Black man shot in back by police in Wisconsin city, governor says, curfew imposed

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

Says a guy who replies to his "facetious trolling" regularly!????

 

Aaaaaaand the discussion is headed for the gutter by the usual suspects. 

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

So your opinion is that he was a "white supremacist" because he liked cops and went to a trump rally. 

No, it's not. Don't tell me what my opinion is unless you want me to reciprocate.

[The Barmbeker]

40 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

If you've got a knife, and you tell a bunch of cops who are reporting to a domestic call that you have a knife while those very same cops are trying to arrest you for an outstanding warrant that consists of sexual assault with domestic abuse modifiers, and you refuse to obey, resist arrest, get tased, and bee-line for your car....

 

Yeah you should be careful. 

 

Dunno what any of that has to do with race or racism, but situation normal on here. 

Yeah yeah blah blah...

They did NOT KNOW, that he had a knife!

They just shot him (7 times, in the back, from close range) because they assumed he MIGHT have had a gun...a knife...something... in his car!

 

Now go back and have a look at the video of the militia- dude, who is calmly walking past THREE POLICE CARS, with A GUN, while people are shouting, that he just killed someone!

Do you notice anything?

Case a) a black man who MIGHT have reached for a gun gets shot

case b) a white man who actually HAS a gun, gets into his car and drives off, to be arrested the next day!

 

No...I guess, YOU don't notice anything!

 

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

No, it's not. Don't tell me what my opinion is unless you want me to reciprocate.

 

I dont really care what you do, but unless im mistaken is this not your post? 

 

 

 

[The Barmbeker]

28 minutes ago, bodga said:

How about people stop thinking they can do what they want destroying the whole area and thats ALL people.

Missing the point, but you are doing that for some time now, so...please continue!

[riclag]

42 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

We do know that he admitted to having a knife, police knew he had a knife, police knew he had a warrant, they knew his history, he resisted arrest, he was tased, got away and went for his car and very clearly was reaching in the floorboard of the car in the very place where a knife was recovered. 

 

He was armed, he resisted, and it ended in him losing his life because of it. 

If you resit arrest and get away after being tased , it might very well turn out like this. The man went inside his car after he got free and fired out shots,hitting the two officers.

 

[Logosone]

It's a sorry state of affairs in the USA where leftist mayors have left their cities spiral into lawlessness to such an extent that private citizens now are desperately trying to organize themselves to do what those leftist mayors can't, to protect life and property.

 

It looks like a civil war is inching closer and closer in the US. And that is exactly what the extreme left want. A destruction of the current order.

 

 

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

They did NOT KNOW, that he had a knife!

 

Maybe you and me read and understand words differently? 

 

"Blake admitted he had a knife in his possession" 

 

"DCI Agents recovered a knife from the drivers side floorboard of Mr Blakes vehicle" 

 

 

 

 

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

I dont really care what you do, but unless im mistaken is this not your post? 

 

 

 

That is correct. Are you saying there are no white supremacists among the trump supporters?

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, Logosone said:

It looks like a civil war is inching closer and closer in the US. And that is exactly what the extreme left want. A destruction of the current order.

And the extreme right doesn't?

[simple1]

12 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Should he have allowed himself to have molotov cocktails thrown at him, be beaten with a skateboard, and shot with a pistol? 

The guy shouldn't have been there in the first place - an untrained wannabe - just to remind he has been charged with murder.

[Logosone]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

And the extreme right doesn't?

The now common use of violence in the political discourse was introduced by the left.

 

It started with the George Floyd mass destructions. And it just got worse and worse.

 

It was not the extreme right, it was the extreme left that started to use violence in the political discourse in the US.

 

The left introduced it, and the left keeps using it. Whatever happens now, it was the extreme left that unleashed this genie of violence, mayhem and destruction. Then they have the nerve to blame Trump for it, the one man trying to stop it.

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, simple1 said:

The guy shouldn't have been there in the first place - an untrained wannabe - just to remind he has been charged with murder.

 

Does that mean he deserves to have molotov cocktails thrown at him, be beaten with a skateboard, and shot with a pistol? 

