Two returnees from US test positive for Covid-19

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Two returnees from US test positive for Covid-19

By The Nation

 

 

Two new Covid-19 cases were confirmed in state quarantine on Tuesday (July 28), while there were no deaths over the 24-hour period, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) reported.

 

Tuesday is the 64th day without a domestic case since May.

 

The two newest patients are returnees from the United States.

 

As of Tuesday, the total number of confirmed cases in the country stood at 3,297 (360 tested positive in state quarantine), of whom 128 are being treated, 3,111 have recovered and 58 have succumbed.

 

Globally, the total number of confirmed cases has gone beyond 16.6 million, up by 229,000 with 10.2 million patients recovered and 652,000 dead.

 

Thailand is ranked as the 106th country with the most cases, while the US still tops the list with 4.4 million Covid-19 cases, followed by Brazil at 2.4 million and India 1.4 million.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392047

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Were they repatriated Thais or a family member who came back in, or one of the others currently allowed with the proper documentation.  The reason I ask is that unlike a Thai who is repatriated the others must get the Covid free cert before flying..

[khwaibah]

They had these on.????

  

[richard_smith237]

41 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Were they repatriated Thais or a family member who came back in, or one of the others currently allowed with the proper documentation.  The reason I ask is that unlike a Thai who is repatriated the others must get the Covid free cert before flying..

Are we sure of this? 
 

I know it’s been mentioned in a few threads already, but can anyone attest that their Thai Wife or close friend has been repatriated recently (in July) without having taken a preflight Covid-19 test?

 

it would be interesting to know for sure, just to make sure ‘suspicions’ voiced in others threads are now not being quoted as fact. 

 

on this subject - quarantine is serving it’s purpose !

 

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Were they repatriated Thais or a family member who came back in, or one of the others currently allowed with the proper documentation.  The reason I ask is that unlike a Thai who is repatriated the others must get the Covid free cert before flying..

Sounds like they may have been two more Military members who came back in from Hawaii.  I thought Covid was under control in Hawaii.

[RotBenz8888]

23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Are we sure of this? 
 

I know it’s been mentioned in a few threads already, but can anyone attest that their Thai Wife or close friend has been repatriated recently (in July) without having taken a preflight Covid-19 test?

 

it would be interesting to know for sure, just to make sure ‘suspicions’ voiced in others threads are now not being quoted as fact. 

 

on this subject - quarantine is serving it’s purpose !

 

I have a luuk krung friend who arrived last week, she did not take any covid test before her flight, only fit to fly certificate required. Of course, we all know that embassies have different rules, so some might have other requirements. 

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, RotBenz8888 said:

I have a luuk krung friend who arrived last week, she did not take any covid test before her flight, only fit to fly certificate required. Of course, we all know that embassies have different rules, so some might have other requirements. 

So she is a Thai National then

[RotBenz8888]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

So she is a Thai National then

Yes, she's in SQ now and took her first test a few days ago. 

[Valentine]

Just hope the authorities don;t let their guard down with the returnees as it just takes one to set off a chain reaction

[Bender Rodriguez]

go test random 1000 people in bangkok ... wonder how many are positive, but not sick, no symptoms, no family or friends or coworkers in hospital or dead....remember 60+ plus without spread...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

go test random 1000 people in bangkok ... wonder how many are positive, but not sick, no symptoms, no family or friends or coworkers in hospital or dead....remember 60+ plus without spread...

 

There's no correlation between the presence of CV symptoms and the ability to spread the virus to others.

 

A person infected with the virus who shows no symptoms is just as able to spread it to others as someone with symptoms.

[khwaibah]

Bangkok Post front page. Two Thai solders back from Hawaii.

[sscc]

37 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

go test random 1000 people in bangkok ... wonder how many are positive, but not sick, no symptoms, no family or friends or coworkers in hospital or dead....remember 60+ plus without spread...

