rooster59 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 French government condemns vandalism at site of Nazi massacre FILE PHOTO: French President Emmanuel Macron attends a visit of the ruins in the French martyr village of Oradour-sur-Glane, France June 10, 2017. REUTERS/Stephane Mahe/File Photo PARIS (Reuters) - French government officials on Saturday said they would work to track down those responsible for defacing a memorial to the victims of a Nazi massacre during World War Two, which was painted over with graffiti calling the killings a lie. The site, at the village of Oradour-sur-Glane near the western city of Limoges, commemorates the hundreds of men, women and children who were killed in June 1944 by an SS division. The word "martyr" on the memorial was crossed out, with "menteur" or "liar" daubed next to it. "Nothing can erase the memory of our 642 martyrs of Oradour-sur-Glane," French President Emmanuel Macron said on Twitter. Prime Minister Jean Castex said in a statement that everything would be done to bring those behind the "disgraceful acts" to justice. (Reporting by Sarah White and Elizabeth Pineau; Editing by David Holmes) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-08-23 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) Sad! All the heinous tragedies that those Germans and their allies inflicted on all countries innocent people, through out the years of their conquest, to rule the world. It seems very strange to me, while having been documented through the years and yet can somehow, still be denied, that it ever happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre Edited August 23, 2020 by riclag 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Opl Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, riclag said: Sad! All the heinous tragedies that those Germans and their allies inflicted on all countries innocent people, through out the years of their conquest, to rule the world. It seems very strange to me, while having been documented through the years and yet can somehow, still be denied, that it ever happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre "Holocaust denial is an especially pernicious form of antisemitism. Claims that the Holocaust did not happen imply that the idea of the Holocaust is a myth created by Jews for their own ends. Holocaust denial is therefore not the expression in good faith of a legitimate interpretation of history; it is designed to engender hostility against Jews, and is insulting and offensive to Jews, other victims of the Holocaust and all who value truth and the lessons we can learn from history." Introduction part of this document related to the UK but valid for France too and for the same reasons in France, Holocaust-denial is a criminal offense https://www.bjpa.org/content/upload/bjpa/comb/Combating Holocaust Denial Through Law in the United Kingdom.pdf Edited August 23, 2020 by Opl 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 One would think that this defacing was done by Germans. I would also think that this was done by much younger Germans who you would think would regret what their fathers and grandfathers did in WW2. But then after WW1 and 20 years on it all started up again, I wonder if younger Germans have pics. of Mr Hitler on their walls. My grandfather was German but he never mentioned either war. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cats4ever Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 Anti social media has a lot to answer for. Before online, idiots were usually isolated and ignored by people in their residential areas. Now they can find enough other idiots online, to reinforce to themselves that they were right all along. this is an increasing danger to civil society. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, toofarnorth said: One would think that this defacing was done by Germans. I would also think that this was done by much younger Germans who you would think would regret what their fathers and grandfathers did in WW2. But then after WW1 and 20 years on it all started up again, I wonder if younger Germans have pics. of Mr Hitler on their walls. My grandfather was German but he never mentioned either war. France has a history of anti Semiticism, still members of the old far right / neo Nazis in France. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wwest5829 Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 5 hours ago, toofarnorth said: One would think that this defacing was done by Germans. I would also think that this was done by much younger Germans who you would think would regret what their fathers and grandfathers did in WW2. But then after WW1 and 20 years on it all started up again, I wonder if younger Germans have pics. of Mr Hitler on their walls. My grandfather was German but he never mentioned either war. Hmmm, having seen the neo-Nazi right wing growth in the US, I would not assume it was young Germans without further evidence. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 6 hours ago, riclag said: Sad! All the heinous tragedies that those Germans and their allies inflicted on all countries innocent people, through out the years of their conquest, to rule the world. It seems very strange to me, while having been documented through the years and yet can somehow, still be denied, that it ever happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre It's a very strange thing in France but it works like a clockwork. Every time there is a need to distract attention from something or unite the people for some other reason ?.. There are vandalism's at Jewish graveyards or synagogues or some site which will most certainly shock and scandalize everybody !!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/80-graves-vandalized-at-jewish-cemetery-in-france/ https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/283653 https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4943397,00.html https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/244604 https://sputniknews.com/europe/201812151070708814-jewish-cemetery-strasbourg-vandalized-before-attack/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post baansgr Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, off road pat said: It's a very strange thing in France but it works like a clockwork. Every time there is a need to distract attention from something or unite the people for some other reason ?.. There are vandalism's at Jewish graveyards or synagogues or some site which will most certainly shock and scandalize everybody !!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/80-graves-vandalized-at-jewish-cemetery-in-france/ https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/283653 https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4943397,00.html https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/244604 https://sputniknews.com/europe/201812151070708814-jewish-cemetery-strasbourg-vandalized-before-attack/ Possibly because France has so many memorials, war graves etc being the epicentre of 2 world wars...doubt it's done to distract the population from current politics 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 10 hours ago, toofarnorth said: One would think that this defacing was done by Germans. I would also think that this was done by much younger Germans who you would think would regret what their fathers and grandfathers did in WW2. But then after WW1 and 20 years on it all started up again, I wonder if younger Germans have pics. of Mr Hitler on their walls. My grandfather was German but he never mentioned either war. 8 hours ago, simple1 said: France has a history of anti Semiticism, still members of the old far right / neo Nazis in France. 4 hours ago, wwest5829 said: Hmmm, having seen the neo-Nazi right wing growth in the US, I would not assume it was young Germans without further evidence. Not just Germany, France and US. All countries have neo Nazis and Holocaust deniers. But given location french anti semitists seems most likely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted August 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2020 4 hours ago, off road pat said: It's a very strange thing in France but it works like a clockwork. Every time there is a need to distract attention from something or unite the people for some other reason ?.. There are vandalism's at Jewish graveyards or synagogues or some site which will most certainly shock and scandalize everybody !!! https://www.timesofisrael.com/80-graves-vandalized-at-jewish-cemetery-in-france/ https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/283653 https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4943397,00.html https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/244604 https://sputniknews.com/europe/201812151070708814-jewish-cemetery-strasbourg-vandalized-before-attack/ Not that you bothered explaining what attention was distracted from where (never mind "every time"), but then again why ruin a perfectly "reasonable" conspiracy theory with facts, eh? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Massacre of Oradour was on French local population. Nothing anti Semitic in this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted August 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Thorgal said: Massacre of Oradour was on French local population. Nothing anti Semitic in this topic. Correct; by SS Division units who were on their way to try and defeat the Normandy attack. However, it is assumed members of the 'traditional' far right / neo Nazis were responsible for defacing the monument, in effect denying Nazi crimes against humanity. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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