Don Mega Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, CLS said: Wow, in an armored car or as diplomat? No I work in Chonburi but live in Pattaya but its commonly spouted that Pattaya is "not Thailand".... so here we are !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Kelsall said: As I have stated elsewhere on TV, my prediction for unrestricted travel into Thailand without quarantine is 2-3 years away. 2-3 years is a little extreme for quarantine. The virus will be long gone,. But there will NEVER be unrestricted travel to again to Thailand (for white westerners.) Expect more changes, covid-19 is just the thin edge of the wedge, to push an agenda. Expect no more visa free travel, Then back to a 1970s style max 15 day tourist visa. Package tours only under restrictions like a visit to North Korea. Don't sit too tight here either Kensall eventually there will be no more extensions, back to your country yearly to re-apply for re-entry, Unless perhaps for the Elite card. Got to get rid of old stinky sick broke Farangs. Remember the Condos they flogged off to poor silly souls like me? Not to worry. Eventually agents will appear to take it off my hands for a fraction of its value. Just like the USD $100,000 Covid policies suddenly appearing. Coincidence? Ask Mr. Li, the skinny man with the fumanchu mustache who just got your property for a song. Edited June 23, 2020 by Captain Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Don Mega said: No I work in Chonburi but live in Pattaya but its commonly spouted that Pattaya is "not Thailand".... so here we are !! Ok. Is there a visa on arrival and a money exchange booth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, CLS said: Ok. Is there a visa on arrival and a money exchange booth? is that like a toll booth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, KhaoYai said: And why is that? Are you saying those married should not be allowed to see each other? See post #60 for my answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Don Mega said: is that like a toll booth ? Might be, just without the EASY pass option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, CLS said: Might be, just without the EASY pass option. Easy pass is an option but that involves a visit to a Government owned organization to apply for (and pay for) the pass. Pay toll on arrival/exit really is no hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I'm not expecting to return for years, if ever. I'm heading back to the U.S. soon. Don't expect that the quarantine requirement will be lifted for me and I won't put up with that. Also, the <deleted> fit to fly certificate will be next to impossible to get from the U.S. in my opinion. So, as long as that is there, not planning on coming back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, JCP108 said: Also, the <deleted> fit to fly certificate will be next to impossible to get from the U.S. in my opinion. So, as long as that is there, not planning on coming back. What is this mysterious fit to fly certificate and why is it impossible to obtain? Isn't it just a simple form issued by your doctor stating that you're fit enough to take a transpacific flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, unheard said: 22 minutes ago, JCP108 said: Also, the <deleted> fit to fly certificate will be next to impossible to get from the U.S. in my opinion. So, as long as that is there, not planning on coming back. What is this mysterious fit to fly certificate and why is it impossible to obtain? Isn't it just a simple form issued by your doctor stating that you're fit enough to take a transpacific flight? I’m not sure where the idea of the ‘fit to fly’ letter / certificate has come from, I suspect it’s a terrible translation or someone has spoken out of turn, or someone is guessing. No Doctor I know of is going to issue a certificate to conform I don’t have Covid-19 and am fit to fly..... What I believe may be possible is that we can pay for an expedited service (somewhere) and take a Covid-19 test and receive the results in writing within 24 hrs - thats as close to a Covid-19 free certificate as anyone is going to get, I think. The Whole process of being able to return to Thailand at the moment is so unclear, no one seems to know what is necessary or what the process is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: The Whole process of being able to return to Thailand at the moment is so unclear, no one seems to know what is necessary or what the process is. Well, the guideline are established and application forms have been posted. Now we have to wait and see if someone chimes in with details on how they process has worked for them. I'm not aware of a single person with a WP that's posted any success story so far. And we'll have to wait for a while to hear back from anyone applying under the marriage allowance since the requirements have been just finalized last Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: What I believe may be possible is that we can pay for an expedited service (somewhere) and take a Covid-19 test and receive the results in writing within 24 hrs - thats as close to a Covid-19 free certificate as anyone is going to get, I think. In my county the tests are free and everyone and his dog can take a test without any symptoms present as a qualification. The problem is that the results are generally available in 2-3 days. There's been so much talk lately about the already developed and available rapid tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: I’m not sure where the idea of the ‘fit to fly’ letter / certificate has come from, I suspect it’s a terrible translation or someone has spoken out