Fauci warns spread of COVID-19 'could get very bad', says no guarantee of vaccine

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Id really like to know when Trump ever told the public to not wear a mask. 

He visited several factories/location where there was easily noticeable signs telling staff they had to wear masks.

 

trump either ignored the signs and didn't wear a mask, or he said he din't want to wear a mask and out of politeness the seniors of these locations said 'ok, never mind' but they continued to wear masks.

 

His actions would be taken as a strong indicator that masks are not needed.

 

Inappropriate for trump to behave like this, but as always he does whatever is needed to draw extra attention to himself. 

[brucec64]

2 hours ago, utalkin2me said:

0 credibility. Does not matter what this lying hack says. 

...is exactly why the US will be facing 100,000 cases a day soon. Bubba the epidemiologist has determined that this is all a hoax, and wearing a mask leads directly to having your guns taken away.

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, scorecard said:

He visited several factories/location where there was easily noticeable signs telling staff they had to wear masks.

 

Yeah and he also didn't "Quarantine for 14 days" in New Jersey which is their "law" nowadays and the media, creating even more retarded headlines, actually felt it was newsworthy. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/trump-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine/index.html

 

I think its safe and has always been a safe assumption that the president is very well protected, everyone in his circle is constantly tested, no doubt every where he goes is cleaned, and making stupid headlines like you mention and the one I posted are the real problem that is causing divide. 

The president is afforded massive privileges like his own armored cars, armored private planes, billion dollar bunkers, his own dedicated medical team, and hell, even his food is screened so the assumption that he needs to "wear a mask" or "quarantine for 14 days" is extremely dumb. 

[steelepulse]

Fauci is nothing but a political mouthpiece and has been so for more than half his life. He's served under multiple presidents on both sides of the aisle.  Speaking of both sides, this guy talks out of both sides of his mouth.  

[scorecard]

5 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Yeah and he also didn't "Quarantine for 14 days" in New Jersey which is their "law" nowadays and the media, creating even more retarded headlines, actually felt it was newsworthy. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/trump-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine/index.html

 

I think its safe and has always been a safe assumption that the president is very well protected, everyone in his circle is constantly tested, no doubt every where he goes is cleaned, and making stupid headlines like you mention and the one I posted are the real problem that is causing divide. 

The president is afforded massive privileges like his own armored cars, armored private planes, billion dollar bunkers, his own dedicated medical team, and hell, even his food is screened so the assumption that he needs to "wear a mask" or "quarantine for 14 days" is extremely dumb. 

Points taken, but ultimately I don't agree, he should be doing what is a good example for the masses.

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

Points taken, but ultimately I don't agree, he should be doing what is a good example for the masses.

 

Nobody other than the retarded media and Democrats have made Trump and Masks an issue and thats an undeniable statement. THEY are the ones that have "politicized" mask wearing. 

[whaleboneman]

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

No vaccine has been found for the common Alpha and Beta Coronaviruses (4 types of Common Cold).

 

It may indeed be possible that no vaccine can be created for SARS-CoV-2 and instead we may fined ourselves with little choice but to rely on herd immunity. 

 

This was the original plan. Lock down, reduce impact to the health services so that those serious cases can receive medical care, meanwhile the majority of the population (>85%) are asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms anyway.

 

If a vaccine is discovered, how effective may it be anyway? (flu is just 40-60% effective). 

 

 

Regarding the wearing of Masks.... it seems many from European countries (UK) and the US seem to think the pressure to wear face masks is some sort of invasion on their civil rights !!!!! - Just wear the ‘<deleted> mask, tools ! (I don’t like it either!), but wearing a mask can’t not be effective in minimising the spread of respiratory aerosol (and potential viruses) when in busy areas.

 

 

As far as Biden's ‘finger pointing’ is concerned - This is the perfect storm for sanctimonious accusation - there are no right responses, just a series of ‘least wrong’ responses. Using this crisis as a political climbing tool is despicable. It’s easy to throw stones when you are not responsible.

 

 

 

Apparently it’s easy to throw stones when you are responsible too.

[johnpetersen]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Id really like to know when Trump ever told the public to not wear a mask. 

I'd like to know when Trump ever urged Americans to wear a mask.

