With election looming, Trump hardens stance against 'Dreamer' immigrant program

[webfact]

With election looming, Trump hardens stance against 'Dreamer' immigrant program

By Steve Holland, Ted Hesson and Mica Rosenberg

 

FILE PHOTO: DACA recipients and their supporters celebrate outside the U.S. Supreme Court after the court ruled in a 5-4 vote that U.S. President Donald Trump's 2017 move to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, created in 2012 by his Democratic predecessor Barack Obama, was unlawful, in Washington, U.S. June 18, 2020. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's administration, bolstering his tough immigration stance in an election year, said on Tuesday it will reject any new applications for the so-called 'Dreamer' immigrant program and shorten the deportation protections of those whose eligibility is soon to expire.

 

A senior administration official said there would be a lengthy review of a Supreme Court ruling last month that found the administration had erred in the way that it had decided to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, in which some 644,000 immigrants are enrolled.

 

The administration said it would still consider ending the program, which shields from deportation hundreds of thousands of immigrants living in the United States illegally after entering as children - a group often called 'Dreamers.'

 

Reuters was first to report the administration plan.

 

The review is likely to take at least 100 days, putting off any final decision on the program until after the Nov. 3 election in which Trump is fighting for a second term against Democrat Joe Biden.

 

As he attempts to close the gap with Biden in the polls, the timing gives Trump breathing room on a program that is popular among many Americans. At the same time, the steps to limit the deportation protections could help to drive up enthusiasm among his core supporters.

 

The administration plans to continue its existing policy of not accepting new DACA applicants, a policy in place since 2017, the official told Reuters. It will extend the eligibility by a year for those DACA immigrants whose protection from deportation was due to expire, as long as they do not have a criminal record, the official said.

 

The previous policy had been to extend the eligibility for two years.

 

In addition, a memorandum issued by the Department of Homeland Security said permits allowing DACA recipients to travel outside the country would only be issued in "exceptional circumstances."

 

"These actions will limit the scope of the program while DHS and the administration review its legality, justifications for a possible wind-down and other considerations relevant to deciding whether to keep or wind down the DACA policy," the official said.

 

In justifying his concerns about the policy, acting secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf said the program was sending "mixed messages" on immigration enforcement.

 

"DACA makes clear that, for certain large classes of individuals, DHS will at least tolerate, if not affirmatively sanction, their ongoing violation of the immigration laws," the memo said.

 

Trump has made his hardline stance on both legal and illegal immigration a central platform of his presidency and his 2020 re-election campaign, but DACA is a complicated issue for him because of increasing public support of the program.

 

A February Reuters/Ipsos poll found 64% of adult respondents supported DACA's core tenets. A similar December 2014 poll found that 47% of adults supported DACA.

 

DECISION CRITICIZED

Leon Rodriguez, former director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services under President Barack Obama, said the move to limit the scope of the DACA program - which was introduced in 2012 under Obama - appeared to go against the intent of the Supreme Court ruling.

 

"So they think they can get away with half ending DACA renewals and persisting in not opening up first time DACA applications?" Rodriguez said. "Doubt that's what the Supreme Court had in mind."

 

Sanaa Abrar, advocacy director for immigrant rights organization United We Dream, said it was "outrageous they are absolutely refusing to do what the Supreme Court ruled, which was to return the program to its original 2012 state."

 

The Supreme Court left the door open for Trump to try again to rescind the program, ruling only that the administration had not met procedural requirements and its actions were "arbitrary and capricious."

 

The senior administration official said the administration will conduct "an exhaustive review" of the memos that it initially used to justify the winding down of the program.

 

"We're going to review all of that and all the underlying communications that informed those documents, so that when the administration next acts on DACA, it will be anchored on this comprehensive review," the official said.

 

(Reporting by Steve Holland, Ted Hesson and Mica Rosenberg, Editing by Ross Colvin and Rosalba O'Brien)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-07-29

 

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[Thailand]

Don't think that will be enough to deflect from the myriad of problems his administration has to deal with.

[Tug]

1 minute ago, Thailand said:

Don't think that will be enough to deflect from the myriad of problems his administration has to deal with.

He’s on the wrong side of that one the vast majority of Americans want to allow the dreamers a path to citizenship he’s just pandering to his base

[izod10]

good on Trump,will top future dumping too.   Same needs applying to UK too,it does indeed,but no automatic kicking out,just get shut.

[simple1]

48 minutes ago, Tug said:

He’s on the wrong side of that one the vast majority of Americans want to allow the dreamers a path to citizenship he’s just pandering to his base

Hopefully trump's anti DACA stance is another shot in the foot for his re-election efforts. the man is a cold-hearted bully of the less fortunate. trump administration is the anthesis of "The Shining City On The Hill'

 

https://ourlostfounding.com/ronald-reagan-and-the-shining-city-upon-a-hill/

Edited July 28, 2020 by simple1

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, izod10 said:

good on Trump,will top future dumping too.   Same needs applying to UK too,it does indeed,but no automatic kicking out,just get shut.

