Trump repeats vow to defeat 'radical left' in July Fourth speech

[metisdead]

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[geriatrickid]

Presidents should unite a nation, but Trump stabs it in the back. He thrives on conflict, playing off  one group against the other. Divide and conquer.  Not even Nixon did that.  George Bush the younger,  united his country after 9-11 and soothed its wounds. His initiative on AIDS/HIV/Malaria saved millions of lives and is considered one of the greatest public health undertakings of the last century.  President Bush the elder took a damaged Bill Clinton, rehabilitated him and together they did a fantastic job first with the tsunami relief project and then later with helping the poor around the world. Obama did the same following the Sandy Hook massacre  and his response to the Ebola  epidemic is considered as a great example of leadership. He in turn tasked Clinton and Bush the younger to take on  poverty issues in the hemisphere.

 

We will never see the professionalism, the dedication, the manners and decency of these presidents as long as Trump is around. These presidents sought to unite and to build as a nation. Yes, they made mistakes, but they put their country first.  Trump is  pariah,  intimidated and scared of the former presidents. He is terrified of anyone  getting attention.  Obama shows how a president should behave when he delivers a classy speech at the opening of the Bush presidential library.

 

 

And yet,  it is quite obvious that a large number of Trump's fans still support him.  They are not interested in anything that is contrary to what they want to believe. Watching some of these people in action explains why the USA is in such trouble. Some are self deluded, or seriously mentally ill. others are just scared. The world is changing and they can't cope with the rapid fire changes. Many are poor and Trump offers them salvation; an easy path to wealth  just like the charlatans who promote their  get rich quick schemes. Trump offers them easy answers a quick fix. Blame it on commies, the left, or uppity black folks. no need to think, Trump has the answers.  While Trump  seeks to divide, Biden and his team are going to have to reach out to the people who feel left behind and offer them a way forward.  

 

3 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

CCP has funded Joe and Hunter Biden. Also suspected of indirectly funding Antifa and BLM.  Dems love it.  America does not.

Can you back up your statement or is this just another BS story you heard from one of the  groups that exploits gullible intellectually challenged people?

 

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

Swippy is not a kangaroo ....  Skippy is a kangaroo

Skippy is also  a  rather awful brand of American peanut butter.

 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Excuse me but it sounds like you just trashed Hitler for not being vicious enough. I thought I'd heard everything. 

Are you surprised? Many of his positions read as if they are from the Josef Goebbels protocols. I suppose an allowance should be made as he is elderly and is from an era that is thankfully coming to an end. Thankfully, most people under the age of 50 have more socially responsible views.

 

 

[RANGER55]

4 hours ago, Estrada said:

Such small hands

That’s acutely the Black Power Sign if you wish to be technical!

[earlinclaifornia]

https://news.gallup.com/interactives/185273/presidential-job-approval-center.aspx?g_source=link_newsv9&g_campaign=item_245606&g_medium=copy

Soon to hit 36% approval, then the Nixon, I QUIT.

[Logosone]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

That's one arrest,  Where are the reports of hundreds / thousands of politically inspired organised fellow travellers who would be required to represent a national security threat to the USA that trump rants about. 

Let's not the pretend that was the only Antifa agitator arrested. There were many more Antifa arrested. In fact Brian Bartels was part of a group of Antifa terrorists.

 

There are thousands of Antifa agitators in the US of course, but it is not required to arrest them all. We have seen with 911 that 11 or so perpetrators is enough to be a threat to security. And looking at what happened to cities in the US nationwide anyone who would argue that Antifa are not a threat to national security has not been watching the news.

[Logosone]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

I don't think anyone has claimed that divisions in America were caused by Trump.  But many believe that Trump has made it worse...much worse. 

Do you think there would not have been a wave of urban violence in response to George Floyd's death if Trump had said "Looting is not that bad"? I don't.

[Sujo]

Not to forget the far right who put up the fake antifa twitter account to cause trouble.

[Logosone]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

I can’t agree with you that division is not resulted from divisive innuendos by Trump. 
 

Anti fascism originated before the 2WW and became a movement in US in the 1980s against neo Nazi skinheads. Since then Antifa petered out and was only resurrected by Hannity and took on another lease of life by Trump. Steven Miller will most likely in the mix to goad Trump to blame that movement to fire up his supporters and to divert attention from his poor performance in leading the fight against COVID-19. 
 