[Skallywag]

Notice nowhere in this article do they mention death rates.  Yes "cases" are rising, but hospitalizations and deaths have fallen to about 1/10 the level it was in the U.S. in April. 

Yes, the whole world needs to be wary, wear masks, keep hands clean, and social distance.  Nothing the government can do but help with the supply of these items to businesses and public places.  A mandate would be great, but unenforceable for the most part in the U.S. 

We started our mask mandate here in Thailand around the middle of March I believe.  Even though it is pretty lax and unenforced here now, most are still wearing masks inside stores and using the hand sanitizer, so all good so far, until international travel opens up. 

The old adage, "some people will never learn"  is so true and is ruining the recovery for many cities in the U.S.

[johnpetersen]

16 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

Fauci is nothing but a political mouthpiece and has been so for more than half his life. He's served under multiple presidents on both sides of the aisle.  Speaking of both sides, this guy talks out of both sides of his mouth.  

Once again, malign assertions unbacked by any evidence.

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

I'd like to know when Trump ever urged Americans to wear a mask.

 

His team have always urged people to wear masks once everyone backed off of the whole "Dont use masks, save them for medical professionals" <deleted>, but the media and democrats are always hurr durr trump refuses to wear a mask durr 

[johnpetersen]

13 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody other than the retarded media and Democrats have made Trump and Masks an issue and thats an undeniable statement. THEY are the ones that have "politicized" mask wearing. 

Please. For the Republican convention Trump hunted for a venue that wouldn't require mask wearing. In defiance of the advice of his own task force. 

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Notice nowhere in this article do they mention death rates.  Yes "cases" are rising, but hospitalizations and deaths have fallen to about 1/10 the level it was in the U.S. in April. 

 

Yeah but its pointless to even mention that fact because the doomsdayers will just say give it 2 more weeks, then another 2 weeks, then another. 

[steelepulse]

1 minute ago, johnpetersen said:

Once again, malign assertions unbacked by any evidence.

Once again incorrect.  Plenty of news and videos showing he blatantly lied about wearing masks, going back further, he lied about no risk to the US population. 

 

 

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, johnpetersen said:

Trump hunted for a venue that wouldn't require mask wearing.

 

Gonna need you to back up that whopper. 

[johnpetersen]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

His team have always urged people to wear masks once everyone backed off of the whole "Dont use masks, save them for medical professionals" <deleted>, but the media and democrats are always hurr durr trump refuses to wear a mask durr 

How do you define his team? I guess Pence wasn't part of it. And do you believe that any of their urgings, such as they were, would carry anything like the weight of Trump's with his supporters?

[Skallywag]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

His team have always urged people to wear masks once everyone backed off of the whole "Dont use masks, save them for medical professionals" <deleted>, but the media and democrats are always hurr durr trump refuses to wear a mask durr 

+1  very true.  The media on both sides is really unhelpful.  How can copying and pasting tweets on TV even considered news?  Showing clips of POTUS or Biden , blah blah blah.   Sensationalizing events instead of just the "facts" which is what they are supposed to be reporting

[canopus1969]

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

Israeli scientists are on the brink of introducing the vaccine of SAR and Covid-19...there are several articles to attest that Israeli scientists have the vaccine at hand but it's being tested on animals at the moment...

https://nocamels.com/2020/06/israeli-covid-19-vaccine-effective-animal-trial/

The Istaelis are behind several other groups - in the UK they have already done the animal tests and have been on human tests for some time

[Lacessit]

30 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

 

The president is afforded massive privileges like his own armored cars, armored private planes, billion dollar bunkers, his own dedicated medical team, and hell, even his food is screened so the assumption that he needs to "wear a mask" or "quarantine for 14 days" is extremely dumb. 

Unfortunately, the populace does not have the same privileges as Trump has. However, they assume he is leading by example, and they follow. So who is dumb, the President setting a high-risk precedent, or the people who copy it?

[johnpetersen]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Gonna need you to back up that whopper. 

Trump calls Cooper, asks for full GOP convention with no social distancing or masks

President Donald Trump called North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper Friday, asking him to allow the GOP convention to go on as planned in Charlotte with no social distancing and no masks.

