UK's Johnson pledges 'Rooseveltian' spending boost after COVID hit

[puipuitom]

33 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

He'd have imposed a land tax, wealth tax, extra corporation tax, increased VAT, seized personal savings over a certain amount, nationalized banks, transport, utilities, and turned agriculture into workers co-operatives.

 

His total media control would have ensured full coverage of the resultant utopia.

Sorry I have a lot more confidence in the British Press... 

[johnpetersen]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Whilst I don't normally support these "Labouresque" policies of throwing around vast amounts of taxpayers cash, I think that due to the Corona Virus the Keynesian approach is probably the right move to get the economy moving again after the disastrous start to 2020.

 

At least Boris and Rishi will put the money in mostly the right areas, unlike the loony leftists Corbyn, Abbott, Long Bailey et al. would have done.

 

 

Let's wait and see the details. Such as what does Johnson mean by "investment"? And what will his tax deals entail? More tax breaks for the wealthy? Interest rates are very low so if an investment makes sense there's no serious bar to borrowing the money. The best way to stimulate the economy is to increase demand. The best way to increase demand is to get money into the hands of those most likely to spend it. 

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Sorry I have a lot more confidence in the British Press... 

You would be in the minority Puipuitom, unless you were being sarcastic of course.

 

 

[473geo]

16 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Let's wait and see the details. Such as what does Johnson mean by "investment"? And what will his tax deals entail? More tax breaks for the wealthy? Interest rates are very low so if an investment makes sense there's no serious bar to borrowing the money. The best way to stimulate the economy is to increase demand. The best way to increase demand is to get money into the hands of those most likely to spend it. 

Wait and see!!!!....... But that would ruin the Tvisa humour and comedy provided those who diss something prior to the actual detail being released!!!

[Rookiescot]

9 minutes ago, vogie said:

You would be in the minority Puipuitom, unless you were being sarcastic of course.

 

 

Lets have a look at that then.

Do Labour supporters trust the BBC? No. They saw the political hatchet job on Corbyn that was carried out so they dont trust it.

Do the SNP supporters trust the BBC? No they all saw the political bias for the union that was and still is carried out on a daily basis so they dont trust it. My personal favourite was the "Vote no borders" story the BBC ran for 24 hours even though the thing was pointed out to them as being a total sham within an hour of the story first airing. https://wingsoverscotland.com/watch-closely-students/

OK there is no way UKIP supporters like or trust the BBC. They run stuff exposing Brexit as being a bad idea.

Lib Dems? They are always complaining they are starved of airtime because of BBC bias.

 

So who is left? Who does actually trust the BBC? The blue rinse brigade of Tory supporters thats who. Its the one group that is continually fed the stuff they want to hear.

 

[PETERTHEEATER]

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

I see his mother forget to help him dress properly again!!

He gets fashion tips from the immaculately groomed Dominic Cummins..

[samran]

‘Je suis Franklin’ is the new Boris mantra. 
 

The rule Britannia brigade are choking on their weetabix this morning. 

Edited June 30, 2020 by samran

[Loiner]

34 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

 

So who is left? Who does actually trust the BBC? The blue rinse brigade of Tory supporters thats who. Its the one group that is continually fed the stuff they want to hear.

 

BBC Scotland must transmit different programming to the lefty loving Beeb the rest of the nation endures. Tory supporters would be the last to trust any of the leftist PC drivel riddled rubbish that is produced there. News reporting and current affairs fell to the left years ago, but now even the supposedly 'quality' drama is tainted with politically correct revisionist nonsense.
The BBC is the prime candidate to be defunded.

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

BBC Scotland must transmit different programming to the lefty loving Beeb the rest of the nation endures. Tory supporters would be the last to trust any of the leftist PC drivel riddled rubbish that is produced there. News reporting and current affairs fell to the left years ago, but now even the supposedly 'quality' drama is tainted with politically correct revisionist nonsense.
The BBC is the prime candidate to be defunded.

I think you will find that it already is being defunded. What do you think the deal that Johnson made with Murdoch for his support was, if not defunding the BBC?

[off road pat]

21 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

If Corbyn had won the election it would have been a Stalinist 5 year plan instead ????

Nah,...Corbyn would not have waited so long before tacking action to fight the Covid-19 Virus !!! and Thousands would still be alive !!!

[Nigel Garvie]

2 hours ago, 473geo said:

Go for it Boris nothing to lose, encourage and fund the UK talent, lets get moving........

