Trump's physician denies president had a stroke in November

[heybruce]

36 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Fred Trump lived to the age of 94. Clearly Trump inherited superb genes.

 

In light of the longevity we can expect of Trump, and his robust health, perhaps we should consider amending the constitution to allow Trump to serve a bit longer? Like Putin did.

 

Donald Trump's older brother died at 41 and his younger brother at 71.  Not such superb genes.

[heybruce]

18 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Well, when Biden lies through his teeth that Trump is responsible for the riots you know where he stands, don't you?

Compare that to Trump's lie that Obama founded ISIS.

[Logosone]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

Donald Trump's older brother died at 41 and his younger brother at 71.  Not such superb genes.

Everyone knows Trump's older brother had a heart attack caused by alcoholism, not genetics.

[heybruce]

1 minute ago, Logosone said:

Everyone knows Trump's older brother had a heart attack caused by alcoholism, not genetics.

That doesn't prove he would have lived a long life without alcohol  And it doesn't address his younger brother's death.

 

The fact remains that Trump is genetically closer to his brothers than to his parents or his sisters.  And both Donald Trump's brothers are dead, one at age 41 and one at 71.  Your claim "Clearly Trump inherited superb genes." is based on nothing but wishful thinking.

[Logosone]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Compare that to Trump's lie that Obama founded ISIS.

What Trump meant was that Obama by withdrawing US troops created a situation which allowed ISIS to gain real power, and Hilary Clinton's decision to arm rebels in Syria made things worse, that by weakening Syria that enabled ISIS to rise.

 

 

[Logosone]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

That doesn't prove he would have lived a long life without alcohol  And it doesn't address his younger brother's death.

 

The fact remains that Trump is genetically closer to his brothers than to his parents or his sisters.  And both Donald Trump's brothers are dead, one at age 41 and one at 71.  Your claim "Clearly Trump inherited superb genes." is based on nothing but wishful thinking.

Fred Trump lived to 94 and Donald Trump is robust health at age 74 stemming a workload most retirees in Thailand can only dream about. He has superb genes.

[cmarshall]

24 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

Donald Trump's older brother died at 41 and his younger brother at 71.  Not such superb genes.

Not very relevant.  Longevity is now believed to be no more than 15% heritable.

[heybruce]

12 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Fred Trump lived to 94 and Donald Trump is robust health at age 74 stemming a workload most retirees in Thailand can only dream about. He has superb genes.

Your not troubled by facts, are you?

[heybruce]

14 minutes ago, Logosone said:

What Trump meant was that Obama by withdrawing US troops created a situation which allowed ISIS to gain real power, and Hilary Clinton's decision to arm rebels in Syria made things worse, that by weakening Syria that enabled ISIS to rise.

Obama withdrew troops from Iraq when its government insisted that US troops be subject to Iraqi law.  No US President would agree to that.

 

But if you insist on crediting Obama with ISIS, then Trump takes credit for Russia's dominance in Syria, securing President al-Assad's regime, and the betrayal of the Kurds,  our only effective ally in the region.

 

And if you can stretch reality enough to defend Trump's BS about Obama founding ISIS, then reality can easily be stretched to defend the claim that Trump, by doing nothing about egregious police killings of black suspects, is responsible for the violence in the cities.

[Logosone]

1 minute ago, cmarshall said:

Not very relevant.  Longevity is now believed to be no more than 15% heritable.

Lol, they've now even identified the specific genes relevant to longevity.

 

 New research suggests that an important indicator of your probable life span may be your genes. Scientists have identified unique genetic signatures strongly associated with a long and healthy life, findings that could help to further the understanding of how certain genes may offer protection from common age-related diseases like cancer, dementia and cardiovascular disease.

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-factors-associated-with-increased-longevity-identified/

[polpott]

12 minutes ago, Logosone said:

He has superb genes.

Levis no doubt.

[heybruce]

3 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

Not very relevant.  Longevity is now believed to be no more than 15% heritable.

I'd be interested in a source for you claim, but I was simply identifying why there is no evidence that Donald Trump has superior genes.