of turn, or someone is guessing. No Doctor I know of is going to issue a certificate to conform I don’t have Covid-19 and am fit to fly..... What I believe may be possible is that we can pay for an expedited service (somewhere) and take a Covid-19 test and receive the results in writing within 24 hrs - thats as close to a Covid-19 free certificate as anyone is going to get, I think. The Whole process of being able to return to Thailand at the moment is so unclear, no one seems to know what is necessary or what the process is. I think this fit-to-fly document is not a proof that you are Covid-19 free. It’s rather a document to testify that you have no visible symptoms of a Covid-19 infection. Like a pregnant woman needs a letter from her doctor that confirms that she is in good health if she wants to fly after the 28th week of pregnancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tounge Thaied Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, CLS said: I think this fit-to-fly document is not a proof that you are Covid-19 free. It’s rather a document to testify that you have no visible symptoms of a Covid-19 infection. Like a pregnant woman needs a letter from her doctor that confirms that she is in good health if she wants to fly after the 28th week of pregnancy. Here is a copy and paste from a post from xn47140 Asked the Thai Embassy in Berlin about the rules for entry to Thailand if married to a Thai. Here's the answer translated with Google: "we received a new order from Thailand on Friday. People who are married to a Thai citizen can apply for a special permit to enter Thailand. The following documents must be sent in advance to the Thai embassy by email: - Copy of the passport (first page with the photo) - Copy of the passport (first page with the photo) of the Thai spouse - Copy of visa and re-entry permit for Thailand - Copy of the marriage certificate - Medical certificate for a negative test for Covid-19 - Fit-to-Fly airworthiness certificate - Proof of overseas health insurance that includes treatment for COVID-19 in Thailand equivalent to at least $ 100,000 - Copy of the flight confirmation - Proof of confirmed quarantine stay (hotel booking): When entering the Kingdom, non-Thai nationals must undergo a 14-day quarantine at a state quarantine facility at their own expense. The quarantine may only take place in the following hotels: 1. Mövenpick Wellnes BDMS Resort Hotel 2. Qiu Hotel Sukhumvit 3. The Idle Residence 4. Grand Richmond Hotel 5. Royal Benja Hotel 6. Anantara Siam Bangkok Hotel 7. Grande Centerpoint Hotel Sukhumvit At www.hsscovid.com you will find the hotels selected for quarantine and further information - The completed declaration form The documents will be forwarded to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs for approval. In the event of approval, the Thai embassy will contact the applicant. The applicant speaks personally to the embassy within 72 hours before the flight date and submits the following documents: - Medical certificate for a negative test on Covid-19 (not older than 72 hours before departure) - Fit-to-Fly certificate of fitness to fly (not older than 72 hours before departure) The Thai embassy then issues a certificate of entry. You can also apply for a special permit to enter Thailand at the Consulate General in Frankfurt and the Consulate General in Munich. Please note that the medical certificate and the airworthiness certificate must be submitted twice. In the event of approval, these two certificates, issued within 72 hours before the flight date, must be submitted again in person to the embassy. We recommend that you submit the application to a consulate in your area, based on the short-term personal consultation before the departure date. Best regards Visa section of the Royal Thai Embassy Lepsiusstr. 64-66 12163 Berlin Tel. 030 79481117 (telephone information Mon - Fri from 2.30 p.m. - 5.00 p.m.) Fax 030 79481118 [email protected]" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, unheard said: In my county the tests are free and everyone and his dog can take a test without any symptoms present as a qualification. The problem is that the results are generally available in 2-3 days. There's been so much talk lately about the already developed and available rapid tests. Labeled with your name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CLS said: Labeled with your name? Say again? https://www.texasmedclinic.com/texas-medclinic-rapid-covid-19-test/ Edited June 23, 2020 by unheard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said: Here is a copy and paste from a post from xn47140 Asked the Thai Embassy in Berlin about the rules for entry to Thailand if married to a Thai. Here's the answer translated with Google: "we received a new order from Thailand on Friday. People who are married to a Thai citizen can apply for a special permit to enter Thailand. The following documents must be sent in advance to the Thai embassy by email: - Copy of the passport (first page with the photo) - Copy of the passport (first page with the photo) of the Thai spouse - Copy of visa and re-entry permit for Thailand - Copy of the marriage certificate - Medical certificate for a negative test for Covid-19 - Fit-to-Fly airworthiness certificate - Proof of overseas health insurance that includes treatment for COVID-19 in Thailand equivalent to at least $ 100,000 - Copy of the flight confirmation - Proof of confirmed quarantine stay (hotel booking): When entering the Kingdom, non-Thai nationals must undergo a 14-day quarantine at a state quarantine facility at their own expense. The quarantine may only take place in the following hotels: 1. Mövenpick Wellnes BDMS Resort