 

 

They have tested over 7,000 in Rayong,  all negative. 

The word was not even mentioned ? 

 

Does Rayong count for you,  or is Thailand just Bangkok ?

[DavisH]

40 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

go test random 1000 people in bangkok ... wonder how many are positive, but not sick, no symptoms, no family or friends or coworkers in hospital or dead....remember 60+ plus without spread...

7000 were tested in Rayong. 0 positive. 

[DavisH]

35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

There's no correlation between the presence of CV symptoms and the ability to spread the virus to others.

 

A person infected with the virus who shows no symptoms is just as able to spread it to others as someone with symptoms.

What's your evidence for that? So someone counghing everywhere spreads the virus as efficiently as someone with no symptoms? You are aying then that the virus spreads easily via ones breath or via contact infection (nother of these are considered important in virus transmission). 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, DavisH said:

What's your evidence for that? So someone counghing everywhere spreads the virus as efficiently as someone with no symptoms? You are aying then that the virus spreads easily via ones breath or via contact infection (nother of these are considered important in virus transmission). 

 

Coughing spreads the virus.... So does sneezing... singing... breathing... apparently. If the person is infected.

 

But people can be infected with the virus and not sneeze or cough at all, but just have other CV symptoms such as fever, loss of taste/smell, fatigue, etc etc.  And still spread the virus to others around them.

 

Quote

Current evidence suggests that COVID-19 spreads between people through direct, indirect (through contaminated objects or surfaces), or close contact with infected people via mouth and nose secretions. These include saliva, respiratory secretions or secretion droplets. These are released from the mouth or nose when an infected person coughs, sneezes, speaks or sings, for example. People who are in close contact (within 1 metre) with an infected person can catch COVID-19 when those infectious droplets get into their mouth, nose or eyes.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-how-is-covid-19-transmitted

 

Quote

There have been reported outbreaks of COVID-19 in some closed settings, such as restaurants, nightclubs, places of worship or places of work where people may be shouting, talking, or singing.  In these outbreaks, aerosol transmission, particularly in these indoor locations where there are crowded and inadequately ventilated spaces where infected persons spend long periods of time with others, cannot be ruled out.  More studies are urgently needed to investigate such instances and assess their significance for transmission of COVID-19.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, DavisH said:

What's your evidence for that? So someone counghing everywhere spreads the virus as efficiently as someone with no symptoms? You are aying then that the virus spreads easily via ones breath or via contact infection (nother of these are considered important in virus transmission). 

 

Coughing spreads the virus.... So does sneezing... singing... breathing... apparently. If the person is infected.

 

But people can be infected with the virus and not sneeze or cough at all, but just have other CV symptoms such as fever, loss of taste/smell, fatigue,  OR no symptoms whatsoever and still spread the virus to others around them.

 

Quote

Current evidence suggests that COVID-19 spreads between people through direct, indirect (through contaminated objects or surfaces), or close contact with infected people via mouth and nose secretions. These include saliva, respiratory secretions or secretion droplets. These are released from the mouth or nose when an infected person coughs, sneezes, speaks or sings, for example. People who are in close contact (within 1 metre) with an infected person can catch COVID-19 when those infectious droplets get into their mouth, nose or eyes.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-how-is-covid-19-transmitted

 

Quote

There have been reported outbreaks of COVID-19 in some closed settings, such as restaurants, nightclubs, places of worship or places of work where people may be shouting, talking, or singing.  In these outbreaks, aerosol transmission, particularly in these indoor locations where there are crowded and inadequately ventilated spaces where infected persons spend long periods of time with others, cannot be ruled out.  More studies are urgently needed to investigate such instances and assess their significance for transmission of COVID-19.

 

Here's an article from the U.S. CDC on the subject of asymptomatic and/or presymptomatic spread:

 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article#:~:text=Recent epidemiologic%2C virologic%2C,symptoms never develop).