IMO, taking on this topic is counter productive for his election chance. Majority support BLM and there are very little direct evidence of Antifa trying to take down the government. Educated public also understand that radical left is too extreme a connotation to current malaise. 

Come on, the divisions between the left and right have always existed. Antifa never petered out, they have been a fixture on the European circuit every 1st of May when they'd cause widespread destruction in many cities in Europe throughout the 80s, 90s and 2000s.

 

In fact even in the US in 1999, long before Trump came to power, we saw anarchists perpetrate massive violence in the 1999 Seattle WTO protests. The same city where as we speak police have to risk life and limb to clean out an Antifa-led "autonomous zone". 

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-20/shooting-in-seattle-protest-zone-leaves-1-dead-1-injured

 

Even blacks in the BLM movement are getting nervous about the young white ANTIFA activists hijacking their cause for their own ends.

 

Most support BLM, yes, but nobody supports extreme leftists smashing up cities and creating security problems all over the US. This is a law and order issue tailor made for someone like Trump. Who can use it to divert from the Covid 19 performance.

[Krataiboy]

7 hours ago, Tug said:

The VAST majority of us Americans don’t buy into this dark panic trumps trying to ferment the VAST majority of us want to address the problems we have together with unity and strength not division and weakness that only benefits our enemies hummmmmm????

Tell me to mind my own business, if you like, but as a Brit I don't see Trump as the source of America's present problems.

 

In fact, I only wish we had somebody among the lily-livered bunch now running the UK with the cajones to stand up for the values of Western democracies like ours.

 

It is ludicrous to blame Trump for the current divisions on your side of the Pond. These are being deliberately fomented by his Democrat rivals who are clearly prepared to sell their souls along with your country's core values in their bid for power.

 

Hopefully the average American citizen has already seen through the phony "equality" campaign of Black Lives Matter and their brutal Antifa bedfellows and realises their real agenda is to destroy the key elements of US society - capitalism, marriage and the family, religion, and democracy itself.

 

Don't just take my word for it. Go to the BLM website and read the chilling mantra of these deranged neo-Marxists, now being eagerly taken eagerly to the Democrats' bosom. Small wonder even progressive lefty billionaire George Soros has stopped funding their nefarious activities.

 

Believe me, if Trump is returned to the White House this fall, you will have good reason to thank your lucky stars and stripes.

 

 

Edited July 6, 2020 by Krataiboy

[Brunolem]

3 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Tell me to mind my own business, if you like, but as a Brit I don't see Trump as the source of America's present problems.

 

In fact, I only wish we had somebody on our side of the Pond with his cajones to stand up for the values of Western democracies like ours.

 

It is ludicrous to blame Trump for the current divisions on your side of the Pond. These are being deliberately fomented by his Democrat rivals who are clearly prepared to sell their souls along with your country's core values in their bid for power.

 

Hopefully the average American citizen has already seen through the phony "equality" campaign of Black Lives Matter and their brutal Antifa bedfellows and realises their real agenda is to destroy the key elements of US society - capitalism, marriage and the family, religion, and democracy itself.

 

Don't just take my word for it. Go to the BLM website and read the chilling mantra of these deranged neo-Marxists, now being eagerly taken eagerly to the Democrats' bosom. Small wonder even progressive lefty billionaire George Soros has stopped funding their nefarious activities.

 

Believe me, if Trump is returned to the White House this fall, you will have good reason to thank your lucky stars and stripes.

 

 

Very well said!

 

It is amazing to see how many Americans have adapted the famous quote from the Vietnam war era "in order to save the village, we had to destroy it" to today's version "in order to save the US (from Trump), we had to destroy it".

 

As I have previously said, if Trump is reelected in November, the US will go down in full civil war!

 

[simple1]

22 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Did you listen to the interview given by the leader of this "peaceful" militia?

 

Doesn't sound very peaceful to me...

Yes, big noting and making a fool of himself. Law enforcement would close him down if they believed he is a credible threat

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Logosone said:

Let's not the pretend that was the only Antifa agitator arrested. There were many more Antifa arrested. In fact Brian Bartels was part of a group of Antifa terrorists.

 

There are thousands of Antifa agitators in the US of course, but it is not required to arrest them all. We have seen with 911 that 11 or so perpetrators is enough to be a threat to security. And looking at what happened to cities in the US nationwide anyone who would argue that Antifa are not a threat to national security has not been watching the news.

