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Just now, Logosone said:

We don't know these were "decent" girls. For all we know these were anything but. The heavy alcohol cache certainly supports the bar girl/professional dater hypothesis.

Yeah, my step-daughter is horrified if any of her friends drink beer (let alone spirits).

But maybe Bangkok is different?

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35 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Sounds like the old time Hustler letters from 70-80's, maybe it was Penthouse. But you know the old <deleted> fantasy letters. Same...Same.

ahaaaa deleted....

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3 minutes ago, Airalee said:

This really reminds me of the “what happened to all the nice guys” lamentations that we hear so much about in the west.  Never has the answer been posed more succinctly than by this “best of Craigslist” post from 2007.


 

 

"What Happened to All the Nice Guys?"

 

I see this question posted with some regularity in the personals section, so I thought I'd take a minute to explain things to the ladies out there that haven't figured it out. 

What happened to all the nice guys? 

The answer is simple: you did. 

See, if you think back, really hard, you might vaguely remember a Platonic guy pal who always seemed to want to spend time with you. He'd tag along with you when you went shopping, stop by your place for a movie when you were lonely but didn't feel like going out, or even sit there and hold you while you sobbed and told him about how horribly the (other) guy that you were <deleted> treated you. 

At the time, you probably joked with your girlfriends about how he was a little puppy dog, always following you around, trying to do things to get you to pay attention to him. They probably teased you because they thought he had a crush on you. Given that his behavior was, admittedly, a little pathetic, you vehemently denied having any romantic feelings for him, and buttressed your position by claiming that you were "just friends." Besides, he totally wasn't your type. I mean, he was a little too short, or too bald, or too fat, or too poor, or didn't know how to dress himself, or basically be or do any of the things that your tall, good-looking, fit, rich, stylish boyfriend at the time pulled off with such ease. 

Eventually, your Platonic buddy drifted away, as your relationship with the boyfriend got more serious and spending time with this other guy was, admittedly, a little weird, if you werent dating him. More time passed, and the boyfriend eventually cheated on you, or became boring, or you realized that the things that attracted you to him weren't the kinds of things that make for a good, long-term relationship. So, now, you're single again, and after having tried the bar scene for several months having only encountered players and douche bags, you wonder, "What happened to all the nice guys?" 

Well, once again, you did. 

You ignored the nice guy. You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. You laughed at his consideration and resented his devotion. You valued the aloof boyfriend more than the attentive "just-a-" friend. Eventually, he took the hint and moved on with his life. He probably came to realize, one day, that women aren't really attracted to guys who hold doors open; or make dinners just because; or buy you a Christmas gift that you mentioned, in passing, that you really wanted five months ago; or listen when you're upset; or hold you when you cry. He came to realize that, if he wanted a woman like you, he'd have to act more like the boyfriend that you had. He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an <deleted> than he ever wanted to be. 

Fact is, now, he's probably getting laid, and in a way, your ultimate rejection of him is to thank for that. And I'm sorry that it took the complete absence of "nice guys" in your life for you to realize that you missed them and wanted them. Most women will only have a handful of nice guys stumble into their lives, if that. 

So, if you're looking for a nice guy, here's what you do: 

1.) Build a time machine. 
2.) Go back a few years and pull your head out of your ass. 
3.) Take a look at what's right in front of you and grab ahold of it. 

I suppose the other possibility is that you STILL don't really want a nice guy, but you feel the social pressure to at least appear to have matured beyond your infantile taste in men. In which case, you might be in luck, because the nice guy you claim to want has, in reality, shed his nice guy mantle and is out there looking to unleash his cynicism and resentment onto someone just like you. 

If you were five years younger. 

So, please: either stop misrepresenting what you want, or own up to the fact that you've <deleted> yourself over. You're getting older, after all. It's time to excise the <deleted> and deal with reality. You didn't want a nice guy then, and he certainly doesn't <deleted> want you, now. 

Sincerely, 

A Recovering Nice Guy 

 

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/483318927.html

 

Get some therapy and have a nice soapie....

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1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

I have dated both fairly extensively.

The problem I found with these Bangkok educated, supposed good job girls is they have tremendous debt and are usually seeking a total western lifestyle.  Many are attractive and have style, but that obviously comes at a cost.  And generally they are seeking partners close their age.

The girls in Bangkok I know who are with much older expats, the guys are very wealthy living in 80,000 b a month condos.

Anyway, much better I think to find a down to earth lady in a developing area such as Korat or Khon Kaen or other areas in Isaan.

'Seekers' from both sides have unique expectations!

80k per month for the apartment, but...