 

Quote

Recent epidemiologic, virologic, and modeling reports support the possibility of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission from persons who are presymptomatic (SARS-CoV-2 detected before symptom onset) or asymptomatic (SARS-CoV-2 detected but symptoms never develop). SARS-CoV-2 transmission in the absence of symptoms reinforces the value of measures that prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2 by infected persons who may not exhibit illness despite being infectious. Critical knowledge gaps include the relative incidence of asymptomatic and symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection, the public health interventions that prevent asymptomatic transmission, and the question of whether asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection confers protective immunity.

 

The issue is an evolving subject of research.

 

Edited July 28, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[richard_smith237]

52 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

There's no correlation between the presence of CV symptoms and the ability to spread the virus to others.

 

A person infected with the virus who shows no symptoms is just as able to spread it to others as someone with symptoms.

 

However, someone with symptoms may have a higher viral load and the will cough and sneeze significantly more often than someone who is asymptomatic.

[bobbin1955]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Are we sure of this? 
 

I know it’s been mentioned in a few threads already, but can anyone attest that their Thai Wife or close friend has been repatriated recently (in July) without having taken a preflight Covid-19 test?

 

it would be interesting to know for sure, just to make sure ‘suspicions’ voiced in others threads are now not being quoted as fact. 

 

on this subject - quarantine is serving it’s purpose !

 

Yes a friend travelled fr HK with Thai wife she DID NOT have to be tested in HK b4 flight only on arrival in BKK ......

 

[3NUMBAS]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/berlin-couple-test-positive-coronavirus-092815379.html

 

Berlin couple test positive for coronavirus after Manchester visit

Kate Connolly in Berlin

The Guardian28 July 2020

[LiamB80]

I don’t trust Thai covid numbers one single bit. The numbers in the US are fake yet the sheeple lap it up. The UK removed Thai citizens from their exempt status because they also know full well what a crock those Thai numbers are. 

[AppleCM]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Are we sure of this? 
 

I know it’s been mentioned in a few threads already, but can anyone attest that their Thai Wife or close friend has been repatriated recently (in July) without having taken a preflight Covid-19 test?

 

it would be interesting to know for sure, just to make sure ‘suspicions’ voiced in others threads are now not being quoted as fact. 

 

on this subject - quarantine is serving it’s purpose !

 

Confirmed - my son and wife, both Thai nationals, were on a repatriation flight last week from LAX.  They needed Fit to Travel forms from their doctor but NO pre-flight Covid-19 test.  Currently qualifying expats from the USA are required to have a negative pre-flight Covid-19 test within 72 hours of departure according to Thai Embassy in DC.

[AndrewMciver]

These returning repatriation flights are looking well dodgy. 

 

Especially involving US citizens. Does anyone know if US flights stop of in Europe?

[AndrewMciver]

1 hour ago, LiamB80 said:

I don’t trust Thai covid numbers one single bit. The numbers in the US are fake yet the sheeple lap it up. The UK removed Thai citizens from their exempt status because they also know full well what a crock those Thai numbers are. 

 

Thailand is exempt because the number of Chinese that connect via Thailand to London. It was to stop that loophole. 

 

What number of Thai's travel abroad to Europe? I doubt the figure goes into the millions.

[srowndedbyh2o]

18 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Sounds like they may have been two more Military members who came back in from Hawaii.  I thought Covid was under control in Hawaii.

“Under control” is relative. So far in July, Hawaii has reported 850 new coronavirus cases ― the vast majority of which are on Oahu. That compares to just 276 cases in all of June.

I don’t know if their count includes people like the Thai solders that came to Hawaii, got infected, and then left, since their infections were not known until they were back in Thailand.

Also note that "Officials said the number of new COVID-19 infections reported this week is likely to be “artificially low” because of an anticipated drop in laboratory services while Hurricane Douglas neared the state".

Edited July 29, 2020 by srowndedbyh2o