Aviation authority expects sector to recover in the fourth quarter

[Thaistucm]

"China is not much affected by Covid-19."

 

What planet is he on?

[dave moir]

China still has a problem with covid 19 also bubonic plague and flooding!!! Does Thailand really think there will be mass tourism from China in the near future! 

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

especially when international flights allow the return of Chinese tourists,

God forbid !

[bodga]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Airlines must also comply with social distancing measures by leaving one seat empty between passengers, said CAAT director-general Chula Sukmanop.

How stupid, so fares will be way  higher and less  people will travel,  good  luck  with bringing the masses  back except the plague  of  locusts, Chinese.

[Pilotman]

There is 'putting on a brave face' and being 'positive and optimistic' in the face of disaster, and then there is blind unreasoned optimism, lying to yourself and others, failing to see and plan for the obvious, and of course plain stupidity.  I wonder which side of the fence this falls on.  

[Cake Monster]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He said international visitors may have a chance to return to Thailand and the first will be an Asian group, such as South Korea, Japan and China, especially from China who are currently unable to travel abroad. If the Covid-19 situation is resolved and Thailand can open the country for the travellers, he believes the Chinese will be the first group of potential tourists returning to Thailand with high purchasing power as the economy in China is not much affected by Covid-19.

Can these people only think in one Dimensional China all the time.

The Chinese are effectively banned from traveling at the moment, and with all the outbreaks of Covid that are happening within China, that is not going to change any time soon.

The CCP are fully aware of the perception that is held Worldwide at the moment of the Chinese, and they will do their very utmost to prevent any more International Relations damage. And if that means the  Tourists are grounded, then that is the way it will be.

With the onset of Winter just around the corner, many are expecting the new 2nd wave of Covid to happen, and if it does , - Bang goes any chance of any Tourist revival. 

[Bangkok Barry]

5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

You have to give Thais for their optimism or is it just that they can't face reality.

I think that applies in many places. People can't accept that they cannot go around as they did a few months ago. They cannot accept that the virus is still killing people every day all over the world and there is no vaccine and may never be one (although there are optimistic (!) reports that one will be developed). They ignore the fact that in many places where restrictions have been lifted cases have risen again. They are, naturally, impatient to get back to normal, but that might not be for a year or two in some circumstances such as travel or even having a job and the money to travel. This is going to take a very long time, and in today's instant I-want-it-now society terms that is very difficult for many to accept.

[mickymouse1]

Dream on.... when did they say " Tourists and airports are back on track again?

[Peterphuket]

 

'Aviation authority expects sector to recover in the fourth quarter.'

 

....and then they woke up.

[Laughing Gravy]

47 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I think that applies in many places. People can't accept that they cannot go around as they did a few months ago. They cannot accept that the virus is still killing people every day all over the world and there is no vaccine and may never be one (although there are optimistic (!) reports that one will be developed). They ignore the fact that in many places where restrictions have been lifted cases have risen again. They are, naturally, impatient to get back to normal, but that might not be for a year or two in some circumstances such as travel or even having a job and the money to travel. This is going to take a very long time, and in today's instant I-want-it-now society terms that is very difficult for many to accept.

I am going to disagree with you,. The UK government, the US and most European governments too are not talking absolute rollocks with audacious predictions and trying to fool the people.

 

There is a difference from being impatience and spinning a big fat yarn in the hope that people will believe it. But Thailand is an expert at this as they have been feeding BS for countless years and the little piggies lap it up, so easily.

 

The people, politicians are too scared to tell the truth and say "hey, things are rough at the moment. Lets tell the truth and prepare for the worse". Instead lets all put our heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening.

Edited July 23, 2020 by Laughing Gravy
update required

[Aussie Col]

5 hours ago, yellowboat said:

They will be lucky if all goes back to normal before lunar new year.   Next month, Vietnam will starts talks with China about flights between the two countries.  The US infection rate will continue to spook many countries.  And like somebody already stated, who wants to travel with all these crazy restrictions.   If you really want to travel comfortably, buy a nice sailboat on Bahtsold.com 

I think it's obvious that Vietnam will open it's borders before Thailand just to get that foreign currency that Thailand doesn't want, and before the Philippines open it's borders and lets also not forget Chinese do not spend a lot of money when they are here, so Vietnam will want tourists from Western countries as well which Thailand doesn't want.

[Deli]

And x-mas happens on April 1st.

As long as they don't allow free travel, it will be dead.