What is good, Trump ignoring the judges ruling?

[Yinn]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

tough immigration stance in an election year,

= he xenophobia because it popular with the people/voters.

+ many problem already USA people, black lifes matter, hard right etc

 

Racist is a lot of problem in USA.

[Tug]

8 minutes ago, stevenl said:

What is good, Trump ignoring the judges ruling?

Na he’s just refusing to process applications 

[TopDeadSenter]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Hopefully trump's anti DACA stance is another shot in the foot for his re-election efforts. the man is a cold-hearted bully of the less fortunate. trump administration is the anthesis of "The Shining City On The Hill'

 

https://ourlostfounding.com/ronald-reagan-and-the-shining-city-upon-a-hill/

Keeping Americans safe is not going to lose Trump votes. Wanting open borders for nefarious purposes, regardless of the hazards, will lose the democrats votes from legal, hard working, law abiding American families - not that many in that category will be voting democrat.

[simple1]

24 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Keeping Americans safe is not going to lose Trump votes. Wanting open borders for nefarious purposes, regardless of the hazards, will lose the democrats votes from legal, hard working, law abiding American families - not that many in that category will be voting democrat.

 

trump is generally demonising DACA recipients for the 'sins of thier fathers', which in fact is discrimination. By now I assume you comprehend the ideology behind the trump administration's attacks on immigration, refugees and so on; it's an extreme version of Paleo conservatism, mixed in with Stephen Miller's and others alt right opinions.

 

Fact check on DACA and crime...

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/the-data-on-daca-and-crime/

 

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by simple1

[izod10]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

trump is generally demonizing DACA recipients for the 'sins of thier fathers', which in fact is discrimination. By now I assume you comprehend the ideology behind the trump administration's attacks on immigration, refugees and so on; it's an extreme version of Paleo conservatism, mixed in with Stephen Miller's and others alt right opinions.

 

Fact check on DACA and crime...

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/the-data-on-daca-and-crime/

 

 

Simple enough?  get shut,not wanted,never will be.  UK miles ahead of future problems,London a massive mess  Now not being racist but Ill wager the ones being rid of are likely to be .....lol

[Chomper Higgot]

48 minutes ago, Yinn said:

= he xenophobia because it popular with the people/voters.

+ many problem already USA people, black lifes matter, hard right etc

 

Racist is a lot of problem in USA.

He’s pandering to the racists in his dwindling base and giving the majority of Americans who support a path to citizenship reminder not to vote for him.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, izod10 said:

Simple enough?  get shut,not wanted,never will be.  UK miles ahead of future problems,London a massive mess  Now not being racist but Ill wager the ones being rid of are likely to be .....lol

I see you had to cross the Atlantic to get your racist fix.

 

The topic has absolutely nothing to do with the UK or London.

[Thailand]

The orange president is now saying " nobody likes me" after yet again him and his offspring promoting a drug that has proven to be not just ineffective but dangerous.

What a complete richard the man is.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, Thailand said:

The orange president is now saying " nobody likes me" after yet again him and his offspring promoting a drug that has proven to be not just ineffective but dangerous.

What a complete richard the man is.

He’s whining, and nobody likes a whiner.

 

[meechai]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

= he xenophobia because it popular with the people/voters.

+ many problem already USA people, black lifes matter, hard right etc

 

Racist is a lot of problem in USA.

Actually no.........

 

In this case all that is asked is these people come in thru the front door legally

 

At least the USA has a front door open to all & a pathway to citizenship (unlike Thailand)

 

Instead what your claiming is your ok with anyone that can get past Thailand's borders should then be allowed to stay right?

Full rights eh?

 

So all those illegal Burmese workers that had children in Thailand you are in favor of giving them all Thai govt cards, education,30 baht health care etc etc yes?

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by meechai

[meechai]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

He’s on the wrong side of that one the vast majority of Americans want to allow the dreamers a path to citizenship he’s just pandering to his base

 

Not sure where you live but the vast majority here in the USA know that a legal pathway already exists

But that dreamers parents dodged the legal route does not automatically grant them special rights.....nor you & your mini base of cohorts ????

 

 

 

[Proboscis]

4 hours ago, Thailand said:

Don't think that will be enough to deflect from the myriad of problems his administration has to deal with.

The members of his base who will still be prepared to vote for him after all the Covid-19 fiasco will be too stupid and led by nonsense conspiracy theory to understand who the Dreamers are - they probably think they are a communist antifa group who brought Coronavirus to America!

[Tug]

1 hour ago, meechai said:

 

Not sure where you live but the vast majority here in the USA know that a legal pathway already exists

But that dreamers parents dodged the legal route does not automatically grant them special rights.....nor you & your mini base of cohorts ????

