Black man shot in back by police in Wisconsin city, governor says, curfew imposed

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

And if he was reaching in the car for a weapon? That survivable leg shot just put everyone in danger. 

 

Come on you guys are capable of at least a smidgeon of intellectual honesty here. 

I'm glad that, despite your earlier claims of 'the police couldn't help it' you're finally saying 'it's complicated', so you're on the right track.

[mtls2005]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

I dont see any color in this situation.

 

 

Put the shovel down.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

See, I dont see any color in this situation. You, and everyone else, seem to want this to be about his skin color, and not his actions, that contributed to his death. Its the same old, boring, stale argument everyone makes.  

Yes, same old argument racists make.

[2 is 1]

In hole situation police act wrong! Kids in car, they should secure kids first! Why not around the car and block access to car! If he was threat why not stop him before! 

[Mama Noodle]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I'm glad that, despite your earlier claims of 'the police couldn't help it' you're finally saying 'it's complicated', so you're on the right track.

Don’t put words in my mouth, I was merely playing along with your little thought experiment. 
 

Care to answer it, or you just wanna call people racists and make little swipes from the shallow end. 

[Susco]

25 minutes ago, kamahele said:

I think in most countries, he would have ended up in custody without being shot.

 

I think in most countries there are also not 120 guns per 100 inhabitants.

 

For all those condemning the police, why you don't get out of your lazy armchair, and go play policeman yourself in the US?

 

I have no opinion about who is right or wrong in this particular case, but I do understand what the police in the US has to deal with.

 

That country has just gone crazy, and policemen are risking their live whenever they arrest someone. Not comparable with the situation elsewhere in the world.

 

I know for myself, I wouldn't want to be a policeman in the US if they paid me a million $ a month.

[Emdog]

14 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Most people in the US agree that there is a need for wholesale police reform.

 

The irony of the news reporting is that police mistreating blacks is a fraction of the black on black crime which largely goes unreported. 

 

Why aren't the blacks policing their own neighborhoods?

"fraction of the black on black crime" yes. And let us not forget "white on white crime", "latino on latino" etc. Check out FBI statistics: most violent crime is within racial/ethnic groups. Not just blacks. Time to find a new red herring

[Puchaiyank]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Not irony, the police are employed to stop crime, and here they are committing crimes.

What's their justification for shooting someone, who's unarmed, in the back more than once?

 

The police need to know, if they shoot an unarmed person they will lose their job and spend the rest of their life in jail.

They know it...there has been a culture of allowing cops to literally get away with murder...not any more...they are under an hourglass and everyone with a cell phone is recording the bully cops misdeeds...

[Hamus Yaigh]

14 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Most people in the US agree that there is a need for wholesale police reform.

Whilst turning a blind eye to gun reform. Heard it all before. To the rest of the world this is Darwinism.

[NanLaew]

14 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Why aren't the blacks policing their own neighborhoods?

Isn't that what happens in a ghetto?

 

Why should Blacks start 'policing their own neighborhoods' when the local law enforcement works under the all-inclusive banner of "To Serve and Protect" ?

 

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Ive been following this since it happened. Along with all the business that are being burned to the ground and officers being assaulted by BLM as a result. 

 

We also dont know if he had a gun in the car, or if he was reaching for one in the car, or if he had a knife, or didn't. Clearly got something in his hand though. 

 

 

Looks like a clear cut case of "walking with car keys while Black" to me.

[Mama Noodle]

6 minutes ago, Emdog said:

"fraction of the black on black crime" yes. And let us not forget "white on white crime", "latino on latino" etc. Check out FBI statistics: most violent crime is within racial/ethnic groups. Not just blacks. Time to find a new red herring

Most violent crime, murders, mass killings, is within the black community. Not any other community. It’s shockingly high. 

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Looks like a clear cut case of "walking with car keys while Black" to me.

 

Could very well be car keys.

 

But assuming the situation would have played out differently if he'd been a different color is not statistically accurate, or honest. 

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Blacks have a chip on their shoulder

 

 

[Mama Noodle]

15 minutes ago, Susco said:

I know for myself, I wouldn't want to be a policeman in the US if they paid me a million $ a month.

 

And thats the problem. At this point of rising violent crime in the USA and every time a shot like this happens, people jump on it as racial. 

 

If I was a cop, at this point, knowing that if you've got a democrat governor and mayor, best thing to do is let violent criminals run off because if it gets bad, like this one did, people will be calling for your arrest and burning city blocks to the ground. 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

...Blacks have a chip on their shoulder and 

.... 7 bullets in their back.

(fixed it for ya)

[ivor bigun]

I dont think the cop should have shot him so many times ,or whether at all ,but all i can say ,is when ordered to stop ,just do as your told ,dont try to get into a car especially if you are known to the police as a violent criminal to start with.

