10 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

He seems to be fine-tuning the new Miller Lite-like campaign tag line:

 

Less Testing, More Racism

 

 

No be fair now 

Less marxism and more of all lives matter(black ,blue,and white)

Well , he is right. I am not a supporter of Trump but this time the statistics back him up. 

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by balo

4 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Lots of sense here and honesty. It might not sound 'nice' but blacks do the most crime, kill the most people and also whine the most. Having said that it is obvious that kneeling on someone for 8 minutes, no matter what a scumbag they may be, is OTT and, obviously, dangerous as in Floyds case. NOW it's being made into a huge drama for political purposes. I agree with MLK - be colour blind.

With out taking away from that nitwit kneeling on GF throat and that he should be held responsible for it.

 

You brought in politics and huge drama! Like any political movement such as BLM ,one must research their founders and their ideology and to what end they will go to create their existence as a movement .

I think all colors can see through their radical  agenda

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by Yankeesvsredsox

4 hours ago, Logosone said:

Well, firstly thank you for admitting that the specific point that blacks are not shot in disproportionate numbers has been demonstrated statistically. Indeed it has.

 

And BLM made that allegation that blacks are targeted disproportionately by the police and shot in disproportionate numbers. Which is not the case. 

 

So once this issue is demonstrated as being false it completely removes the central thrust of the BLM campaign. It shows BLM up as frauds, liars and peddlers of deceit. They claimed there was an issue that never was, blacks are not shot in disproportionate numbers.

 

Obviously this will mean that BLM will lose traction. Who, that is not completely braindead, could possibly fall for the BLM propaganda now?

 

Of course the issue of race relations will never go away in the US. Even in 1910, over 100 years ago, there were race riots. This will happen again and again. 

 

However the Marxist BLM's lies that police shoot blacks in disproportionate numbers will never again stand up to scrutiny, because it is so obviously a lie.

 

I have in no way provided an "alternative" fact narrative for the George Floyd saga. He paid with a fake dollar bill, was violent and disruptive and resisted arrest, plus he had previous convictions for robbery. He was a criminal. Look it up.

 

Nevertheless what happened to him is very regrettable of course. But as for BLM claiming that police kill blacks in disproportionate numbers, that is simple a lie, a misrepresentation and an untruth. 

"However the Marxist BLM's lies that police shoot blacks in disproportionate numbers will never again stand up to scrutiny, because it is so obviously a lie".

 

Thank you for shedding light 

 

I must admit BLM had my attention until they reared their (ideological)  head!.  When I seen that black women on TV cry cause her business was destroyed and said BLM is a lie ,only shows they don't care about   all black lives. If they did the movement would be throwing millions into Chicago ,to help the other victims of black on black killings!

Unfortunately it isn't news worthy(their ideology)  by the msm!

Many unsuspecting people who don't know the founders beliefs will sheeple along like good souls and fall victim to their propaganda! 

I won't!

 

 

  

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by Yankeesvsredsox

13 hours ago, simple1 said:

Some will say the use of the word 'snowflakes' indicates right of centre leanings. I searched for the meaning / description of 'anti-trump supremacists', no hits so can you clarify?

Supremacism is an ideology which holds that a certain class of people is superior to others, and that it should be or is entitled to dominate, control, subjugate, and/or eliminate others.

4 hours ago, balo said:

Well , he is right. I am not a supporter of Trump but this time the statistics back him up. 

Not many non-supporters will admit it even when he is right, well done! 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Supremacism is an ideology which holds that a certain class of people is superior to others, and that it should be or is entitled to dominate, control, subjugate, and/or eliminate others.

Thanks for the clarification - description really does match up with trump admin strategy concerning disenfranchisement of voters, attacking critics with words such as 'traitors' and 'scum', 'lock her up' etc- anti trump protesters do not have the capability / power you, or if any very minor, which you describe.

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by simple1

15 hours ago, BobBKK said:

I know they seek to shut down truth and dialogue with their 'cancer cancel culture'. Humans are the same no matter what skin, gender or religion. This REVISIONIST nonsense won't work long term.

As for Trump winning I thought easily before January but Covid has saved Biden's bacon. He could win by doing NOTHING just keeping quiet.

God sent covid to make sure Trump is toast(ed) - on both sides. If you stapledd his lips together, he'd still be talking - out of his a/hole.

6 hours ago, simple1 said:

Thanks for the clarification - description really does match up with trump admin strategy concerning disenfranchisement of voters, attacking critics with words such as 'traitors' and 'scum', 'lock her up' etc- anti trump protesters do not have the capability / power you, or if any very minor, which you describe.

I think you are mistaken. I use 'anti-Trump supremacist' to describe the people who DON'T support Trump and think themselves morally and intellectually superior to those who do. 

22 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I think you are mistaken. I use 'anti-Trump supremacist' to describe the people who DON'T support Trump and think themselves morally and intellectually superior to those who do. 

Why do you think they're incorrect? Trump has now reached 20,000 plus fact checked false / misleading statements since he came to power. How can people who are reasonable OK with with their mental capacities keep on with supporting the guy.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Why do you think they're incorrect? Trump has now reached 20,000 plus fact checked false / misleading statements since he came to power. How can people who are reasonable OK with with their mental capacities keep on with supporting the guy.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims

Whether he has lied or not is not the issue. I wouldn't vote for him but believe in equality and Democracy. I think the US people have a Democratic voting system but some losers are very bitter.