 

 

 

I have 4 property’s within 20 miles of our southern border I’ve known many Mexicans over the years I did a year of elementary school in Mexico I’ve known them to be hard working family oriented and religious trump is fear mongering again and attacking children who were brought here as children trump has done all he can to stop immigration leagle or otherwise the majority of Americans want the dreamers to have a path to citizenship trumps on the wrong side on this one he is what he is

[simple1]

1 hour ago, meechai said:

 

Not sure where you live but the vast majority here in the USA know that a legal pathway already exists

But that dreamers parents dodged the legal route does not automatically grant them special rights.....nor you & your mini base of cohorts ????

 

is it not correct the trump administration is reviewing whether DACA should be "maintained, rescinded or modified"? People currently covered by DACA have no assurance they will have the right to stay; the immediate impact will, at the very least, be on employment opportunities. The trump administration is attempting to punish people for an immigration 'crime' for which they had no power of decision, one assumes the majority of US citizens views such action as grossly unfair against people who otherwise comply with US law - there are facilities available to deport the small proportion, relative to US citizens, who are convicted of criminal offences.

[Stargeezr]

With the way that even 3 states have over a million infected with the corona virus

there may be a lot less people voting in November. I am curious if more republicans

or democrats have been infected by the virus. The FSA, or Fractured States of America

 have to smarten up to get this virus under control, or there may another screwed up

election in November.  I have to wonder just how much more sleezy the Trump

campaign will get. I hope he is Royally voted into retirement.

Geezer

 

 

[sjaak327]

5 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Keeping Americans safe is not going to lose Trump votes. Wanting open borders for nefarious purposes, regardless of the hazards, will lose the democrats votes from legal, hard working, law abiding American families - not that many in that category will be voting democrat.

Hmm, the last thing the people in that category should do is vote for Trump. What a mess he has made, he is by far the worst president in history. 150.000 deaths due to utter mismangement, a shattered economy. And.. he doesn't respresent hard working American families. He is representing his buddies at the stock. market. Keeping Americans safe ?, he did a pis poor job in keeping them safe. That much is absolutely certain. I cannot believe anyone still advocating for such an incompetent idiot. 

Edited July 29, 2020 by sjaak327

[Purdey]

I suppose if Thailand were to ban foreigners we could be in trouble.

[Bluespunk]

16 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump has made his hardline stance on both legal and illegal immigration a central platform of his presidency and his 2020 re-election campaign, but DACA is a complicated issue for him because of increasing public support of the program.

One of a number of areas where trump is losing ground with those who put him in office, many swing voters now regretting their choice

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/29/women-who-voted-trump-who-regret-decision?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Edited July 29, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Redline]

19 hours ago, izod10 said:

good on Trump,will top future dumping too.   Same needs applying to UK too,it does indeed,but no automatic kicking out,just get shut.

 

17 hours ago, izod10 said:

Simple enough?  get shut,not wanted,never will be.  UK miles ahead of future problems,London a massive mess  Now not being racist but Ill wager the ones being rid of are likely to be .....lol

Dude, do everyone a favor, and reply when you are somewhat sober ????????

[Redline]

I think it’s a great decision Trump

 

https://www.google.co.th/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/nearly-74-americans-support-legal-status-daca-dreamers-poll-finds-1511670%3famp=1

 

it was also a great decision to try to send Obamacare to the Supreme Court, in order to end it, when people are losing their insurance do to the virus, and many now enrolling.

 

https://www.google.co.th/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/us/politics/coronavirus-health-insurance-trump.amp.html

 

I applaud your ignorance ????

[TopDeadSenter]

22 hours ago, simple1 said:

trump is generally demonising DACA recipients for the 'sins of thier fathers', which in fact is discrimination.

Although accusing and besmirching living white people(to the point of seeking financial reparation!) for historical deeds dating back many hundreds of years is all well and good? Tell me again about this 'sins of thier fathers' theme you speak of, which can be both cool and PC(when it punishes caucasians) yet discriminatory when it causes hardship to illegal immigrants? 

[simple1]

2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Although accusing and besmirching living white people(to the point of seeking financial reparation!) for historical deeds dating back many hundreds of years is all well and good? Tell me again about this 'sins of thier fathers' theme you speak of, which can be both cool and PC(when it punishes caucasians) yet discriminatory when it causes hardship to illegal immigrants? 

A repeat of your 'white grievance' stuff from the extreme right wing.

[TopDeadSenter]

9 minutes ago, simple1 said:

A repeat of your 'white grievance' stuff from the extreme right wing.

 Are the dreamers showing "latino grievance" for not wanting to be blamed for actions taken by their parents over which they had no control? No double standards pls.

[simple1]

3 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 Are the dreamers showing "latino grievance" for not wanting to be blamed for actions taken by their parents over which they had no control? No double standards pls.

No. you're deflecting. You know the ideology of 'white grievance' is at its core a manifestation of white supremacy / alt right.