7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The outrage here is that it’s even necessary for Facebook to remove the dangerously misleading information being disseminated by the President of the United States.

 

He has at his disposal medical experts who are amongst the best in the world, there is no excuse for the lies and misinformation he spreads.

there are other serious aspects to this as well;

Zuckerberg opting to filter out parts of an official communication from the US president

cr*p communication or not the president is deprived of a slice of freedom of speech

 

by and large I think maybe its more healthy to fight presidents by ballots every 4 years

rather than through shaping mass communication channels to your liking

 

5 minutes ago, wombat said:

i object to being not allowed to make up my own mind

Are you saying that with Facebook not allowing this lie, you can not make up your own mind?

5 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

there are other serious aspects to this as well;

Zuckerberg opting to filter out parts of an official communication from the US president

cr*p communication or not the president is deprived of a slice of freedom of speech

 

by and large I think maybe its more healthy to fight presidents by ballots every 4 years

rather than through shaping mass communication channels to your liking

 

free speach isn't license to kill

23 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

there are other serious aspects to this as well;

Zuckerberg opting to filter out parts of an official communication from the US president

cr*p communication or not the president is deprived of a slice of freedom of speech

 

by and large I think maybe its more healthy to fight presidents by ballots every 4 years

rather than through shaping mass communication channels to your liking

 

Nobody, not even the President, has a right to freedom of speech when communicating via a privately owned media platform.

 

Trump has not been deprived of any freedom of speech.

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nobody, not even the President, has a right to freedom of speech when communicating via a privately owned media platform.

 

Trump has not been deprived of any freedom of speech.

read you loud and clear, don't agree though

 

54 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

there are other serious aspects to this as well;

Zuckerberg opting to filter out parts of an official communication from the US president

cr*p communication or not the president is deprived of a slice of freedom of speech

 

by and large I think maybe its more healthy to fight presidents by ballots every 4 years

rather than through shaping mass communication channels to your liking

 

Hitler and his Nazi party produced movies equating Jews to disease infested rodents.  It prepared the ground for the round-up of Jews for the Holocaust.  I'm sure the people who made the movies were "just doing their job".

 

Sometimes people are put in a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.  It appears Zuckerberg has (reluctantly) decided to be on the right side of history.  Spreading lies that kill people is wrong, even if you are just delivering the message.

 

 

1 hour ago, wombat said:

i object to being not allowed to make up my own mind

So some people make their own mind about covid-19 by reading Trump's Facebook posts or tweets......

Facebook and Twitter are right to censor posts about covid-19, then.

Edited August 6, 20206 yr by candide

57 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

read you loud and clear, don't agree though

 

You cans disagree all you like, the point I made is still factually correct.

2 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

In virtually all countries it is accepted that children are far less vulnerable to covid19 than adults. The post was true. In Thailand next month all schools are expected to be opened. Children are desperately needing to see their friends and continue their education. The radical left and Trump haters are not wanting schools to remain open for their own political benefit. 

So you actualy think that somebody really like how things are now?! So people who think Trump is incapable to haddle hes office, all those  want that people suffer! Have to have strange hallucination's if think like that!

And if you don't know thai schools open in one month ago! But not full open coz social distancing!

 

Edited August 6, 20206 yr by 2 is 1

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And who is the hysterical party in this rant? True, I do despise Trump. Well meaning posts on FB? Do you honestly think he cares about the masses? The children he refers to in the post, and reasonable sacrificial lambs, in his quest for re-election. Except the parents are not willing to make those sacrifices. 

 

The real question for people of your pursuasion is, will your Master be willing to accept defeat, in November? Because it is coming just as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow morning. 

Expert Who Claims Perfect Election Prediction Record Makes His 2020 Pick

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/allan-lichtman-2020-trump-biden-prediction_n_5f2a6c7fc5b68fbfc88993ee?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC_DV0_gVzNRTi-s7At1iuIPiwjy18MNPSF4Pvc2twK1uZrD-_ZQg08gh0-SmDR5Eg-JV8WfaMbIPVuPhbGea0k88xSf-Y5CXkSsBmMaTLCZGAhYdNFIINGHw5Or9RbCyQxU1H8ic_WC8lMWZr521NJPStb7yeV-3ubxwMQRV1Xf

2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

there are other serious aspects to this as well;

Zuckerberg opting to filter out parts of an official communication from the US president

 

So you believe that social media platforms are the correct way for the POTUS to issue official communiques? 

