Russia meddled in Scottish vote, unclear on Brexit - UK parliamentary report

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’d hold off on claims of what the ‘British public saw through’.

 

They are are about to learn exactly what it is Brexit is going to mean for them.

 

They might then develop a little more clarity of vision.

It's been 4 years - we can't hold off forever.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again your rambling and unfounded imagination is fixated on me and I find myself reminding you I am not the topic of discussion.

Don't flatter yourself - a reply does not equate to a fixation.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

it's worth to sit back and think about the ramifications of Russia interfering with the leave vote.... it may be all or partially wrong and a New vote (without any outside interference/influence) may give the correct result, I always doubted the UK people were that stuxxx to leave without knowing the full consequences of the act

Two different things there. But the GE in 2019 indicated the the British people were even more sure of what they wanted; this after more than 3 extra years of post referendum interference from several pro EU sources.

[sandyf]

5 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Ah and there we have it in all its majesty.

Brexiteer democracy.

No-one is allowed to change their mind.

Exactly, brexiteer logic.

If the election was rigged, so what, the result stands.

If athletes break the rules, so what, they keep their medals.

If horses take drugs, so what, they won the race.

If people want a divorce, tough luck, divorce will be banned.

 

Brexiteers cannot see mistakes so there is nothing for them to recognise. One thing is for sure, Bojo will be out on a limb if NS asks again for a Section 30.

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, sandyf said:

Exactly, brexiteer logic.

If the election was rigged, so what, the result stands.

If athletes break the rules, so what, they keep their medals.

If horses take drugs, so what, they won the race.

If people want a divorce, tough luck, divorce will be banned.

 

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What athlete breaking the rules and keeping his medals are you referring to ?

Is that a reference to Ben Johnson ?

[sandyf]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

What athlete breaking the rules and keeping his medals are you referring to ?

Is that a reference to Ben Johnson ?

Obviously the context went over your head.

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Exactly, brexiteer logic.

If the election was rigged, so what, the result stands.

If athletes break the rules, so what, they keep their medals.

If horses take drugs, so what, they won the race.

If people want a divorce, tough luck, divorce will be banned.

 

Brexiteers cannot see mistakes so there is nothing for them to recognise. One thing is for sure, Bojo will be out on a limb if NS asks again for a Section 30.

No, its yet another attempt by the losers to try to get another election/referendum because they lost.

The result was close/Lots of voters would have died by now/Russian interference all reasons given by the losers to have the result over turned  

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Obviously the context went over your head.

And it's still climbing to cruising altitude!

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Of course they matter, what are you on about?

Evidently not, otherwise the Government would have responded to interference by a hostile foreign nation in what is unquestionably the most important vote in decades.

 

As it is, the Government have failed to even investigate Russia’s interference.

 

One could be mistaken for believing the Russian interference was welcome.

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Evidently not, otherwise the Government would have responded to interference by a hostile foreign nation in what is unquestionably the most important vote in decades.

 

As it is, the Government have failed to even investigate Russia’s interference.

 

One could be mistaken for believing the Russian interference was welcome.

In what way did Russia interfere ?

[melvinmelvin]

fruitfull debate this meddling chat

[RuamRudy]

8 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

In what way did Russia interfere ?

We don't know because the government chose to not investigate. See the OP. 

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

fruitfull debate this meddling chat

It’s certainly exposed some remarkable head shuffles.

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Two different things there. But the GE in 2019 indicated the the British people were even more sure of what they wanted; this after more than 3 extra years of post referendum interference from several pro EU sources.

GE 2019 people voted for a Brexit Deal,  not for a No Deal, they did wanted to voted for another Brexit referendum but people were not allowed to do so,  BJ and his gang didn't want/allow another Brexit referendum, they knew they would lose, thus kept saying the same over and over, people already voted no need for a second referendum, no right to change their minds,  I am quite sure you were on that group as well. Sure people had the right to change their minds, they voted on a Brexit misleading campaign, people on the street kept asking for the 2nd referendum.... thus GE 2019 not a confirmation of Brexit barely a mandate to BJ instructing him to make a deal, people voted for a NO Deal Brexit and people voted to have a final say on the deal, is BJ following the people's wish/vote....nahhhh it doesn't look like, it does look like he doesn't give a rats ass to what the people voted for on the GE 2019

[melvinmelvin]

13 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

GE 2019 people voted for a Brexit Deal,  not for a No Deal, they did wanted to voted for another Brexit referendum but people were not allowed to do so,  BJ and his gang didn't want/allow another Brexit referendum, they knew they would lose, thus kept saying the same over and over, people already voted no need for a second referendum, no right to change their minds,  I am quite sure you were on that group as well. Sure people had the right to change their minds, they voted on a Brexit misleading campaign, people on the street kept asking for the 2nd referendum.... thus GE 2019 not a confirmation of Brexit barely a mandate to BJ instructing him to make a deal, people voted for a NO Deal Brexit and people voted to have a final say on the deal, is BJ following the people's wish/vote....nahhhh it doesn't look like, it does look like he doesn't give a rats ass to what the people voted for on the GE 2019

re BJ and rats ass

bend it any way you like; the main culprit would be the Parliament

 

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

Two different things there. But the GE in 2019 indicated the the British people were even more sure of what they wanted; this after more than 3 extra years of post referendum interference from several pro EU sources.