Watch the unemployed people without assistance, when migrant workers will be brought in

[Time to grow]

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

recover in the fourth quarter

This is the most absurd statement I have heard. The airline and associated tourist industry will not recover this year, next year, next decade, or ever. It is finished and those that hang on for a hope and a prayer will suffer the worst.

Read the writing on the wall.

[CygnusX1]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

The CCP are fully aware of the perception that is held Worldwide at the moment of the Chinese, and they will do their very utmost to prevent any more International Relations damage.

Over the past couple of months, the CCP have been doing their very utmost to CAUSE damage to international relations with many countries.

[keithkarmann]

4 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

That old childish concept of losing face and what is real. It is just one of the reasons that has kept back Thailand from being a much better, wealthier and healthy country. I know it won't change. Not in my lifetime.

When people worry about losing face I just wonder if part of the brain has not developed properly. When you have difficulty admitting you are wrong then you have big problems. Trying not to Thai bash but I have noticed that they have an inbuilt abilty to try and push the blame onto someone else, rather than accept blame themselves. If I do wrong I do not have a problem admitting it and I move on.

When I met my present Thai wife and something went wrong I usually got the blame. She has improved now and will admitt when she has made a mistake although not 100% yet.

 

[outsider]

"Aviation authority expects sector to recover in the fourth quarter: The CAAT estimates that in the fourth quarter of the year, airlines will see recovery during the high season. Also, if there is no second outbreak of Covid-19, international travel should begin at the end of the year which will enable recovery of the aviation business."

 

In other news:

 

"The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) has hinted at the possibility of extending the international commercial flight ban according to the National News  Bureau of Thailand... until December."

 

CAAT - you do know, that December is the LAST month of the fourth quarter of any year, don't you?

 

[digger70]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Aviation authority expects sector to recover in the fourth quarter

What they expect and what is/not going to happen are Two different things .

Myself I think they maybe Dreaming.

But hey let them Dream ,Everyone Dreams from time to time.  ????

[Fex Bluse]

Such typical idiocy so common here. 

No coordination between government and industry. Every Pooyai has a different view. 

The entire global economy has been ruined, billions of people have been effected. People who have lost investments, income and other wealth will not soon be spending money freely. It will be yearS before things recover. 

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Fex Bluse

[steven100]

7 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

Such typical idiocy so common here. 

No coordination between government and industry. Every Pooyai has a different view. 

The entire global economy has been ruined, billions of people have been effected. People who have lost investments, income and other wealth will not soon be spending money freely. It will be yearS before things recover. 

 

Everything you said is correct, people worldwide lost thousands and hundreds of thousands of investment dollars because of this pandemic. It will take years to recover properly. imo

[fraggleRock]

Thailand, the place of choice for the likes ofJosef Fritzl and co. Says it all really.... 

[rickudon]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

During the week July 12-18, the number of international passengers was 13,422, a 5.7-per-cent decrease from the previous week while there were 845 international flights, an increase of 6 per cent.

Wow! That's an average of 16 passengers per flight!

[AndrewMciver]

CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA 

 

Thailand has become the United States of China

[geisha]

Those figures do not add up. 13000 international passengers, and 845 flights. Borders closed. No tourists allowed. Who’s telling porkies ? 

[Don Mega]

5 hours ago, rickudon said:

Wow! That's an average of 16 passengers per flight!

Wonder how many were cargo flights ?

[0815]

And the first sentence is "When Chinese Tourists..."

[hobobo]

On 7/23/2020 at 12:05 PM, PFMills said:

Which year?

My first thought too!

[Aussie Col]

With zero tourists allowed to come into Thailand there is zero chance of a 4th quarter recovery

[Stargeezr]

Well, myself and a dozen friends will not be flying from Canada to Thailand

this year. There may be a couple who will go to Vietnam, as they have been

planning to visit that country for a couple years, and decided to go there this

Winter. I am on the fence for now but will think about it in November when the snow is on the

ground, and the temps will be below zero c.

Geezer

[Aussie Col]

3 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Well, myself and a dozen friends will not be flying from Canada to Thailand

this year. There may be a couple who will go to Vietnam, as they have been

planning to visit that country for a couple years, and decided to go there this

Winter. I am on the fence for now but will think about it in November when the snow is on the

ground, and the temps will be below zero c.

Geezer

You wont be alone. Anybody who enters Thailand with these new rules needs their brains tested.

Hello Vietnam and the Philippines

[bristolgeoff]

I think anyone  would believe that flights are not going to happen until the next high seasons or dec at the latest safely.The chinese first allowed in I don,t know,If they open the gates then everyone who is clear will be allowed in

Edited July 28, 2020 by bristolgeoff