 

Alright, let's not pretend - just how many verified ANTIFA members were arrested, then? How "many"?

 

There are "thousands"? On social media, sure. Out on the streets and directly involved in violence? Maybe, but you fail to provide any support for this. Not every protestor is ANTIFA, and not all are into the ultra violence.

 

Trying to equate between the current protests and 9/11 is low. Wouldn't call it unexpected, as the hysteria fueled by Trump's words causes people to say whatever.

 

For all you talk, still no actual support that ANTIFA is some well organized body pulling the strings on the current troubles in the USA. As far as I recall, Trump's own intelligence and law enforcement agencies did not agree with the President's take on things.

[Morch]

36 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Tell me to mind my own business, if you like, but as a Brit I don't see Trump as the source of America's present problems.

 

In fact, I only wish we had somebody among the lily-livered bunch now running the UK with the cajones to stand up for the values of Western democracies like ours.

 

It is ludicrous to blame Trump for the current divisions on your side of the Pond. These are being deliberately fomented by his Democrat rivals who are clearly prepared to sell their souls along with your country's core values in their bid for power.

 

Hopefully the average American citizen has already seen through the phony "equality" campaign of Black Lives Matter and their brutal Antifa bedfellows and realises their real agenda is to destroy the key elements of US society - capitalism, marriage and the family, religion, and democracy itself.

 

Don't just take my word for it. Go to the BLM website and read the chilling mantra of these deranged neo-Marxists, now being eagerly taken eagerly to the Democrats' bosom. Small wonder even progressive lefty billionaire George Soros has stopped funding their nefarious activities.

 

Believe me, if Trump is returned to the White House this fall, you will have good reason to thank your lucky stars and stripes.

 

 

 

Why, other than you saying so, is it "ludicrous" to tie Trump with making the divisions in the USA worse? Did the President, at any time in his term really try to unite the country? Bring people together? Or even just avoid fanning the flames?

 

Same goes for your "clearly" and "deliberately" claims alleging the Democrats are behind it all. Not a shred of support on offer, not even much by way of sound reasoning.

 

The "hopefully" bit runs counter to pretty much all polls, and ignores that the people participating in them protests are also Americans, are also voters.

 

If Trump  wins the elections, there will only be more of the same - more civil unrest, widening divisions, and toxic, mindless rhetoric on top.

[jcsmith]

9 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

That Trump succeeds in this mission is critical. His failure would mean the end of the free western democracies that our forefathers died for. They died protecting the civilization the left want to destroy. It would also fuel the ever growing war and hate against the world's most successful, creative and tolerant ethnicity.

Seriously what planet are you on? The end of free western democracies? But then I got to your last sentence and it's clear... 

 

Quote: "It would also fuel the ever growing war and hate against the world's most successful, creative and tolerant ethnicity."

[Logosone]

54 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Alright, let's not pretend - just how many verified ANTIFA members were arrested, then? How "many"?

 

There are "thousands"? On social media, sure. Out on the streets and directly involved in violence? Maybe, but you fail to provide any support for this. Not every protestor is ANTIFA, and not all are into the ultra violence.

 

Trying to equate between the current protests and 9/11 is low. Wouldn't call it unexpected, as the hysteria fueled by Trump's words causes people to say whatever.

 

For all you talk, still no actual support that ANTIFA is some well organized body pulling the strings on the current troubles in the USA. As far as I recall, Trump's own intelligence and law enforcement agencies did not agree with the President's take on things.

 

 

There was Vincent Eovacious, who himself told officers he was "with the anarchist group" and was "waiting for an opportunity." He faces up to 10 years in jail.

 

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/feds-charge-teen-with-civil-disorder-possession-of-molotov-cocktails-at-worcester-george-floyd-protest/2136643/

 

There was  Brian Jordan Bartels, who acted in a group but only he was charged.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pittsburgh-police-hunt-man-accused-of-inciting-a-riot-during-george-floyd-protestdowntown

 

There was Margaret Aislinn Channon who burnt five cars.

https://komonews.com/news/local/tacoma-woman-accused-of-setting-five-police-vehicles-on-fire-during-seattle-protests

 

There was Nikki Jameson, the crazed blue-haired transgender antifa militant

https://www.newsbreak.com/washington/seattle/news/0NlSSSQx/crazy-mug-shot-trans-blue-haired-antifa-militant-arrested-for-reckless-endangerment

 

There is Jason Charter who identified with Antifa and is considered a ringleader in vandalism.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/02/feds-reportedly-arrest-ringleader-in-attempt-to-destroy-andrew-jackson-statue/#77aef44e6779

 

[Phoenix Rising]

13 minutes ago, Logosone said:

 

 

There was Vincent Eovacious, who himself told officers he was "with the anarchist group" and was "waiting for an opportunity." He faces up to 10 years in jail.