Hotel 2. Qiu Hotel Sukhumvit 3. The Idle Residence 4. Grand Richmond Hotel 5. Royal Benja Hotel 6. Anantara Siam Bangkok Hotel 7. Grande Centerpoint Hotel Sukhumvit At www.hsscovid.com you will find the hotels selected for quarantine and further information - The completed declaration form The documents will be forwarded to the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs for approval. In the event of approval, the Thai embassy will contact the applicant. The applicant speaks personally to the embassy within 72 hours before the flight date and submits the following documents: - Medical certificate for a negative test on Covid-19 (not older than 72 hours before departure) - Fit-to-Fly certificate of fitness to fly (not older than 72 hours before departure) The Thai embassy then issues a certificate of entry. You can also apply for a special permit to enter Thailand at the Consulate General in Frankfurt and the Consulate General in Munich. Please note that the medical certificate and the airworthiness certificate must be submitted twice. In the event of approval, these two certificates, issued within 72 hours before the flight date, must be submitted again in person to the embassy. We recommend that you submit the application to a consulate in your area, based on the short-term personal consultation before the departure date. Best regards Visa section of the Royal Thai Embassy Lepsiusstr. 64-66 12163 Berlin Tel. 030 79481117 (telephone information Mon - Fri from 2.30 p.m. - 5.00 p.m.) Fax 030 79481118 [email protected]" Thanks for clarification. here we go: Medical certificate for a negative test on Covid-19 (not older than 72 hours before departure) is needed for Non-O, but not for WP holders. It’s either an oversight or an inconsistency in requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, unheard said: Say again? https://www.texasmedclinic.com/texas-medclinic-rapid-covid-19-test/ Is your name written on the report or is it just an anonymous test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Hmm, frankly I haven't heard of anonymous tests? Is there a such thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, unheard said: Hmm, frankly I haven't heard of anonymous tests? Is there a such thing? For instance many STD tests are anonymous. A Covid-19 test might be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tounge Thaied Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, CLS said: For instance many STD tests are anonymous. A Covid-19 test might be too. Your name is on the test results. Here is one from the U.S. the top portion was deleted off.... that is where your name is located. Check out all of the caveats for how this test may not be accurate (efficacious). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CLS said: For instance many STD tests are anonymous. A Covid-19 test might be too. I'm pretty sure there is no anonymous Covid-19 since the tracking visibility of the infected is the primary objective. Edited June 23, 2020 by unheard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: I’m not sure where the idea of the ‘fit to fly’ letter / certificate has come from, I suspect it’s a terrible translation or someone has spoken out of turn, or someone is guessing. No Doctor I know of is going to issue a certificate to conform I don’t have Covid-19 and am fit to fly..... Although there clearly will be a connection to Covid 19, I believe the fit to fly certificate is the same as the usual one and not a certificate stating you don't have the virus. In other times, if a passenger presented at check in looking unwell, they would be asked to see a doctor and passed as fit to fly. There are also other times where you may be required to get one - such as if you had been ill recently - although I doubt anyone would notify the airline and then have to provide a certificate. I think they are just trying to cover all bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 There are 3 factors as to returning to Thailand. 1) Your home country lets you leave. 2) Flights are going back and forward between home country and Thailand 3) Thailand lets you in Not sure why people keep asking the same question over and over when the answer is when all 3 factors are yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikomat Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 5:19 PM, nchuckle said: Pointless speculation which has been repeated here ad nauseam Guessing the future is never pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Zikomat said: Guessing the future is never pointless It is if there’s no new information. As Einstein said'repeating the same experiment over and over expecting a different result is the definition of madness' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noserious Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 "Covid insurance" may not be necessary for work permit holders. 3.6 Medical insurance or letter from employer guaranteeing that the insurance company or employer will cover a minimum of 100,000 US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) of medical costs incurred by the applicant in Thailand, including medical costs in the event that applicant contracts COVID-19. https://thaiembdc.org/2020/06/22/non-immigrant-b-ib-or-smart-visa-and-entry-procedures-for-holders-of-valid-work-permits/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Thank you for the link. And here's a page describing the process for the spouse or a child of the Thai national group: https://thaiembdc.org/2020/06/22/foreignerswithnono/ Edited June 24, 2020 by unheard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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