[jcsmith]

I don't know if Trump had mini-strokes or not. His denial makes it more believable though based on his past history of accidentally giving away the truth in trying to deny it. That hospital trip was certainly suspicious. Some of his body motions haven't looked right at times. That doesn't necessarily mean he had a stroke though.

 

What I do know though is that Trump tried to say that Biden was senile. He tried to claim Hillary was sick. Turnabout is fair play I guess.

Edited September 2, 2020 by jcsmith

[Logosone]

15 minutes ago, jcsmith said:

I don't know if Trump had mini-strokes or not. His denial makes it more believable though based on his past history of accidentally giving away the truth in trying to deny it. That hospital trip was certainly suspicious. Some of his body motions haven't looked right at times. That doesn't necessarily mean he had a stroke though.

 

What I do know though is that Trump tried to say that Biden was senile. He tried to claim Hillary was sick. Turnabout is fair play I guess.

Fake news and base lies, pure Democrat smears contradicted even by a doctor.

 

But then, one expects nothing else of desperate Democrats than having to resort to smear campaign and lies. They can't win on policies obviously.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Fake news and base lies, pure Democrat smears contradicted even by a doctor.

 

But then, one expects nothing else of desperate Democrats than having to resort to smear campaign and lies. They can't win on policies obviously.

The question of whether or not Trump

has suffered a stroke is not ‘Fake News’.

 

It was Trump himself who made un- prompted statements that he had not suffered a stroke.

 

It is the fact that he did so when there were no news reports on the matter together with the obviously false account of why in November he was rushed to the Walter Read Hospital that has driven the question of Trump having a stroke in the News.

 

Trump himself, with his statements, has invited scrutiny of his health.

 

His resent slurred speech, difficulty walking and struggles with such things as drinking water add to legitimate question, ‘is the President unwell?’.

 

Be assured , now that Trump has introduced his health as a topic of news discussion, his health will be continually scrutinized.

 

Away with your accusation of ‘fake news’.

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[polpott]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Be assures, now that Trump has introduced his health as a topic of news discussion, his health will be continually scrutinized.

Shame we can't do the same with his tax returns (as with most other presidents). Now that would be interesting.

[ballpoint]

So it's not only on the golf course that Trump lies about how many strokes he had.

[Antonymous]

4 hours ago, Poet said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You cannot conceive that anyone who wants to discuss the realities of the situation, rather than join you in your jihad, is automatically a "Trumpist" and must consider him to be their hero.

Trump won because people like you abandoned all intellectual integrity long ago. Very few of the people who voted for Trump consider him to be a hero, few even particularly like the guy, but they are absolutely certain that, given a choice between that narcisist and the anti-democratic partisans like you, they will choose Trump every time.

Time and time again people like you have surfaced with a clear idea of how other people should think, and how they should live. Democracy is offensive to you because you secretly believe the common man and woman to be uncouth idiots. They keep voting the wrong way!

You are the cultural revoluntionary who led physics professors to their deaths in Beijing. You are the khmer idealogue who slaughtered his fellow Cambodians for not agreeing with your bright, shining plan to drag their country back into the middle ages. You and your ilk represent a greater danger to the world than Trump ever has, precisely because you are so smugly certain of your own rightness.

There are good, solid arguments that can be made against Trump, but you are all so focused on making it personal that you have forgotten how to argue rationally. I have no idea how he does it, but this is Trump Derangement Syndrome and it appears to have, once again, gripped your party and blinded it to the actual path to power.

 

 

This is an excellent post that hits the nail on the head.

 

The media are responsible for misrepresenting the facts and posting opinion as fact and there is today a whole section of the populace that has lost all sense of reality, holding hopelessly one-sided views and who in many cases simply cannot stand back and see what is happening. People like this for example:

 

 

 

[mtls2005]

"Mini-strokes"?

 

Sounds like some technique Ms. Daniels used?

 

 

[tomazbodner]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

"The president remains healthy and I have no concerns about his ability to maintain the rigorous schedule ahead of him. As stated in my last report, I expect him to remain fit to execute the duties of the Presidency," Conley added.