 

Charged means nothing. He will definitely get some crimes, but murder is not one of them.

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, Logosone said:

The now common use of violence in the political discourse was introduced by the left.

 

It started with the George Floyd mass destructions. And it just got worse and worse.

 

It was not the extreme right, it was the extreme left that started to use violence in the political discourse in the US.

 

The left introduced it, and the left keeps using it. Whatever happens now, it was the extreme left that unleashed this genie of violence, mayhem and destruction. Then they have the nerve to blame Trump for it, the one man trying to stop it.

 

It started earlier than that, Antifa really took off when trump was elected and were coddled and ignored by the left the whole time. 

[Sujo]

20 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

He was armed. He literally told the cops he had a knife. 

Yet the white guy armed with a long gun shoots people and walks down the road with a gun and police just drive on by. They had to be begged to arrest him.

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Maybe you and me read and understand words differently? 

 

"Blake admitted he had a knife in his possession" 

 

"DCI Agents recovered a knife from the drivers side floorboard of Mr Blakes vehicle" 

 

 

 

 

Nowhere does it say the officers knew he had a knife. And even if so, does that justify the shooting and the back, and does that justify the clearly discriminatory treatment of the white gunman, walking to police with a gun in his hand?

 

And again, source please for your claim they knew who he was and that there were outstanding warrants.

Edited August 27, 2020 by stevenl

[Eric Loh]

11 minutes ago, Logosone said:

It's a sorry state of affairs in the USA where leftist mayors have left their cities spiral into lawlessness to such an extent that private citizens now are desperately trying to organize themselves to do what those leftist mayors can't, to protect life and property.

 

It looks like a civil war is inching closer and closer in the US. And that is exactly what the extreme left want. A destruction of the current order.

 

 

The nation need a unifier like Biden. 

[Sujo]

21 minutes ago, Logosone said:

He is to blame for a police officer making a mistake? You expect Trump to police all police officers personally? I don't think so.

 

Trump wants to fix it. Again and again he tried to get extra police forces or federal troops into the affected cities. Again and again the mayors and attorney generals refused to allow Trump to do anything as the leftist press raised bogus constitutional obfuscations and screamed "dictator" whilst the left's blackshirts burned down businesses, cars and even federal buildings.

 

Trump did not create  this mayhem. Leftists agitators who exploit mistakes by police created this, with their ANTIFA stooges on the ground.

 

And only Trump has tried to send troops to fix this, but of course again and again the Democrats stabbed him in the back.

 

Everyone knows who is to blame for violence having infiltrated the political discourse to this degree, the extreme left and nobody else. They are the ones who are whipping the gullible up into a frenzy to create mayhem, purely for their political agenda.

Nice to see you agree that trump is lying when he says he will fix it.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, stevenl said:

Nowhere does it say the officers knew he had a knife.

 

And again, source please for your claim they knew who he was and that there were outstanding warrants.

 

Nor is there any indication, thus far, that he had the knife in his possession at the time he was shot in the back. The police found the knife in the vehicle after the fact.

 

[Sujo]

14 minutes ago, Logosone said:

It's a sorry state of affairs in the USA where leftist mayors have left their cities spiral into lawlessness to such an extent that private citizens now are desperately trying to organize themselves to do what those leftist mayors can't, to protect life and property.

 

It looks like a civil war is inching closer and closer in the US. And that is exactly what the extreme left want. A destruction of the current order.

 

 

And trump lets it happen.

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Nowhere does it say the officers knew he had a knife.

Right, he just admitted to having a knife after being shot 7 times ????

 

And cops yelling at him to "Drop the knife" before shooting him ????

 

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

And again, source please for your claim they knew who he was and that there were outstanding warrants.

 

Read the thread, I posted this WAY back. 

 

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According to the audio obtained by Madison365, someone called police to report that Blake was at her home and wasn’t supposed to be, and that he had taken her keys and was refusing to give them back. A dispatcher relayed this message to patrol officers at about 5:11 pm Sunday. 

