Trump administration moves to advance coronavirus treatment, possible vaccine - reports

[rcummings]

5 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Because I'm not a Trump hater and don't share your bias towards him.  I look at things objectively.  That causes me to see things differently and without a pre-choosen slant.  So I have no ire towards Trump on this issue.

 

I'm glad that you admit to the utter nastiness that's displayed here towards Trump.  Those of us not in the Trump hating club have been pointing it out for a long time.

So, you're saying that Trump doesn't post and say nasty hateful things? And you think that's evidence of your lack of bias? Do you understand what bias means?

There's lots of nastiness coming from both sides. Haven't seen you pointing it out from those on yours.

I don't concern myself about the nastiness of either side. Just the falsehoods, doublethink, weird denialism, and belief in ludicrous conspiracy theories.. And overwhelmingly that's coming from the right.

Edited August 24, 2020 by rcummings

[johnnybangkok]

5 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Because I'm not a Trump hater and don't share your bias towards him.  I look at things objectively.  That causes me to see things differently and without a pre-choosen slant.  So I have no ire towards Trump on this issue.

 

I'm glad that you admit to the utter nastiness that's displayed here towards Trump.  Those of us not in the Trump hating club have been pointing it out for a long time.

Objectively???

Objectively in favour of Trump, EVERY single time.

[Tippaporn]

11 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

There's only one confused person here Tippaporn and it's not me.

Perhaps in future you can keep the threads seperate on not 'cross-quote'. It'll make life a lot easier.

And I'll apologise when i need to. Which isn't in this instance.  

You're the guy who made a false assumption and now you blame me for it and suggest my future posts should account for you mistakenly assuming something?  LOL  I wish I could credit you with being a stand up guy as you credited me when I admitted to making a wrong assumption and apologized.  Ah well.

 

This dead horse has been beaten to the point I can't even tell what kind of animal it was any longer.  No more replies on this from me.

[Tippaporn]

14 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Objectively???

Objectively in favour of Trump, EVERY single time.

Yes, objectively.  That is the correct term.  The truth leans in Trump's favour more often than not.  As I've said, I certainly don't agree with Trump on all things but I will not raise any of my objections here because all I would be doing would be feeding the trolls.  Kinda like going to the zoo where signs inform the visitors not to feed the animals.  There's a good reason not to do so in both instances (I'm not inferring that you people are animals . . . it's just an analogy).

[rcummings]

30 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Because I'm not a Trump hater and don't share your bias towards him.  I look at things objectively.  That causes me to see things differently and without a pre-choosen slant.  So I have no ire towards Trump on this issue.

 

I'm glad that you admit to the utter nastiness that's displayed here towards Trump.  Those of us not in the Trump hating club have been pointing it out for a long time.

Now that I think about it, you may have a point. I was not the best-behaved child out there. But when people came to complain about my alleged misdeeds, and that happened frequently, my Mom would say, "Not my child. He would never do anything like that. He's a good boy." Anyway, thanks Mom for always being so unbiased.

[Tippaporn]

48 minutes ago, rcummings said:

So, you're saying that Trump doesn't post and say nasty hateful things? And you think that's evidence of your lack of bias? Do you understand what bias means?

There's lots of nastiness coming from both sides. Haven't seen you pointing it out from those on yours.

I don't concern myself about the nastiness of either side. Just the falsehoods, doublethink, weird denialism, and belief in ludicrous conspiracy theories.. And overwhelmingly that's coming from the right.

I will admit that I am in disagreement over how he handles his criticisms.  I am in agreement that many of his responses to criticisms are justified and spot on.  The MSM, for instance, is fake news and a threat to the country as they create and promote false information to purposely mislead the people for their own ends.  I, though, would take a different tact in exposing them for what they are.

 

It's my opinion that the nastiness, from either side, is destructive.  It's a wedge that will keep Americans divided for as long as it's used.  It might come as a surprise to you but I believe there are people who desire and work towards keeping Americans divided against each other.  A shame that more people don't recognize that fact.