 

No, there are plenty of White House means of doing that!

 

This was not an official communique, it was a personal comment; an ill informed and dangerous one at that. 

 

2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

cr*p communication or not the president is deprived of a slice of freedom of speech

When using social media Trump is, or should be, treated as a private citizen and subject to the same rules as every other user. That means following the rules of that media.

 

I am sure I am not the only TVF member who has had posts  deleted for breaking the forum rules. Are you saying that this should not have happened; that I have been deprived of a slice of my freedom of speech?

 

I agreed to the TVF rules when I joined; if I break those rules I cannot complain if posts are deleted. Trump agreed to Facebook rules when he joined; if he breaks those rules, ditto.

 

2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

by and large I think maybe its more healthy to fight presidents by ballots every 4 years

rather than through shaping mass communication channels to your liking

Tell that to Trump! 

7 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

1000+ deaths a day.... all I am going to say

trumps response is " it is what it is"

10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Inconvenient truths or misinformation? Is Zuckerberg a medical doctor? No. Do children tend to suffer less from corona virus? I think we all realize the answer is yes. Fact is corona virus is more serious for old, obese, diabetics, the chronically ill. I see nothing inflammatory in Trump trying to stop the fear mongering. Children must be terrified, and keeping them away from their education, early socializing and character building will lead to another lost generation. Get the kids back to school Trump. 

Are you a doctor?

9 hours ago, jojothai said:

About time they showed some effort to censor his posts.

I am not sure it can be classed as misinformation, but it could be harmful.

The worst part of this IMHO is that it may lower the attitude to compliance with the directives to stop the spread of the disease.

It fails to recognize the risk to others that children can still transmit the virus.

Plus, it's been obvious for a couple years and nowadays even more so that what trump says is focused totally on his ego and winning elections regardless of truth. 

Whatever it takes to get re-elected, hopefully not a war with China. We’re all doomed if the goons allow him to be King Almighty. Not much faith in Bide neither, but safer . He’ll go for United , not Divided.

I have no great love for Trump but what he has said here is true.  Beyond  a very low infection rate the death rate is vanishingly small amongst kids.  This is the problem with having social media outlets censor themselves. They don’t have the facts and they do have a political agenda.

1 minute ago, chilli42 said:

I have no great love for Trump but what he has said here is true.  Beyond  a very low infection rate the death rate is vanishingly small amongst kids.  This is the problem with having social media outlets censor themselves. They don’t have the facts and they do have a political agenda.

Yes, they sure do have a political agenda, and not just Facebook.

10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Inconvenient truths or misinformation? Is Zuckerberg a medical doctor? No. Do children tend to suffer less from corona virus? I think we all realize the answer is yes. Fact is corona virus is more serious for old, obese, diabetics, the chronically ill. I see nothing inflammatory in Trump trying to stop the fear mongering. Children must be terrified, and keeping them away from their education, early socializing and character building will lead to another lost generation. Get the kids back to school Trump. 

Facebook are not even accountable for their fact checkers they pay 2 ex DNC workers and a Soros funded worker to perform the fact checking, getting the idea here ?

Chaos must be maintained up until US Elections at all costs

Trump against deep state

2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

read you loud and clear, don't agree though

 

Ah so you are saying freedom of speah is protected when you yell out FIRE in the movie theater as well? 

11 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

I have no great love for Trump but what he has said here is true.  Beyond  a very low infection rate the death rate is vanishingly small amongst kids.  This is the problem with having social media outlets censor themselves. They don’t have the facts and they do have a political agenda.

so then explain to your wife how she can get ALMOST pregnant.

Edited August 6, 20206 yr by Opl

Hall of shame stuff. President of a developed country and the land of the free had his post removed over false claim. That stench distinction must certainly go down as the only head of states of any developed country to have their post removed over violation by Facebook & Twitter or any other social media platform. Fans of Trump would wish the ground below open up and swallow them. Maybe not. 

11 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

I have no great love for Trump but what he has said here is true.  Beyond  a very low infection rate the death rate is vanishingly small amongst kids.  This is the problem with having social media outlets censor themselves. They don’t have the facts and they do have a political agenda.