The call came the same day N.C. health officials pressed Republican leaders for more detail on how they’d keep visitors and the city safe at this summer’s GOP National Convention. The two sides face what Republican leaders say is a Wednesday deadline to keep the convention in Charlotte.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/rnc-2020/article243084126.html

 

 

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

So who is dumb, the President setting a high-risk precedent, or the people who copy it?

 

Literally nobody in Trumps team, nor Trump himself, have told anyone to not wear masks or not to follow covid guidelines and the people saying trump isn't 'leading by example' are same people trying to blame the guy for the pandemic, have inherent bias, or gain politically. 

 

And yeah the populace does not have the same privileges as the President, nor any other basic politician in the USA. 

 

[scorecard]

12 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

How do you define his team? I guess Pence wasn't part of it. And do you believe that any of their urgings, such as they were, would carry anything like the weight of Trump's with his supporters?

And do you think any of his team would comment at all? All in fear of 'your fired'.

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

And do you think any of his team would comment at all? All in fear of 'your fired'.

 

Fauci comments all the time. 

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Literally nobody in Trumps team, nor Trump himself, have told anyone to not wear masks or not to follow covid guidelines and the people saying trump isn't 'leading by example' are same people trying to blame the guy for the pandemic, have inherent bias, or gain politically. 

 

And yeah the populace does not have the same privileges as the President, nor any other basic politician in the USA. 

 

Your post is a perfect example of why America is in its present situation, and are pariahs in most other countries.

Face it, Americans elected a high-functioning sociopath to the White House. He doesn't care how many people die, as several of his former aides have said, his sole focus is getting re-elected. Because he knows what will happen if he doesn't succeed.

You are reaping what you sowed, disunity and polarization. The virus doesn't care.

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Your post is a perfect example of why America is in its present situation, and are pariahs in most other countries.

Face it, Americans elected a high-functioning sociopath to the White House. He doesn't care how many people die, as several of his former aides have said, his sole focus is getting re-elected. Because he knows what will happen if he doesn't succeed.

You are reaping what you sowed, disunity and polarization. The virus doesn't care.

 

Funny, I don't feel like a pariah, never been treated like a pariah, and nobody in real life ever talks to me like people on this forum do - so all I see are paper tigers with BIG opinions who share only when they feel safe and anonymous. 

[Berkshire]

36 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

+1  very true.  The media on both sides is really unhelpful.  How can copying and pasting tweets on TV even considered news?  Showing clips of POTUS or Biden , blah blah blah.   Sensationalizing events instead of just the "facts" which is what they are supposed to be reporting

In the age of Trump, the news media cannot report on the President without clarifying his remarks.  Because nearly everything out of Trump's mouth is a lie, the media is forced to fact-check, include context and explain all of his remarks.  Just simply reporting what Trump says without disclaimers would be journalistic negligence. 

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

In the age of Trump, the news media cannot report on the President without clarifying his remarks.  Because nearly everything out of Trump's mouth is a lie, the media is forced to fact-check, include context and explain all of his remarks.  Just simply reporting what Trump says without disclaimers would be journalistic negligence. 

 

Fascinating how 'the media' has made themselves the center of everything and the arbiter of facts. 

 

Nothing like a bunch of unelected and hyper-opinionated d*ckheads deciding what should and should not be said. 

[Mama Noodle]

Reporter from CBS New York, just now:

 

But But But republican states. 

 

 

 

[johnpetersen]

2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Please tell me you didn't think trump was tweeting to "liberate Minnesota" from masks...

 

 

He was tweeting it in support of demonstrators carrying guns, not wearing masks and demanding that pandemic restrictions be lifted.

[johnpetersen]

40 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Fascinating how 'the media' has made themselves the center of everything and the arbiter of facts. 

 

Nothing like a bunch of unelected and hyper-opinionated d*ckheads deciding what should and should not be said. 

When Trump repeatedly makes false claims like "

We had a ventilator problem that was caused by the fact that we weren’t left ventilators by a previous administration. The cupboards were bare, as I say often.”

— President Trump, remarks at the White House, April 30, 2020

 

you think that members of the media should pretend that they're stenographers and just take dictation?

In fact, there were 16,600 ventilators in stock.