 

I'm a liberal and you're a conservative.  I'm a Republican and you're a Democrat.  We are at odds with each other and must eternally fight each other for we are sworn enemies.  You know, that kind of bullsh!t that people have fallen for.  Give it up and understand that both parties are two heads of the same snake.  Neither is truly fighting for the people.  No doubt some genuinely are but in the grander scheme we aren't in the club and never will be, as the insightful George Carlin famously quipped.

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by Tippaporn

[Tippaporn]

13 minutes ago, rcummings said:

Now that I think about it, you may have a point. I was not the best-behaved child out there. But when people came to complain about my alleged misdeeds, and that happened frequently, my Mom would say, "Not my child. He would never do anything like that. He's a good boy." Anyway, thanks Mom for always being so unbiased.

We're all good boys and girls at base.  We don't understand what ideas are and how we use them.  That's all.

[rcummings]

18 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

I will admit that I am in disagreement over how he handles his criticisms.  I am in agreement that many of his responses to criticisms are justified and spot on.  The MSM, for instance, is fake news and a threat to the country as they create and promote false information to purposely mislead the people for their own ends.  I, though, would take a different tact in exposing them for what they are.

 

It's my opinion that the nastiness, from either side, is destructive.  It's a wedge that will keep Americans divided for as long as it's used.  It might come as a surprise to you but I believe there are people who desire and work towards keeping Americans divided against each other.  A shame that more people don't recognize that fact.

 

I'm a liberal and you're a conservative.  I'm a Republican and you're a Democrat.  We are at odds with each other and must eternally fight each other for we are sworn enemies.  You know, that kind of bullsh!t that people have fallen for.  Give it up and understand that both parties are two heads of the same snake.  Neither is truly fighting for the people.  No doubt some genuinely are but in the grander scheme we aren't in the club and never will be, as the insightful George Carlin famously quipped.

 

20 million people who previously had no health insurance got coverage thanks to Obamacare before the covid virus hit. Millions more who lost their jobs have gotten it since thanks to obamacare. Trump is trying to destroy obamacare and has offered nothing with which to replace it. Tell those people who are now protected that it makes no difference who's running the government.

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, rcummings said:

20 million people who previously had no health insurance got coverage thanks to Obamacare before the covid virus hit.

Source? 

[Mama Noodle]

Trump could cure cancer and the usual suspects would break their backs trying to squirm around it. 

[Tippaporn]

12 minutes ago, rcummings said:

20 million people who previously had no health insurance got coverage thanks to Obamacare before the covid virus hit. Millions more who lost their jobs have gotten it since thanks to obamacare. Trump is trying to destroy obamacare and has offered nothing with which to replace it. Tell those people who are now protected that it makes no difference who's running the government.

Bias and more bias.  My post went over your head.

[Tippaporn]

6 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Trump could cure cancer and the usual suspects would break their backs trying to squirm around it. 

No truer words have ever been spoken.

[rcummings]

3 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Source? 

What amazing to me is that you don't know this. It's very old news. Clearly you inhabit an almost hermetically sealed news bubble. Does the phrase "pre-existing conditions" mean anything to you?

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/chart-book-accomplishments-of-affordable-care-act#:~:text=Thanks to the Affordable Care,people have gained health coverage.&text=The ACA put in place,with pre-existing health conditions.

https://fortune.com/2018/11/15/obamacare-americans-with-health-insurance-uninsured/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-obama/obama-20-million-americans-insured-thanks-to-obamacare-idUSKCN0W52KF

Next you'll be expressing doubt that voters in 5 red states authorized by referendums the expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare.

[rcummings]

2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Bias and more bias.  My post went over your head.

I offer hard evidence. You offer a characterization. This is your idea of a rebuttal?

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

No truer words have ever been spoken.

