouping or the dreaded marxist conspiracy bogeyman.

 

It's a movement protesting racism and inequality that so many bury their head in the sand and ignore.

Well according to BLM and SWP, black lives matter is a revolutionary marxist movement for social and economic change through peaceful means.

[Baerboxer]

50 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Where did I do that?

 

I said that calling peaceful posters terrorists was wrong.

 

I referred to the right wing because of the posting history of the poster i quoted.

 

That's right. Protesters are fully entitled to protest peacefully and in accordance with the law.

 

Those that loot are simply criminals and should be dealt with as such.

 

Those that demand, threaten, and/or act illegally to further their political agenda are terrorists and should be dealt with as such. They normally "demand something or threaten or else"

[Bluespunk]

14 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Not as far to the left as you thats for sure .

Never denied my political positioning. 

[TKDfella]

13 minutes ago, simon43 said:

 

 

 

I must be 'thick' 'cos I can't work out what that F stands for!   something ending with 'er'?

There you go, you aren't 'thick', are you, ha!

[Bluespunk]

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

That's right. Protesters are fully entitled to protest peacefully and in accordance with the law.

 

Those that loot are simply criminals and should be dealt with as such.

 

Those that demand, threaten, and/or act illegally to further their political agenda are terrorists and should be dealt with as such. They normally "demand something or threaten or else"

Line 1: That's what BLM are doing.

 

Line 2: I can see that .

 

Line 3: People protesting racism are not terrorists, I'm sure once we have complete equality they will stop asking for equal treatment.

[Baerboxer]

20 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

It was many years ago now that I got 'elected' on to a local London Committee (I won't say how this came about because it's a long story). It was only an 'expenses paid' position so I still had my full time job. There were twelve on the committee not including the (professional) chairman and a decision carried by a vote of not less than 9. Topics for debate were handed down from some higher ranking 'office' and any decisions would go back to that office as a recommendation. One proposal was the opening of government swimming pools (in that area) one day a week for homosexuals only. There were two or three non-white members and they were in favour of the proposal as they claimed to 'understand' the homosexual plight.

Again, to cut the story short, at one point I simply asked, what days for everyone, which day for homosexuals and what day for heterosexuals only? Gee, I thought I'd started a war. "You can't do that! Having an 'heterosexual day' is discrimination against homosexuals!' I was told.

I was immediately called a 'racist' by two black members and many other things by pro-homosexual members...and all because I was trying to be fair. (As it happened the vote was 8 for and 4 against so the proposal was not carried). Other meetings did have some racial issues and I became branded by the members as FMF, 'fair minded....' (you can guess what the other 'F' was). There were several 'attempts' (some were abusive) to persuade me to change my attitude but I never did. Surprise, I did not get re-elected to that committee at the end of my term.

I know this is not the same as the BLM problem but it showed me that these representatives did not want fairness. The promotion of their claims meant they were discriminating by not including all.

As a long time Martial Artist I have friends from many nationalities and many disciplines so 'racist' is not in my vocabulary.

 

Interesting anecdote and resonates. I too am a longtime martial artist. People of all nationalities and ethnic origins, different beliefs, sexes and sexual orientations and political views practice martial arts. I have not met one racist or bigot in nearly 50 years among serious practitioners. Being welcomed in other countries and continents too.

 

I agree with you. IME those shouting for 'equality" rarely, if ever, actually want equality. They want privilege.

[CG1 Blue]

The UK is one of the most racially tolerant nations in the world. I still haven't heard a single suggestion as to what specific tangible changes should be made in the UK to meet the demands of BLM and their supporters. If there are no specific demands it suggests the people protesting are just blaming society for their own inadequacies, or they just want a day out and a bit of a ruck. 

 

Can any of the pro-BLM people on here explain what actual changes need to be made in the UK? 

 

[Baerboxer]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Line 1: That's what BLM are doing.

 

Line 2: I can see that .

 

Line 3: People protesting racism are not terrorists, I'm sure once we have complete equality they will stop asking for equal treatment.

 

People protesting racism, within the allowed criteria for protesting most certainly are not terrorist. I include myself as someone who has actively stood against racism.

 

However, as I said, those using this to drive other political agendas, and using or advocating illegal actions are.