Also why is it in These Black areas the first reaction seems to be go on a looting and burning spree?

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

So you're suggesting those police are the only one's in the US without a taser?  Failing that, you're saying one bullet in the leg wouldn't have stopped him? Or even one bullet in the back?

 

He absolutely needed to be shot 7x at close range, no other solution?  Are you going to suggest the officer showed great restraint by not putting all 15 bullets in the magazine into the guy?

It puts me in mind of the Private Eye cover after the London police shot Jean Charles De Menezes.

 

Investigator: "Why did you shoot the deceased 7 times in the head?"

Police Officer: "Because I ran out of bullets."

[sungod]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

 

 

Taser might of worked if they got good contact, but if it didn't then you'd risk an armed felon running off in a car with children inside. 

Yep, better to shoot him in front of the kids eh?

 

Sorry, seems the US Police only know how to stop a suspect by deadly force, they really need to do better.

[Bundooman]

15 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Most people in the US agree that there is a need for wholesale police reform.

 

The irony of the news reporting is that police mistreating blacks is a fraction of the black on black crime which largely goes unreported. 

 

Why aren't the blacks policing their own neighborhoods?

Is vigilantism legal in the USA then?

[NanLaew]

30 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

You... Dont really know what that word means. 

 

The system of justice in the USA is not racist. Heavy handed, maybe. But not racist. Calling it that helps no-one and changes nothing. 

Having personally spent a long weekend as a guest of the Houston Police Department, I as a bona fide white boy can attest to their heavy-handed AND racist behavior. My only saving grace is I made bail before I got transferred over to Harris County's detention which everyone reckoned, including HPD officers, would make my previous 72-hours look like a walk in the park.

 

In Part II, I will relate how the Court-ordered and mutually agreed probation was summarily undone by indolence and sloth and what happens when a charge pops up on the ICE computer on arrival at the airport some four years after being dismissed by the Court along with the long-rescinded arrest warrant.

Edited August 25, 2020 by NanLaew

[Pilotman]

2 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Riots. Riots erupted in Kenosha. They burned whole businesses and dang near whole city blocks. 

I'm not surprised. 

[riclag]

15 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Most people in the US agree that there is a need for wholesale police reform.

 

The irony of the news reporting is that police mistreating blacks is a fraction of the black on black crime which largely goes unreported. 

 

Why aren't the blacks policing their own neighborhoods?

Most rational people would agree to obey police commands too !

I must admit cops have a low tolerance for any skin color who won't follow simple demands! Don't know the whole story,. What prompted the police to have weapons drawn from the other side of the car!

 

  Another state run by a Democrat  governor! 

In the past local and state officials would call for a investigation while asking for calm!  In light of the past 3 months,with the mayhem and riots that has occurred in my country,this nonsensical  state official(governor ) must imop issue strict consequences for people who commit violence. Sad !

 

 

 

 

[Pilotman]

Sorry my American friends,  but there is something profoundly sick in your society.  This is just the latest manifestation of it. Your gun laws are more suited to Military action or the wild west than the twenty first century. You fairly routinely massacre a few of your school children.  Your black citizens, not to say anything of Native Americans and Hispanics, are barely tolerated by many white communities and to top it all, your Police are out of control moronic thugs. There is a virus in the US, but its not Covid 19 and it is much more deadly. 

Edited August 25, 2020 by Pilotman

[Pilotman]

10 minutes ago, izod10 said:

All the black guy(s) had to do is stand still as ordered,instead of going their own sweet way. You know the potential with this filth by past rap sheets,long as your arm

yep, a good reason to shoot a unarmed man in the back.  ????

[steven100]

The guy was a criminal with outstanding warrants.  He was no angel.

I bet he'll obey a police order or direction next time ....  that's for sure. 

 

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by steven100

[izod10]

Just now, faraday said:

Racist remark.

Racist? the cops knew him,his previous rap sheet,his potential   sure racism there  lol

[mtls2005]

36 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

I find comments like these particularly disgusting and inflammatory, and it helps nothing. 

 

I would expect my comments to strike a nerve with someone of your ilk, and to elicit a massively defensive retort.

 

Predictable and thanks for staying in your lane.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by mtls2005

[Scott]

Numerous posts removed.   Continue with the racist remarks and receive a suspension.  

 

[Pilotman]

Just now, izod10 said:

Once the black was in the car ,you do know/or not what was in the car,quite easily reaching for a gun

then tackle the man, there were two of them, plus why not taser him if he was such a threat and was there a gun in the car, no.   The Police were cowards and it shows. The fact that anyone on TVF or anywhere else. supports their actions is an good indication of the virus of hatred and violence that is so prevalent in the US.  

[Pilotman]

2 minutes ago, steven100 said:

The guy was a criminal with outstanding warrants.  He was no angel that's for sure. The police did what was necessary.  imo

They did what cowards do.