 

No stress, if all goes a little pear shaped Sturgeon and Starmer will no doubt be called upon to step in and provide their well manifested fix for the post covid era ????

 

Britain is in a win win situation it would appear -  all good

Encourage and fund the UK talent,....................actually the arts, music etc have received SFA, not even a promise. The government appears to be made up of complete Philistines, a total desert of creative skill and imagination. I know many UK artists and musicians who are now struggling to survive. A relatively tiny country like NZ can come up with a  £150M stimulus package to revitalise the arts, I expect we will get the money thrown at HS2 etc. I note we look to be buying the wrong satellites at a cost of £600M. The incompetence its mind blowing. 

 

Britain is in a win win situation it would appear -  all good.  Ah Sarcasm, genuinely funny ????????

[Loiner]

6 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Encourage and fund the UK talent,....................actually the arts, music etc have received SFA, not even a promise. The government appears to be made up of complete Philistines, a total desert of creative skill and imagination. I know many UK artists and musicians who are now struggling to survive. A relatively tiny country like NZ can come up with a  £150M stimulus package to revitalise the arts, I expect we will get the money thrown at HS2 etc. I note we look to be buying the wrong satellites at a cost of £600M. The incompetence its mind blowing. 

 

Britain is in a win win situation it would appear -  all good.  Ah Sarcasm, genuinely funny ????????

Fortunes have been squandered on the arts, music etc for decades. If those art lovers like it, they can pay for it themselves, not the rest of us.

Better put all that money, plus billions more beside into the country's infrastructure.

[473geo]

18 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Encourage and fund the UK talent,....................actually the arts, music etc have received SFA, not even a promise. The government appears to be made up of complete Philistines, a total desert of creative skill and imagination. I know many UK artists and musicians who are now struggling to survive. A relatively tiny country like NZ can come up with a  £150M stimulus package to revitalise the arts, I expect we will get the money thrown at HS2 etc. I note we look to be buying the wrong satellites at a cost of £600M. The incompetence its mind blowing. 

 

Britain is in a win win situation it would appear -  all good.  Ah Sarcasm, genuinely funny ????????

Talent that has been subdued, in manufacturing, development....you are the comedian Art and rugby are about all NZ has left, when I was there 20 years ago locals were complaining it was Japanese owned

Edited June 30, 2020 by 473geo

[473geo]

40 minutes ago, off road pat said:

Nah,...Corbyn would not have waited so long before tacking action to fight the Covid-19 Virus !!! and Thousands would still be alive !!!

Damn if the silly man had not stupidly underestimated the wishes of the electorate and totally blown the election - he would have been just the man for the job.....

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, flossie35 said:

The left have a better record at managing public finances -

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, 473geo said:

Talent that has been subdued, in manufacturing, development....you are the comedian Art and rugby are about all NZ has left, when I was there 20 years ago locals were complaining it was Japanese owned

LOL. NZ never had much in the way of "art" appreciation. Sure there are some good artists around, but for all the public adoration they get they might as well be invisible.

 

Rugby, IMO died when it went professional, and other sports are more popular now, IMO. English football seems to have a popular following.

Most people's  involvement in sport, apparently, only goes as far as the tv.

 

Don't hear so much about the Japanese owning NZ anymore- it's the Chinese now.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

A relatively tiny country like NZ can come up with a  £150M stimulus package to revitalise the arts,

That's other people's money and they were not consulted as to whether they want to "revitalise" the arts or even as what "arts" they would support.

Far as I'm concerned if the "art" workers can't make a living at it they can go pick fruit.

I dread to think where that money will end up, but given the government's track record I have a suspicion as to the recipients. I doubt opera will be getting a look in.

[off road pat]

20 hours ago, 473geo said:

Damn if the silly man had not stupidly underestimated the wishes of the electorate and totally blown the election - he would have been just the man for the job.....

Well his mistake was understandable, who in his right mind would think that a majority of the British people would have voted for Bozo ???

[Nigel Garvie]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's other people's money and they were not consulted as to whether they want to "revitalise" the arts or even as what "arts" they would support.

Far as I'm concerned if the "art" workers can't make a living at it they can go pick fruit.

I dread to think where that money will end up, but given the government's track record I have a suspicion as to the recipients. I doubt opera will be getting a look in.

Good news then, only ballet would have been worse!