 

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/feds-charge-teen-with-civil-disorder-possession-of-molotov-cocktails-at-worcester-george-floyd-protest/2136643/

 

There was  Brian Jordan Bartels, who acted in a group but only he was charged.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pittsburgh-police-hunt-man-accused-of-inciting-a-riot-during-george-floyd-protestdowntown

 

There was Margaret Aislinn Channon who burnt five cars.

https://komonews.com/news/local/tacoma-woman-accused-of-setting-five-police-vehicles-on-fire-during-seattle-protests

 

There was Nikki Jameson, the crazed blue-haired transgender antifa militant

https://www.newsbreak.com/washington/seattle/news/0NlSSSQx/crazy-mug-shot-trans-blue-haired-antifa-militant-arrested-for-reckless-endangerment

 

There is Jason Charter who identified with Antifa and is considered a ringleader in vandalism.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/02/feds-reportedly-arrest-ringleader-in-attempt-to-destroy-andrew-jackson-statue/#77aef44e6779

 

So, 5 people.

[Jingthing]

45 can't really say "what do you have to lose?" anymore like the con man grifter that he is. The American people know the answer to that already. Everything. So his options are now limited. Witness his vile speech at Mt. Rushmore.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-vicious-culture-war-is-all-trump-has-left/2020/07/05/4ca0986c-bca1-11ea-8cf5-9c1b8d7f84c6_story.html

 

Quote

A vicious culture war is all Trump has left

 

[The Barmbeker]

8 hours ago, riclag said:

You nailed it,especially the last paragraph ! I would like to hear Morgan Freeman  recite it!

I bet Morgan Freeman would rather eat his own tongue, than to recite such inane drivel!

[The Barmbeker]

4 hours ago, RANGER55 said:

That’s acutely the Black Power Sign if you wish to be technical!

No...it's not!

It is Trump!

So it is at best- White Power!

[Logosone]

24 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

So, 5 people.

No, not just 5 people, I'm not going to spend hours documenting every single arrest of Antifa criminals, but a cursory look at google certainly suggests there are plenty of Antifa boys and gals arrested.

[Krataiboy]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Why, other than you saying so, is it "ludicrous" to tie Trump with making the divisions in the USA worse? Did the President, at any time in his term really try to unite the country? Bring people together? Or even just avoid fanning the flames?

 

Same goes for your "clearly" and "deliberately" claims alleging the Democrats are behind it all. Not a shred of support on offer, not even much by way of sound reasoning.

 

The "hopefully" bit runs counter to pretty much all polls, and ignores that the people participating in them protests are also Americans, are also voters.

 

If Trump  wins the elections, there will only be more of the same - more civil unrest, widening divisions, and toxic, mindless rhetoric on top.

Trump has been under attack from all sides - not least the Establishment and the left-leaning mass media - since the day he walked into the White House. He clearly wasn't the global elite's choice and they have never stopped doing all they possibly can to unseat him.

 

His stance against the destructive revolutionary forces of Black Lives Matter and Antifa (did you actually bother reading the the BLM mission statement or listen to any of the neo-Marxist twaddle espoused by the movement's leaders?) is in stark contrast to the Democrats' dangerous ploy of piggybacking on the back of a political movement bent on destroying America, the UK and Western democracies in general. 

 

https://democrats.org/black-lives-matter-organizing-resources/

[Morch]

55 minutes ago, Logosone said:

 

 

There was Vincent Eovacious, who himself told officers he was "with the anarchist group" and was "waiting for an opportunity." He faces up to 10 years in jail.