 

About 30 seconds later, she let patrol officers know that there was “an alert at this address for a 99 for this subject,” apparently to indicate that a warrant had been issued for Blake’s arrest. Court records indicate a warrant was issued on three charges — two misdemeanors and one G-class felony — on July 7. Court records indicate no previous criminal charges in the state of Wisconsin.

 

About a minute after the initial call, the dispatcher indicated that Blake was leaving the premises, and that the woman who had initially called had hung up.

 

Listen to the police scanner audio:

https://madison365.com/kenohsa-police-opened-fire-less-than-5-minutes-after-being-called-scanner-audio/

[simple1]

3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

And the extreme right doesn't?

At least three of the most powerful men in the US either support or are born again evangelicals - one recently referencing 'the rapture' - people wonder why the US has issues????

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Sujo said:

Yet the white guy armed with a long gun shoots people and walks down the road with a gun and police just drive on by. They had to be begged to arrest him.

 

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Immediately after the shooting, video showed a gunman appearing to attempt to surrender — his hands up — but police failing to take him into custody. Officials declined to provide an explanation on Wednesday.

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The shooting began at the gas station around 11:45 p.m. Tuesday, police said. After the first shots, a young White man carrying a rifle began running north on Sheridan Road, away from a crowd of protesters.

A Washington Post journalist who observed the scene saw the man with the rifle run by with several protesters in pursuit. He rolled into a sitting position, raised his gun and opened fire at his pursuers.

Two people fell to the ground, one shot in the arm and the other in the chest.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/

 

[Sujo]

Trumps america. Maga

[Logosone]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The nation need a unifier like Biden. 

Many who have served in Iraq disagree with that.

 

'Their blood is on your hands': Veterans confront Joe Biden over support for Iraq war

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html

 

Biden is a war-monger, he voted for war time and time again, in Syria, in Iraq.

 

Biden was one of the 77 Senators who enabled Bush to wage war in Iraq.

 

He kept talking about weapons of mass-destruction. In short Biden is a total fool.

 

What the US needs is not a fool, but someone who restores law and order with proportional force. Someone who can make the leftist extremists who unleashed this violence understand that violence will be punished. Unfortunately the Democrat mayors are not allowing that to happen.

 

If Trump wins again, however, this will make it much harder for the Demoract mayors to obstruct Trump's efforts to restore order.

 

 

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Trumps america. Maga

You are blaming Trump for the riots, rather than the actual people rioting ?

[jcsmith]

On 8/25/2020 at 7:42 AM, Mama Noodle said:

 

We dont know if he was unarmed. He was resisting arrest and going to the drivers seat of his car like he was on a mission though. 

His kids were in the car. And while it has been reported that he did have a knife in the car, it was sitting in the passenger side panel and he doesn't appear to go for the knife. It's hard to tell what was being said though as the police were not wearing body cams. 

Edited August 27, 2020 by jcsmith

[CorpusChristie]

9 minutes ago, Sujo said:

And trump lets it happen.

What do you think that Trump should do to quell the unrest ?

[simple1]

20 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Does that mean he deserves to have molotov cocktails thrown at him, be beaten with a skateboard, and shot with a pistol? 

 

Charged means nothing. He will definitely get some crimes, but murder is not one of them.

 

 

Why do think police refused to authorise them. A civilian carrying a high-powered weapon in those circumstances no wonder some people reacted - the guy was an idiot. Glad to see you already know the outcome of judicial proceedings - outstanding!

 

Now, really, enough is enough - bye

Edited August 27, 2020 by simple1

[Phoenix Rising]

20 minutes ago, Logosone said:

The now common use of violence in the political discourse was introduced by the left.

 

It started with the George Floyd mass destructions. And it just got worse and worse.

 

It was not the extreme right, it was the extreme left that started to use violence in the political discourse in the US.

 

The left introduced it, and the left keeps using it. Whatever happens now, it was the extreme left that unleashed this genie of violence, mayhem and destruction. Then they have the nerve to blame Trump for it, the one man trying to stop it.

So, you don't want to answer the question. Why don't you just come out and say it instead of posting this string of deflections?