 

Its funny because the usual suspects have no idea thats how they look. They carry on in every thread beating the same drum and nothing ever changes. 

[Phoenix Rising]

10 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Trump could cure cancer and the usual suspects would break their backs trying to squirm around it. 

trump could rape a child on 5th Ave and the usual suspects would defend him.

[rcummings]

3 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

No truer words have ever been spoken.

Especially because it's based on a premise that isn't actually a fact. 

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Its funny because the usual suspects have no idea thats how they look. They carry on in every thread beating the same drum and nothing ever changes. 

But not you - you're different!

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, rcummings said:

What amazing to me is that you don't know this. It's very old news. Clearly you inhabit an almost hermetically sealed news bubble. Does the phrase "pre-existing conditions" mean anything to you?

 

This is what you said:

 

18 minutes ago, rcummings said:

20 million people who previously had no health insurance got coverage thanks to Obamacare before the covid virus hit.

 

And thats specifically the source im looking for. No other meltdowns required. 

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

But not you - you're different!

 

I am different, I dont post every day, dont post in every thread, and my life does not revolve around Thaivisa or Trump. 

 

You guys on the other hand must sleep thinking about the guy. 

[Tippaporn]

5 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Its funny because the usual suspects have no idea thats how they look. They carry on in every thread beating the same drum and nothing ever changes. 

 

4 minutes ago, rcummings said:

Especially because it's based on a premise that isn't actually a fact. 

Mama Noodle called it correctly.  rcummings, you just provided the proof.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Its funny because the usual suspects have no idea thats how they look. They carry on in every thread beating the same drum and nothing ever changes. 

Without a shred of introspection.

[Mama Noodle]

8 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

trump could rape a child on 5th Ave and the usual suspects would defend him.

Sounds like Bill Clinton

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Without a shred of introspection.

One of the worst, most continually wrong offenders shows himself, without a shred of introspection. 

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Its funny because the usual suspects have no idea thats how they look. They carry on in every thread beating the same drum and nothing ever changes. 

From my vintage point, I see a fast sinking ship and rats bailing out or soon being locked up. Kellyanne is the latest smart rat to bail from the sinking ship. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump can attempt all the credit grabbing he likes, but pharmaceutical  companies are not going to release drugs for use until they have at the very least completed their safety testing - Safety testing and efficacy testing are two different things. 

 

Meanwhile Trump's previous attempts at credit grabbing, and perhaps stock manipulation, have left the US holding over 60million doses of Hydroxychloroquine (not including all the stuff his followers rushed out to buy).

 

Perhaps he could try something else, taking the advice of health experts and getting out of the way of people who know what they are doing. 

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

From my vintage point, I see a fast sinking ship and rats bailing out or soon being locked up. Kellyanne is the latest smart rat to bail from the sinking ship. 

 
And you’d think that because you have a toxic mind, but in reality both Kellyanne and her husband George (of project Lincoln fame) are both walking away from their posts due to what I can only assume are their daughters very public Twitter meltdowns. 

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 
And you’d think that because you have a toxic mind, but in reality both Kellyanne and her husband George (of project Lincoln fame) are both walking away from their posts due to what I can only assume are their daughters very public Twitter meltdowns. 

Try using the left side of your brain. She could have resignEd after the RNC and give Trump some face. No she resigned on the eve and bitch-slap Trump. 

[rcummings]

10 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 
And you’d think that because you have a toxic mind, but in reality both Kellyanne and her husband George (of project Lincoln fame) are both walking away from their posts due to what I can only assume are their daughters very public Twitter meltdowns. 

For a moment I doubted your version of the situation but when you wrote "I can only assume..." that changed everything.

[simple1]

30 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

And thats specifically the source im looking for. No other meltdowns required. 

About 20 million Americans have gained health insurance coverage since the ACA was enacted. 

 

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2020/03/23/482012/10-ways-aca-improved-health-care-past-decade/