 

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/feds-charge-teen-with-civil-disorder-possession-of-molotov-cocktails-at-worcester-george-floyd-protest/2136643/

 

There was  Brian Jordan Bartels, who acted in a group but only he was charged.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pittsburgh-police-hunt-man-accused-of-inciting-a-riot-during-george-floyd-protestdowntown

 

There was Margaret Aislinn Channon who burnt five cars.

https://komonews.com/news/local/tacoma-woman-accused-of-setting-five-police-vehicles-on-fire-during-seattle-protests

 

There was Nikki Jameson, the crazed blue-haired transgender antifa militant

https://www.newsbreak.com/washington/seattle/news/0NlSSSQx/crazy-mug-shot-trans-blue-haired-antifa-militant-arrested-for-reckless-endangerment

 

There is Jason Charter who identified with Antifa and is considered a ringleader in vandalism.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/02/feds-reportedly-arrest-ringleader-in-attempt-to-destroy-andrew-jackson-statue/#77aef44e6779

 

 

16 minutes ago, Logosone said:

No, not just 5 people, I'm not going to spend hours documenting every single arrest of Antifa criminals, but a cursory look at google certainly suggests there are plenty of Antifa boys and gals arrested.

 

The very fact to you can produce links detailing specific arrests of specific people implies that there are simply not a whole lot of them, at least not of a caliber justifying arrest. No one expects you to document "every single arrest", just produce a solidly backed figure of total number of arrests (that is ANTIFA related arrests, not protestors in general).

[Morch]

18 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Trump has been under attack from all sides - not least the Establishment and the left-leaning mass media - since the day he walked into the White House. He clearly wasn't the global elite's choice and they have never stopped doing all they possibly can to unseat him.

 

His stance against the destructive revolutionary forces of Black Lives Matter and Antifa (did you actually bother reading the the BLM mission statement or listen to any of the neo-Marxist twaddle espoused by the movement's leaders?) is in stark contrast to the Democrats' dangerous ploy of piggybacking on the back of a political movement bent on destroying America, the UK and Western democracies in general. 

 

https://democrats.org/black-lives-matter-organizing-resources/

 

That's not even a halfway decent deflection. You haven't supported your initial claims with anything.

 

Trump was on the attack ever since he hit the campaign trail, in case you forgot. To imply that him being under attack had nothing whatsoever to do with his style, positions, and the rest of it is disingenuous as it comes. Trying to paint Trump as anything other than "elite"? Good luck with that.

 

I seriously doubt most people participating in the protests and civil disorder under the label of BLM would be able to discuss Marxism, Neo-Marxist, or any other ideological creed, even if leaders of the movement do.

 

As for parties piggybacking on this or that, did you have the same issues with Trump flirting with white nationalists, alt-right groups and the like? Thought so.

[Baerboxer]

9 hours ago, Estrada said:

The far right white supremacists, like Donald Trump's father, the Bush family and other Republicans were supporting Hitler from the 30s and helped Hitler rise to power. Companies such as Standard Oil (Bush family) supplied oil, General Motors and Ford supplied vehicles, IBM supplied machines, others supplied aircraft designs and aeroengines. Without the United States far-right and American Nazi Party support there not have been for so many soldiers to have died and without fuel and badly need financial and armanent support I doubt if there would have been a WWII. The United States only switched sides on December 7th 1941 after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. The States (The most successful, creative and tolerant ethnicity). have been waging war all over the world since the 17th century almost without stop. Many of the wars were against the American Indians, the Mexicans (where they grabbed hold of part of Mexico which is now California) and other territories in the South which were Spanish or French. And Trump's supporters demand that the peoples of the South who speak Spanish should speak English! Trump wants to invade Iran, but is in love with Kim Jong Eun so he is off the list. I was recruited by the U.S. Army as part of the Iraq invasion force and was in Libya when they decided to topple Ghadafi on a made up charge. I got the warning from Haliburton that they intended to take Ghadafi down. Most of the wars have been to attack countries with huge oil reserves such as Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya and currently focused on Venezuela. Osama Bin Laden worked for the United States and was trained by the CIA to form a terrorist fighting group to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. This later became Al Qaeda and led to 9/11 and also gave rise to ISIS/ISIL. Trump and Pompeo have investments in arms manufacturers such as Raytheon (Mother of All Bombs etc) He needs war to line his pockets and those of his supporters. P.S. There is no "Radical Far-left in the United States. The ideals of the Dems are no different to the right of centre, Tory party in the UK and other parts of Europe. Trump must lose "Biggly".

 

 

So you must include Johnson, Kennedy, Obama etc as war mongering fascists too then, in your rather warped and inventive history?