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2 hours ago, Pilotman said:

Anecdotally, I would say that very few of the younger foreign men in Bangkok are what they are looking for. A lot are either nomads, so basically dropped out and looking for the easy life, teachers on a lowish salary that again just want an easy life in a nice tropical location and/or drifters, or tourists.  Certainly, international law firms, banks, large companies and investment houses have expats in Thailand that are young and on an 'expat package' and are usually high flyers, but finding them would be difficult for any Thai girl, unless they  are already moving in those circles and attend the same functions and social events, in other words, that they are wealthy Thais from a good family.  Their best bet is still social media, but here.  they will have to kiss an awful lot of frogs before a Prince appears.  

Pilotman snigger, along with air stewardesses you just went way down the dating scale. Way down.

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The original post from a blog (dan in thailand) sounds like it never happened - totally made up - like it's trying to sell a dating site or something,

but...

 

that post by Airalee is nothing short of genius ("What Happened to All the Nice Guys?") - that's the perfect answer, I'd give it 100 likes if I could. 

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2 hours ago, Airalee said:

This really reminds me of the “what happened to all the nice guys” lamentations that we hear so much about in the west.  Never has the answer been posed more succinctly than by this “best of Craigslist” post from 2007.


 

 

"What Happened to All the Nice Guys?"

 

I see this question posted with some regularity in the personals section, so I thought I'd take a minute to explain things to the ladies out there that haven't figured it out. 

What happened to all the nice guys? 

The answer is simple: you did. 

See, if you think back, really hard, you might vaguely remember a Platonic guy pal who always seemed to want to spend time with you. He'd tag along with you when you went shopping, stop by your place for a movie when you were lonely but didn't feel like going out, or even sit there and hold you while you sobbed and told him about how horribly the (other) guy that you were <deleted> treated you. 

At the time, you probably joked with your girlfriends about how he was a little puppy dog, always following you around, trying to do things to get you to pay attention to him. They probably teased you because they thought he had a crush on you. Given that his behavior was, admittedly, a little pathetic, you vehemently denied having any romantic feelings for him, and buttressed your position by claiming that you were "just friends." Besides, he totally wasn't your type. I mean, he was a little too short, or too bald, or too fat, or too poor, or didn't know how to dress himself, or basically be or do any of the things that your tall, good-looking, fit, rich, stylish boyfriend at the time pulled off with such ease. 

Eventually, your Platonic buddy drifted away, as your relationship with the boyfriend got more serious and spending time with this other guy was, admittedly, a little weird, if you werent dating him. More time passed, and the boyfriend eventually cheated on you, or became boring, or you realized that the things that attracted you to him weren't the kinds of things that make for a good, long-term relationship. So, now, you're single again, and after having tried the bar scene for several months having only encountered players and douche bags, you wonder, "What happened to all the nice guys?" 

Well, once again, you did. 

You ignored the nice guy. You used him for emotional intimacy without reciprocating, in kind, with physical intimacy. You laughed at his consideration and resented his devotion. You valued the aloof boyfriend more than the attentive "just-a-" friend. Eventually, he took the hint and moved on with his life. He probably came to realize, one day, that women aren't really attracted to guys who hold doors open; or make dinners just because; or buy you a Christmas gift that you mentioned, in passing, that you really wanted five months ago; or listen when you're upset; or hold you when you cry. He came to realize that, if he wanted a woman like you, he'd have to act more like the boyfriend that you had. He probably cleaned up his look, started making some money, and generally acted like more of an <deleted> than he ever wanted to be. 

Fact is, now, he's probably getting laid, and in a way, your ultimate rejection of him is to thank for that. And I'm sorry that it took the complete absence of "nice guys" in your life for you to realize that you missed them and wanted them. Most women will only have a handful of nice guys stumble into their lives, if that. 

So, if you're looking for a nice guy, here's what you do: 

1.) Build a time machine. 
2.) Go back a few years and pull your head out of your ass. 
3.) Take a look at what's right in front of you and grab ahold of it. 

I suppose the other possibility is that you STILL don't really want a nice guy, but you feel the social pressure to at least appear to have matured beyond your infantile taste in men. In which case, you might be in luck, because the nice guy you claim to want has, in reality, shed his nice guy mantle and is out there looking to unleash his cynicism and resentment onto someone just like you. 

If you were five years younger. 

So, please: either stop misrepresenting what you want, or own up to the fact that you've <deleted> yourself over. You're getting older, after all. It's time to excise the <deleted> and deal with reality. You didn't want a nice guy then, and he certainly doesn't <deleted> want you, now. 

Sincerely, 

A Recovering Nice Guy 

 

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/483318927.html

 

WOW..... from 2007        pretty good read !    

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