UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, Phulublub said:

So, the EU saw that the UK legislation was good, and used it as a basis for making a Europe-wide law with some modifications.  The UK, as part of the EU was able to help steer those modifications.  What a brilliant idea and useful reminder of how the whole EU working together for the benefit of all can work. 

 

Thank you for pointing that out.

 

PH

 

The point is that the EU is an unnecessary leech.

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2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Got to say I have to admire the stamina of those commenting on this topic from the intelligent, well constructed arguments of Remain supporters right through to the rantings of the brain damaged little Englanders hell bent on destroying the UK.

No bias there! However, for the last 4 years the vast majority of ranting posts in Brexit threads on TV have clearly been emitted by remainers.

[Nigel Garvie]

2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Got to say I have to admire the stamina of those commenting on this topic from the intelligent, well constructed arguments of Remain supporters right through to the rantings of the brain damaged little Englanders hell bent on destroying the UK.

You have to understand that they think of themselves as "Patriots", although you might be forgiven for thinking, that people who set about destroying the economy of their own country, would be better labelled traitors.

 

They suffer from "Grand mal" delusions, like the idea that the EU will collapse without the UK contributions, when Brexit has already cost us nearly as much in lost GDP as our entire contributions to the EU from the start. (Bloomberg). Given that the UK has survived that cost, how big an impact will it have on the EU - UK is only around 14% of the EU economy - obviously much much less (Primary school maths).

Edited July 22, 2020 by Nigel Garvie

[Nigel Garvie]

19 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The point is that the EU is an unnecessary leech.

So do you really honestly believe - despite the views of an overwhelming majority of financial experts- that the UK will be better off economically outside the EU? 

 

Who are we going to sell the 48% of our exports to that formerly went to the EU. Our balance of payments is grim already? 

[welovesundaysatspace]

11 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

So do you really honestly believe - despite the views of an overwhelming majority of financial experts- that the UK will be better off economically outside the EU? 
 

Brexiteers in this forum have admitted they don’t care about the economy. 
 

 

[nauseus]

23 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

You have to understand that they think of themselves as "Patriots", although you might be forgiven for thinking, that people who set about destroying the economy of their own country, would be better labelled traitors.

 

They suffer from "Grand mal" delusions, like the idea that the EU will collapse without the UK contributions, when Brexit has already cost us nearly as much in lost GDP as our entire contributions to the EU from the start. (Bloomberg). Given that the UK has survived that cost, how big an impact will it have on the EU - UK is only around 14% of the EU economy - obviously much much less (Primary school maths).

Can you prove what you say?

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Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

Brexiteers in this forum have admitted they don’t care about the economy. 
 

 

No they haven't.

[nauseus]

15 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

So do you really honestly believe - despite the views of an overwhelming majority of financial experts- that the UK will be better off economically outside the EU? 

 

Who are we going to sell the 48% of our exports to that formerly went to the EU. Our balance of payments is grim already? 

My comment was not to do with the economy. You may or may not realise that.

 

Whether or not the UK economy will be better off away from the UK remains to be seen.

 

Remainers always ignore the fact the the economy was not the priority for the leave vote,

 

The EU will continue to buy most of what they are buying from us already.

Edited July 22, 2020 by nauseus

[welovesundaysatspace]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

No they haven't.

Yes, they did. Multiple times. ???? 

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Yes, they did. Multiple times. ???? 

Oh no they didn't.

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Oh no they didn't.

Yes,

they

did  

Multiple

times.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, Xaos said:

Im from EU living in Thailand, not allowed to vote, I used to live in UK 9 years, just having a chat here.

 

Miggrants dont take jobs its myth and there were studies done 

 

http://infacts.org/mythbusts/eu-immigrants-arent-taking-brits-jobs/

 

There is another bit of simple logic that helps shatter the myth. Migrants are undoubtedly coming to the UK and finding jobs, but those jobs were there before the migrants arrived and clearly haven’t been claimed by Brits. So, the jobs migrants are taking are not being ‘stolen’ – they are jobs which native British either do not have the skills for, do not want for some reason, or are simply too lazy (or maybe too proud) to accept.

MISSION STATEMENT

InFacts has been in hibernation since December 2019. Previously its mission was to make the fact-based case against Brexit as a journalistic enterprise.

 

http://infacts.org/mission-statement/

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3 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Got to say I have to admire the stamina of those commenting on this topic from the intelligent, well constructed arguments of Remain supporters right through to the rantings of the brain damaged little Englanders hell bent on destroying the UK.

Us Brexiteers look forward to folk like you popping in now and again, it is good fun and bolsters our resolve, especially those who quote things like, "Little Englanders", it really gives their game away, "envy"...........????

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

No bias there! However, for the last 4 years the vast majority of ranting posts in Brexit threads on TV have clearly been emitted by remainers.

And/or Ponti's ????

Edited July 22, 2020 by evadgib

[bannork]

3 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Brexiteers in this forum have admitted they don’t care about the economy. 
 

 

Boris actually said, 'fluck business' (he had a heavy cold at the time). 

[7by7]

23 hours ago, kingdong said:

23 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Are you British?

 

Your not knowing what a time served tradesperson is suggests not!

clutching at straws now

 

No, just wondering why you don't know a very common British term.

[7by7]

23 hours ago, Loiner said:

<snip>

I don't think JRM has been gagged. I see him all the time - sticking it up the lefty side, particularly that numbskull Ashworth.

 Where's that then?

 

Certainly not as a government spokesperson in any of their daily briefings and press conferences. Even very junior ministers are wheeled out for them, but not Rees-Mogg!

 

Although, to be fair, he did make this vital statement on the pandemic in the Commons a month ago: Rees-Mogg suggests pub-goers enjoy 'yard of ale' to mark lockdown easing!

[7by7]

23 hours ago, Loiner said:

We tend to define it as the majority of the vote. Leave was the majority of the referendum, so Leave we must.
No Ifs, no buts, no more dirty Remainer tricks to overturn democracy.

That's why it's what we want that matters.

 We know what doesn't matter to you; you've made that very clear; what the majority of voters said they wanted last December!

 

Now Boris and his boss have ensured even Parliament will be denied a say!

 

So much for democracy.

 

 

[7by7]

23 hours ago, nauseus said:

The EU steal stuff like the UK H&S Act, modify it then offer it as their own.

 

The EEC/EU had nothing in place like this for decades. 

 

You are an expert troll. What can I say?

 

Modify, improve and democratically give it EU wide effect.

 

I'm proud that what was originally a piece of UK legislation now benefits the population of 27 other countries. Why aren't you?

 

You still haven't told us what the 'nasty' bits of EU legislation you want to be rid of.

 

Brexiteer definition of a troll; "anyone who doesn't agree with me, presents me with facts I can't refute and asks me questions about my beliefs I can't answer"

 

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, Xaos said:

 

If I was english I would be happy to welcome more white christians to UK with similar culture, and who assimilate pretty well.

 

U guys concerned about legal polish, romanian workers while ur gov is bringing thousends monthy illegals by boats, transfer them by busses righ to hotels, then give free moneys and homes.

 

Then u get this, its hilarious.

 

But european migrants are problem ????

 

Ireland: Bangladeshi Muslim Azad Talukdar - Limerick's new Deputy Lord Mayor who cannot speak English.

 

 

 

 

troll alert

[7by7]

23 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

if Parliament fancies a say on the final outcome and D10 doesn't fancy likewise,

why on earth doesn't Parliament hammer a piece of statute ensuring that they will have a say

 

the foggy island is weird and the governing of it is not sound

 

 It's called a three line whip. 

 

Even so, some 20 Tory backbenchers, I understand, did abstain; though none had the courage to vote against it and risk being ejected from the party.

[kingdong]

5 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

So do you really honestly believe - despite the views of an overwhelming majority of financial experts- that the UK will be better off economically outside the EU? 

 

Who are we going to sell the 48% of our exports to that formerly went to the EU. Our balance of payments is grim already? 

who? the financial experts who can,t do simple arithmetic,link .the 2008 crash.

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 It's called a three line whip. 

 

 

not a cat of nine tails?

[7by7]

22 hours ago, vinny41 said:

53% of voters wanting a final say on the deal is incorrect as that figure includes 11.5%  Liberal Democrats vote share where the party made in crystal clear if they won a majority they would cancel Brexit without a 2nd vote

so the 53% is really 41.5 of the total vote share

 

Liberal Democrats

The Liberal Democrats have pledged to cancel Brexit if they win power at the general election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48027580

Jo Swinson claims policy to revoke Article 50 and stop Brexit is ‘popular’

 

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/08/jo-swinson-claims-policy-revoke-article-50-stop-brexit-popular-11410692/?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/08/jo-swinson-claims-policy-revoke-article-50-stop-brexit-popular-11410692/

 

As your links make clear, the LibDems said they would only cancel Brexit if they won power; i.e. won the majority of seats in the House.

 

Otherwise they would support a referendum on the final deal.

 

But your post makes my case even stronger; 41.5% said they wanted a vote on the final deal, and 11.5% said they wanted to cancel Brexit altogether!

[kingdong]

4 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Brexiteers in this forum have admitted they don’t care about the economy. 
 

 

short term pain for long term gain,you,ll be whistling a differant tune when the eu go,es for a burton.

[kingdong]

8 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

Even so, some 20 Tory backbenchers, I understand, did abstain; though none had the courage to vote against it and risk being ejected from the party.

cause they didn,t,because they knew boris wouldn,t have stood for it,typical remainers,no bottle.

[7by7]

18 hours ago, nauseus said:

Funny if you actually believe that rubbish. 

 So tell us, why did he get an amendment to protect the NHS from being included in any trade agreements voted down?

 

 

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, Xaos said:

 

If I was english I would be happy to welcome more white christians to UK with similar culture, and who assimilate pretty well.

 

U guys concerned about legal polish, romanian workers while ur gov is bringing thousends monthy illegals by boats, transfer them by busses righ to hotels, then give free moneys and homes.

 

Then u get this, its hilarious.

 

But european migrants are problem ????

 

Ireland: Bangladeshi Muslim Azad Talukdar - Limerick's new Deputy Lord Mayor who cannot speak English.

 

 

 

 

troll alert

[7by7]

15 hours ago, kingdong said:

backbenchers ?don,t you mean backstabbers?about time boris had another clear out.

 So where would his 80 seat majority be then? 

 

There'll be a clear out very soon, but it's Boris who'll be calling upon the services of Pickford's!

[hotandsticky]

5 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 So where would his 80 seat majority be then? 

 

There'll be a clear out very soon, but it's Boris who'll be calling upon the services of Pickford's!

 

 

Dream on. 

 

 

You have been consistently wrong so far.