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

45 can't really say "what do you have to lose?" anymore like the con man grifter that he is. The American people know the answer to that already. Everything. So his options are now limited. Witness his vile speech at Mt. Rushmore.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-vicious-culture-war-is-all-trump-has-left/2020/07/05/4ca0986c-bca1-11ea-8cf5-9c1b8d7f84c6_story.html

 

 

 

Thanks for posting the link. Clearly, the American pot is, rather sadly, getting close to boiling point as both sides of the political divide turn up the hear rather recklessly.

 

But the Washington Post and NYT are both now clearing nothing more than Democrat propaganda rags.

[RANGER55]

58 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

No...it's not!

It is Trump!

So it is at best- White Power!

It has been around for centuries or two. However it came into prominence in 1966 when the Black Panthers started using it for their movement. The two black runners used it on the podium at the 1966 Olympics. As you can see it is at all the demonstrations now, used with BLM, Kap and other sports figures, Antifa, Marxist, Neo-Marxist.

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/black-lives-matter-fist-symbol-meaning-black-power-history-raised-explained-432838

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[jcsmith]

34 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

With regards to paragraph one, what about the so-called "Russiagate", this big nothingburger cooked by the left, hampering the government's work for almost 3 years, and ending with the pathetic Mueller testimony? 

 

Then what about the so-called "Ukrainegate", another nothingburger cooked by the left, and ending with a failed impeachment? 

"Russiagate" as you call it resulted in 34 indictments, including 5 people from the Trump campaign, and branched into things like the Butina and Cohen convictions. It's undeniable that Trump tried to use Russia to get help in the election. Undeniable. There is an email with his son setting up the meeting that clearly states it was for dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of Russia's efforts to help Trump get elected. His son replied that he loved it, his son, son in law and campaign manager all attended the meeting. And when news of this broke Trump was part of the cover up to lie about it. This after Kushner and Don Jr. both lied about the substance of the meeting. Trump clearly obstructed justice, his campaign deleted evidence, was caught lying repeatedly, and Trump refused to be interviewed. Only allowing a limited number of written questions, in which cases he responded without detailed responses or with insufficient responses on multiple and then refused to allow followup questions. Mueller clearly stated the DOJ policies do not allow indicting a sitting president even if he wanted to so that was never a consideration. But it's pretty undeniable that Russian interference happened and that the Trump campaign sought it out. 

 

"Ukrainegate" as you put it also was a situation where he absolutely did it. He even leaked the transcripts to prove it. Some republicans even made a point to not argue that he didn't do it but to instead make an argument that it didn't rise to the level of impeachment. That was their defense, but your defense is apparently that there was nothing there. Meanwhile Bolton (who wanted no part of it) is claiming there were Ukraine-style exploitations throughout Trump's foreign policy. Do you think that's okay? This time next year when Joe Biden is president will you be okay if he's trying to manipulate foreign policy to get re-elected in 2024? I'm guessing no. I would add that the only reason Trump wasn't impeached is because the republican party has been neutered by Trump. 

This constant whining that people have been unfair to Trump is pathetic. People haven't been unfair to him. They are holding him to the standard of being a president. He represents America, but he acts in a way that if your kids acted you would feel they were spoiled brats in dire need of discipline. He attacks everybody. Then he whines, "it's not fair" that people are attacking him back. He whines that people have been out to get him from day one, you think that's just because they hate the way he looks? Or do you think it's because of his policies and his lack of maturity and civility? He's under investigation because he's constantly cheated and swindled, his entire life. His entire backstory is built on lies. He "made his fortune" by inheriting it, and then lying about the fact that he did. He maintained it by cheating his partners and putting hundreds of small companies out of business because he refused to pay them. He stole from his own charity. Scammed people with a university with his name it. He has made up ridiculous lies like he saw hundreds of muslims cheering at the towers fell, or that he lost hundreds of friends in 9/11 (despite going to not a single funeral), or that he has solid evidence that will be coming out in a few days that Obama's birth certificate is a fake... His entire life has been leaping from one scam to the next. That guy should be spared from criticism? 

Edited July 6, 2020 by jcsmith

[mikebike]

10 hours ago, steven100 said:

Kanye this week ....  who next ?   Oprah Winfrey  ....  lol    

 

 

 

How cute. You think Kanye is a leftist. ????

Edited July 6, 2020 by mikebike

[mikebike]

7 hours ago, riclag said:

The time and resources to expose these leftists would be better served in real time ! Let the police restore law and order "on the spot" when these antifa thugs commit mayhem!

Oh my. Tossing out the sixth as you argue 45 is all about the constitution. Where to start with that? ????