 

Do you think that you are morally superior to people who vote for Trump, or any other leader for that matter? Many of my friends do. 

 

 

Biden is best say nothing. I’m not sure what he believes in except refunding the WHO that is in bed with China. I think very few people think Biden will be a good president. They are voting against Trump instead of for Biden. But what does he stand for?

Many people don’t like that Trump gives tax advantages to corporations that expand and hire thousands of extra people. They prefer to tax all the profit from the company and give it into welfare programs and discourage the corporation from expanding and employing thousand of more people.
Trump tried to make it profitable for corporations to continue to do business in America instead of sending jobs overseas. But many people feel we should have strong taxes on the companies and more profitable to move the factories overseas and employee people from other countries
 

Biden just needs to keep quiet and hope that the Only Black Lives Matter (OBLM) rioters and the coronavirus will affect Trumps election possibilities. I am wondering when the OBLM rioters demand the rewriting of the constitution because it was written by former slave owners

It was Mark Twain who said there are lies damned lies and statistics.we all can find something to suit our agenda but when it comes to mass shootings white men can hold there head up they at least manage to surpass the fact America 60%white but mass shootings whites do more than 60% if you are American must be so nice to have guns everywhere

On 7/15/2020 at 6:08 AM, webfact said:

According to a Washington Post analysis updated on Monday, half of the people shot and killed by U.S. police are white, but Black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans, the newspaper analysis found.

what is this waffle.... ?

An off topic post which was known to be off topic when it was posted has been removed as well as the replies. 

On 7/17/2020 at 1:29 AM, RANGER55 said:

Come on now, why you got to call Obama names!

 

Some resort to filth because they don't have anything else. Isn't calling someone a "t***" on TVF breaking the rules?

with respect, thanks for monitoring my post. I do try to stay on topic on what is a very broad-ranging and passionate topic.

On 7/17/2020 at 5:25 PM, Logosone said:

Well, firstly thank you for admitting that the specific point that blacks are not shot in disproportionate numbers has been demonstrated statistically. Indeed it has.

 

And BLM made that allegation that blacks are targeted disproportionately by the police and shot in disproportionate numbers. Which is not the case. 

 

So once this issue is demonstrated as being false it completely removes the central thrust of the BLM campaign. It shows BLM up as frauds, liars and peddlers of deceit. They claimed there was an issue that never was, blacks are not shot in disproportionate numbers.

 

Obviously this will mean that BLM will lose traction. Who, that is not completely braindead, could possibly fall for the BLM propaganda now?

 

Of course the issue of race relations will never go away in the US. Even in 1910, over 100 years ago, there were race riots. This will happen again and again. 

 

However the Marxist BLM's lies that police shoot blacks in disproportionate numbers will never again stand up to scrutiny, because it is so obviously a lie.

 

I have in no way provided an "alternative" fact narrative for the George Floyd saga. He paid with a fake dollar bill, was violent and disruptive and resisted arrest, plus he had previous convictions for robbery. He was a criminal. Look it up.

 

Nevertheless what happened to him is very regrettable of course. But as for BLM claiming that police kill blacks in disproportionate numbers, that is simple a lie, a misrepresentation and an untruth. 

 

Only I neither "admitted" what you claim, nor accepted the rest of your biased, partisan views. That's yet another twist you try to introduce into this "discussion". Same way you highlight only them bits of figures which "support" your agenda and position.

 

Further, I certainly do not accept that even demonstrating that a specific claim was incorrect, would do away with a movement of this sort, or that by itself would cause massive withdrawal of support. If that was the case, Trump would have zero support by now, given how many times he offered incorrect figures and information. That you assert it would "obviously" be different, doesn't carry a whole lot of weight.

 

The BLM being "marxist" is just another nonsense injected into this. Some leaders might be, or claim to be. I'm pretty sure most people identifying with the BLM's message would be surprised to learn that they are "marxists". Kinda doubt the vast majority of them got any well-defined ideological-political positions, never mind a school of thought within Communism.

 

Your alternative narrative regarding Floyd's death and related circumstances, very much like the treatment of figures, statistics etc. is based on highlighting whatever elements, regardless of their significance, just so long as it "supports" your agenda and views - in this case, basically a denial and rejection of the facts and issues you're bent on dismissing.

On 7/19/2020 at 5:49 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Some resort to filth because they don't have anything else. Isn't calling someone a "t***" on TVF breaking the rules?

 

You mean like the President you support on these topics? Because, you know, before he started trying to pin derogatory, insulting nicknames to each and every political opponent or critic, it wasn't all that acceptable. You yourself follow Trump's lead on this in many other topics, while referring to Democrats or whomever. 

On 7/17/2020 at 6:43 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Maybe the black community can take some of that police defunded money and figure out how to keep fathers in the lives of the kids. Redirect the goals of the young. Education, work hard, don't fight the police.

Every other minority have figured out how to succeed but it seems the blacks haven't got the hang of it yet, even with the affirmative action help the blacks get.

 

What "police defunded money" would that be?

Post with a paywall and youtube links removed

2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

What "police defunded money" would that be?

I think as per usual we read a eye catching headline and run with it if it suits our agenda.

most police forces have to try to deal with many situations that really shouldn’t be there job for example mental health issues so removing this portion of there budget and allocating it to proper health professionals makes both financial and common sense.

Where is this crazy left everyone talks about?

If voters would actually listen to each other instead of grasping at what the ruling dividing class want you to believe you may be surprised how much in common you actually have

2 hours ago, Morch said: