Trump alleges plane of 'thugs' being probed, but other officials cannot confirm it

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Trump said it!

Oh I see now , you dont believe anything Trump says , you think everything he says is a lie, so when he said that an investigation has been launched, then that must mean that an investigation hasn't been launched. 

   I understand now how you formed your opinion 

[Bluespunk]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

Trump said it!

We can add that to his ever expanding list of lies. 

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

We can add that to his ever expanding list of lies. 

Do you have any actual evidence that there isnt an investigation going on ?

[Berkshire]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

We can add that to his ever expanding list of lies. 

That list of lies is expanding rapidly and will increase exponentially right up through the election.  In fact, we can pretty much assume that any time Trump opens his mouth to talk about Biden, it will be a lie. 

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Do you have any actual evidence that there isnt an investigation going on ?

The boy who cried wolf is a perfect way of reflecting upon trumps time in the White House. 

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The boy who cried wolf is a perfect way of reflecting upon trumps time in the White House. 

That doesnt answer the question though , its not proof of anything 

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

That doesnt answer the question though , its not proof of anything 

 

Well, you don't seem to have issues about lack of proof with regard to Trump's own comment. Do you actually find it even halfway believable a group of armed "thugs" being able to board a commercial flight in the USA? I mean, seriously, how far does this Trump auto-defense goes?

 

Edit - Thought about it again, and recalled the "covfefe" topic. Even that bit of nonsense got similar responses as above, so probably same in this case.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Morch

[rudi49jr]

Trump sounds like my cousin a lot of the time. My cousin has a neighbor who tells my cousin the most ridiculous things and the craziest conspiracy sh*t you can imagine, and my cousin, bless his heart, believes every single word and then goes around town telling everyone who will listen the same BS. 
Trump is a lot like that. He hears things, and when they fit his twisted world view, automatically assumes it must be true and then feels the need to spread the message. How someone like that can be president of the most powerful country in the world is totally beyond me.

[Sujo]

22 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Oh I see now , you dont believe anything Trump says , you think everything he says is a lie, so when he said that an investigation has been launched, then that must mean that an investigation hasn't been launched. 

   I understand now how you formed your opinion 

Because no one on his team knows about any investigation. It was a conspiracy site that posted it months ago.

 

Also, with over 20,000 lies he does have form. Remember he said he had investigators in hawaii for obamas birth certicate and you wouldnt believe what they are finding, amazing things.

 

But he never actually sent any investigators.

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Well, you don't seem to have issues about lack of proof with regard to Trump's own comment. Do you actually find it even halfway believable a group of armed "thugs" being able to board a commercial flight in the USA? I mean, seriously, how far does this Trump auto-defense goes?

 

Edit - Thought about it again, and recalled the "covfefe" topic. Even that bit of nonsense got similar responses as above, so probably same in this case.

I havent claimed it to be factual , someone mentioned it to Trump and he asked for an investigation to be carried  as to what has happened .

  Which would be the normal thing to do, rather than just to dismiss the allegations .

I sure there will be a reasonable explanation 

[Thomas J]

9 hours ago, YetAnother said:

we already knew this guy was delusional , now add 'paranoid'

Well that is what was said about him when he said that Trump tower was being spied upon.  TURNS OUT HE WAS RIGHT  The FBI obtained a FISA warrant based on bogus evidence on Trump aide Carter Page.  That in turn gave the FBI the ability to do wiretapping and surveillance on Carter Page, anyone he contacted, and anyone those people in turn contacted.  And given that why wouldn't you be a bit suspicious? 

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Because no one on his team knows about any investigation. It was a conspiracy site that posted it months ago.

 

 

"Acting Homeland Security chief Wolf said the U.S. Justice Department was investigating individuals who were paying others to travel around the country to take part in protests."

[Morch]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

I havent claimed it to be factual , someone mentioned it to Trump and he asked for an investigation to be carried  as to what has happened .

  Which would be the normal thing to do, rather than just to dismiss the allegations .

I sure there will be a reasonable explanation 

 

No, that's the normal thing to do is not order an investigation (even an imaginary one) into each and every half cooked story someone told someone else. By your "rationale", there would be numerous investigations into various Trump affairs, statements and potential conflict of interests. Then again, Trump supporters on this forum claim over and over that there's no reason to investigate on the force of allegations.

 

Considering the number of lies, untruth, conspiracy theories and whatnot the President traffics, it would not be the "normal" thing to check each and every nonsense he's into at a given moment.

[Morch]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

"Acting Homeland Security chief Wolf said the U.S. Justice Department was investigating individuals who were paying others to travel around the country to take part in protests."

 

That's hardly the same thing. You fail Cherry-picking 101.

[Sujo]

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

I havent claimed it to be factual , someone mentioned it to Trump and he asked for an investigation to be carried  as to what has happened .

  Which would be the normal thing to do, rather than just to dismiss the allegations .

I sure there will be a reasonable explanation 

no. He said he has asked.for an investigation. That doesnt mean there is one or even that he did ask for one.

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

"Acting Homeland Security chief Wolf said the U.S. Justice Department was investigating individuals who were paying others to travel around the country to take part in protests."

That has nothing to do with what he said.

Btw, is it illegal to pay someone to protest?

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

That has nothing to do with what he said.

Btw, is it illegal to pay someone to protest?

It does, it shows theres an investigation into people being paid to travel to protests in groups , which may be the same group of people that this story is about  

[Bluespunk]

30 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

That doesnt answer the question though , its not proof of anything 

It does answer your question.

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

It does answer your question.

You suggesting Trump is crying wolf, isnt proof of anything .

 

[Tonyt00]

This guy is nothing but a Joke!

[Silurian]

For anyone that cares about the origin of this story.

 

Russ Thor Wade - Facebook post archive

 

It appears that after this post, several other Facebook individuals piled on.

 

Trump's 'plane loaded with thugs' conspiracy theory matches months-old rumor

 

Quote

One post claimed that “Antifa has sent a plane load of their people” and that the Payette County Sheriff’s Office confirmed it. Within days, that version of the rumor picked up enough steam in Idaho Facebook groups that the Payette County Sheriff’s Office had to release a statement insisting that the viral rumor was “false information.”

 

[Eric Loh]

9 minutes ago, Silurian said:

For anyone that cares about the origin of this story.

 

Russ Thor Wade - Facebook post archive

 

It appears that after this post, several other Facebook individuals piled on.

 

Trump's 'plane loaded with thugs' conspiracy theory matches months-old rumor

 

 

There was also a thread that said it started with right wing evangelical Franklin Graham's facebook insertion that he heard someone who saw those thugs on plane. Franklin is Trump's informal adviser. Scary that Trump is surrounded by crazy conspiracy nutters and loving it. 

[Silurian]

And you have people coming over with bags of soup — big bags of soup. And they lay it on the ground, and the anarchists take it and they start throwing it at our cops, at our police. And if it hits you, that's worse than a brick because that's got force. It's the perfect size. It's, like, made perfect.

And when they get caught, they say, 'No, this is just soup for my family.' And then the media says, 'This is just soup. These people are very, very innocent. They're innocent people. These are just protesters. Isn't it wonderful to allow protesting?'

[Eric Loh]

14 minutes ago, Silurian said:

And you have people coming over with bags of soup — big bags of soup. And they lay it on the ground, and the anarchists take it and they start throwing it at our cops, at our police. And if it hits you, that's worse than a brick because that's got force. It's the perfect size. It's, like, made perfect.

And when they get caught, they say, 'No, this is just soup for my family.' And then the media says, 'This is just soup. These people are very, very innocent. They're innocent people. These are just protesters. Isn't it wonderful to allow protesting?'

You meant this from Trump again. The response from confused readers were hilarious.

https://thegailygrind.com/2020/09/01/trump-is-now-claiming-protesters-are-throwing-big-bags-of-soup-at-police-its-worse-than-a-brick/

 

[Silurian]

And then they have cans of soup. Soup. And they throw the cans of soup. That’s better than a brick because you can’t throw a brick; it’s too heavy. But a can of soup, you can really put some power into that, right?

[mrfill]

He heard from a man who said he had spoken to a man who was there.

 

Isn't that usually classified as tittle-tattle?

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

You suggesting Trump is crying wolf, isnt proof of anything .

 

I was suggesting, well stating, trump is a consummate liar and this is just more bs from him. 

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I was suggesting, well stating, trump is a consummate liar and this is just more bs from him. 

But that isnt proof that there isnt an investigation occurring 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

It does, it shows theres an investigation into people being paid to travel to protests in groups , which may be the same group of people that this story is about  

No it is nothing of the sort. He previously said he sent investigators to hawaii to investigate obamas birth certificate. He did no such thing.

 

It does not show there is an investigation. It only shows that trump said there is. No one else knows about any such investigation.

 

You didnt answer my question. Is it illegal to pay protestors?

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

No it is nothing of the sort. He previously said he sent investigators to hawaii to investigate obamas birth certificate. He did no such thing.

 

It does not show there is an investigation. It only shows that trump said there is. No one else knows about any such investigation.

 

You didnt answer my question. Is it illegal to pay protestors?

Where is your proof that Trump didnt send his own investigators  to Hawaii ?

It isnt illegal to pay people to protest