Darn! I should switch to KFC, Wendy's and McDonald's diet to improve my health!

[kamahele]

And who is responsible for this rumor? Donald Trump himself. Some pundit tweeted something like "did he have a stroke"? Due to another unannounced visit to the hospital and Trump took to the twitter waves and started talking about multiple mini strokes lol.

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

 

This is an excellent post that hits the nail on the head.

 

The media are responsible for misrepresenting the facts and posting opinion as fact and there is today a whole section of the populace that has lost all sense of reality, holding hopelessly one-sided views and who in many cases simply cannot stand back and see what is happening. People like this for example:

The fact that the media media reporting does not match your own world view is not evidence that the media is ‘misrepresenting facts’.

 

Ripped memes don’t help your argument either.

[mtls2005]

His left-side is definitely impaired, and the brace they have him wearing doesn't help that much.

 

He almost fell off the platform in NH.

 

Almost seems criminal for his family to let him move about without using assistance, or a wheelchair?

 

And why do they let him wear those silly lifts?

 

 

Not sure he's gonna make it to the finish line?

 

Imagine pence and mother are quite moist?

 

 

[riclag]

5 hours ago, Logosone said:

There is no base and low lie, rumour or insunation the left will abstain from to smear this president.

 

You just have to watch him talk and look at him to see that any talk of a stroke is just another malicious leftist rumour spread, at election time surprise surprise, to harm Trump's image.

 

The man is healthy as a rock for his age, it's plain to see. Even has his own hair at that age, astounding health.

 he deny's it  ,his doctor deny's it, but some people here just can't get their heads around it, lol . Surely the  left must be running out of gotcha moments and Whistleblower's by now! imop.

[ballpoint]

40 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

His left-side is definitely impaired

He doesn't have a left-side, only a far right one.

[wabothai]

7 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump is morbidly obese with a BMI well above the healthy range which make him much more likely to get a stroke. Obesity will cause plaque build up in the arteries and act as blood clot and if it is an artery in your heart, an heart attack can occurred. He should stop eating his favourite junk food. 

disagree, he should eat more of it.

[natway09]

Maybe just a brain drain then !!

[earlinclaifornia]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So why did he choose to make a news item out of something nobody was talking about?

 

Be assured, he’s put a big spotlight on his own health.

 

His already noticed slurring of words, inability to construct full sentences, problems with balance and such simple tasks as drinking a glass of water are now fair game evidence of his underlying health issues.

 

Going forward he will very reasonably be under close scrutiny for evidence of neurological problems.

 

He, Donald Trump, invited this scrutiny.

 

Well done that man.

 

 

Yes, he is not well, just last week he had a problem trying to move up to the lectern in NH. He actually was wildly flailing to avoid his falling. Unfit and obese, not capable.

[ChouDoufu]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It seems Pence is now suffering memory loss, in reference to when Trump was rushed into the Walter Reed Hospital, Pence says ‘he doesn’t recall if he was asked to standby to take over if Trump needed surgery’.

 

Being asked to be ready to stand in for the President while he’s just been rushed into hospital doesn’t sound like the kind of thing anyone would have difficulty recalling.

 

 

how strange is it that the vice-president is unable to directly answer a simple yes/no question?  asked if he was told to be on stand-by, he responded that nothing out of the ordinary occurred that day.  well, being on stand-by in case of surgery would be ordinary.

 

asked a second time, he suddenly didn't recall?  talk about dementia!  asked if he had been put on notice that he may be required to assume the duties of the most powerful human on the planet, and get to play with the nukular football, he didn't remember?  kind of disqualifies him to be commander-in-chief if that sort of thing could slip his mind.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pence-says-he-doesnt-recall-being-told-to-be-on-standby-over-trump-walter-reed-visit-the-president-is-in-excellent-health/

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

 he deny's it  ,his doctor deny's it, but some people here just can't get their heads around it, lol . Surely the  left must be running out of gotcha moments and Whistleblower's by now! imop.

He denied something nobody was even talking about, but which coincidentally explains very much about his visibly failing health.

 

Methinks he did protest too much.

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Chomper Higgot