OK according to your logic in 2019 the people voted for Johnsons oven ready deal.

Where is it?

[Mavideol]

12 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

re BJ and rats ass

bend it any way you like; the main culprit would be the Parliament

 

sure, he has a majority that's why his arrogance and not given a damn about the people's vote to final word on the DEAL

[3NUMBAS]

more remainer tosh to try to aleviate their loss of the vote to leave EU europe cartel

[Bluespunk]

johnson handed his behind on a platter during PMQs today. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/22/pmqs-keir-starmer-criticises-boris-johnson-over-russia-report-delay?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[evadgib]

Boris pretty much torpedoed everything fired at him during todays PMQ's ????

[Rookiescot]

59 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

johnson handed his behind on a platter during PMQs today. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/22/pmqs-keir-starmer-criticises-boris-johnson-over-russia-report-delay?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Johnson is becoming increasingly unhinged at PMQ's.

No doubt him and Dom will be working on a way of suspending it or indeed closing parliament down for a while.

[Lormak]

Boris performed superbly at today's PMQ.  Ran rings around Starmer.

The Russia report is a further pathetic attempt to disrupt Brexit. The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the dwindling Dad's Army of Remainers is really becoming tiresome.  Face it lads - you lost and we are out.  Move on!  Go find someone to take the knee to.

[Throatwobbler]

50 minutes ago, Lormak said:

Boris performed superbly at today's PMQ.  Ran rings around Starmer.

The Russia report is a further pathetic attempt to disrupt Brexit. The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the dwindling Dad's Army of Remainers is really becoming tiresome.  Face it lads - you lost and we are out.  Move on!  Go find someone to take the knee to.

Dad’s army seems to be rather the wrong name to call the remainders as it was the old who voted in droves for Brexit. Somebodies numbers are dwindling fast though and it is not the remainders, again look at the people who voted for Brexit. Waiting to see what all the Brexit loving pensioners will be saying when the grim realities of Brexit hit home and the pound and their pensions become worthless.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, Mavideol said:

GE 2019 people voted for a Brexit Deal,  not for a No Deal, they did wanted to voted for another Brexit referendum but people were not allowed to do so,  BJ and his gang didn't want/allow another Brexit referendum, they knew they would lose, thus kept saying the same over and over, people already voted no need for a second referendum, no right to change their minds,  I am quite sure you were on that group as well. Sure people had the right to change their minds, they voted on a Brexit misleading campaign, people on the street kept asking for the 2nd referendum.... thus GE 2019 not a confirmation of Brexit barely a mandate to BJ instructing him to make a deal, people voted for a NO Deal Brexit and people voted to have a final say on the deal, is BJ following the people's wish/vote....nahhhh it doesn't look like, it does look like he doesn't give a rats ass to what the people voted for on the GE 2019

Laugh emoticon.

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

fruitfull debate this meddling chat

Like a fruit medley.

 

[Kadilo]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

johnson handed his behind on a platter during PMQs today. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/22/pmqs-keir-starmer-criticises-boris-johnson-over-russia-report-delay?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Totally battered. 

[evadgib]

7 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Totally battered. 

Boris ate him for breakfast....

Again! ????

[sandyf]

16 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

No, its yet another attempt by the losers to try to get another election/referendum because they lost.

The result was close/Lots of voters would have died by now/Russian interference all reasons given by the losers to have the result over turned  

There was obviously a reason Bojo refused to let the report be published last October, the most obvious being it would make him look bad before the election.

It should be more of a concern when UK politicians interfere with voting more so than the Russians.

[sandyf]

14 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

more remainer tosh to try to aleviate their loss of the vote to leave EU europe cartel

Garbage, it has happened and those that voted for it will have to learn to live with it. For many it is now a question of damage limitation.

Only last week, for the fist time in the their history the Welsh parliament held a debate on independence. Support is now increasing in all devolved nations, so much for a UNITED kingdom.

 

For the first time in its history, the Welsh parliament will on Wednesday debate a motion on independence for Wales.

The debate in the Senedd has been called by nationalist party Plaid Cymru on the back of opinion polls showing increased support for breaking away from the UK over the course of the coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/wales-independence-welsh-debate-parliament-plaid-cymru-a9619091.html

[sandyf]

11 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Johnson is becoming increasingly unhinged at PMQ's.

No doubt him and Dom will be working on a way of suspending it or indeed closing parliament down for a while.

Quite. I usually watch it each week and he never addresses the point in question, just grabs any stick that comes to mind.

Yesterday Starmer asked why the report had been delayed and got a lecture on the brexit vote as a response, like a childish tantrum.

 

It was the same in the urgent question, Brokenshire was asked by Lewis from the ISC if special advisors would have any say regarding the ISC and the question was avoided. Another MP pointed out to Brokenshire that he had not answered the question from Lewis, and again no answer forthcoming.

It really is a waste of time and taxpayer money if questions are to be ignored. It is time the speaker insisted on the point being addressed or a refusal to answer being acknowledged.