 

9 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Yes, they sure do have a political agenda, and not just Facebook.

Try to grasp reality:  Children do get infected.  Children do pass on the infection.  Thankfully children rarely get seriously sick or die of Covid 19, but that does not mean they are almost immune.  Spreading the lie that children are almost immune is dangerous.

49 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Expert Who Claims Perfect Election Prediction Record Makes His 2020 Pick

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I rest my case, your honor. 

2 hours ago, Opl said:

free speach isn't license to kill

 

I surely agree with that,

 

my main point is that its more sound to fight presidents by means of ballot papers

rather than tuning mass communication means to Zuckerberg's liking

 

 

58 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Expert Who Claims Perfect Election Prediction Record Makes His 2020 Pick

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From the article:

"In 2000, he predicted Al Gore would defeat George W. Bush. Lichtman claims that his prediction holds since Gore won the popular vote"

 

 ????????????????????

Edited August 6, 20206 yr by Kelsall

35 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

I have no great love for Trump but what he has said here is true.  Beyond  a very low infection rate the death rate is vanishingly small amongst kids.  This is the problem with having social media outlets censor themselves. They don’t have the facts and they do have a political agenda.

 Read Sheryl's #93 post above and educate yourself, because apparently, you're woefully lacking...

 

Quote

 

"Tend to suffer less" i.e. are less likely to die from the disease (though some children have died) is not at all the same as "immune".

 

Immune = cannot be infected period (and thus also cannot spread the infection to others).

 

Absolutely untrue that children are "immune". 

 

The main reason for concern about children's exposure to the virus is that even though most children (not all) will have asymptomatic infection, they can spread the virus to others in their family and community.

 

 

And lately from Trump's own CDC, courtesy of Fox News:

 

Very low infection rate for children???

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Hundreds infected with coronavirus at Georgia camp, raising fears about risk for children

 

The CDC report found that attendees had engaged in a myriad of indoor and outdoor activities, including "daily vigorous singing and cheering"

 

Out of 344 campers and staff tested for the virus, 260 came back positive in the weeks following its closure, including 168 children.

...

"These findings demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 spread efficiently in a youth-centric overnight setting, resulting in high attack rates among persons in all age groups, despite efforts by camp officials to implement most recommended strategies to prevent transmission," the CDC report on Friday said.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/health/georgia-camp-sees-260-children-staff-test-positive-coronavirus-cdc-says

Edited August 6, 20206 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

30 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

I have no great love for Trump but what he has said here is true.  Beyond  a very low infection rate the death rate is vanishingly small amongst kids.  This is the problem with having social media outlets censor themselves. They don’t have the facts and they do have a political agenda.

No, it was not true. Children are not almost immune, they can and do get infected, they can and do get sick, they can and do infect other people.

14 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

I surely agree with that,

 

my main point is that its more sound to fight presidents by means of ballot papers

rather than tuning mass communication means to Zuckerberg's liking

 

The unfortunate part is, too many people, including Americans, rely on social media like Facebook and Twitter for their NEWS.... That's never what those platforms were designed to be for primarily. But that's what they've become in the modern era...

 

And while serving good purpose sometimes, they also have become platforms for the wide dissemination under the guide of "news" of blatant lies, propaganda, foreign meddling, hate and discrimination. They have an obligation to society to at least try to clean up their act.

 

14 minutes ago, stevenl said:

No, it was not true. Children are not almost immune, they can and do get infected, they can and do get sick, they can and do infect other people.

Define “almost” as a percentage. Then ask the next person and then the next. So you could be wrong or almost right. For some reason on this thread topic your “almost “ as a percentage I’d bet is 99% or something and another persons ( perhaps Trump) is a lower percentage.  

Edited August 6, 20206 yr by alex8912

12 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

Define “almost” as a percentage. Then ask the next person and then the next. So you could be wrong or almost right. For some reason on this thread topic your “almost “ as a percentage I’d bet is 99% or something and another persons is a lower percentage.  

 The dictionary definition of 'almost' is nearly but not quite.

 

So 99% is certainly closer than any lower percentage that you care to produce.

 

Were you to live in New York and travel to Bangkok, would you say you were almost there as you left your house?