Ministry seeks ways to solve online gambling problem

[snoop1130]

Ministry seeks ways to solve online gambling problem

By The Nation

 

Buddhipongse Punnakanta

 

Digital Economy and Society Minister Buddhipongse Punnakanta met with the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) and internet service providers on Wednesday (September 9) to look for ways of solving the online gambling problem in Thailand.

 

He said it was becoming easier to place bets online, and that his ministry has cooperated with related agencies to arrest more than 20 owners of gambling websites across the country. He said more than Bt1 billion is circulated via these websites.

 

“The ministry has realised that online gambling is having an adverse impact on the economy and society, so we have discussed ways of suppressing this with the National Police chief Pol General Chakthip Chaijinda and Technology Crime Suppression Division director Pol General Suwat Chaengyodsuk,” he said.

 

Online gambling is considered an offence under Article 4 of the 1935 Gambling Act, while those who invite others to place bets are violating both the Gambling Act and the Computer Crimes Act.

 

“People are encouraged to send screenshots or the URL of online gambling ads or websites to the DESMonitor Facebook page. Officials will submit this as evidence to police for investigation, and the ministry will close the website after receiving police approval,” he said.

 

The minister added that a third notice will be sent to 3,097 social media pages and websites with illegal content, 1,748 of which are Facebook pages, 607 YouTube clips, 261 Twitter messages and 481 websites.

 

“Over the last week, [August 29 to September 7], 1,541 social-media pages and websites were reported, of which 210 were found to be in violation of the Computer Crimes Act. Of the 210, 161 are Facebook pages, 29 YouTube clips, two Twitter messages and 18 websites," he added.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30394253

 

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[johng]

Here is a crazy idea to solve the "problem"  just legalise it   you know like the lottery is legal  that's gambling too.

[86Tiger]

You can't stop the signal....

[Moonlover]

3 hours ago, johng said:

Here is a crazy idea to solve the "problem"  just legalise it   you know like the lottery is legal  that's gambling too.

I completely disagree with you. There is no comparison between buying a lottery ticket with money that's in your pocket and the ever growing problem of addiction to and debt being caused by on-line gaming. It's a serious problem worldwide.

[Destiny1990]

So no casino hub in the pipeline? ????

[scammed]

11 hours ago, Moonlover said:

I completely disagree with you. There is no comparison between buying a lottery ticket with money that's in your pocket and the ever growing problem of addiction to and debt being caused by on-line gaming. It's a serious problem worldwide.

whats the difference ?

[Moonlover]

22 minutes ago, scammed said:

11 hours ago, Moonlover said:

I completely disagree with you. There is no comparison between buying a lottery ticket with money that's in your pocket and the ever growing problem of addiction to and debt being caused by on-line gaming. It's a serious problem worldwide.

 

22 minutes ago, scammed said:

whats the difference ?

You mean you can't tell the difference between dipping into your pocket and spending 80 Baht on a lottery ticket and blowing the household budget via a debit card on these gaming sites? And very often the punters don't even realize they are doing so.

 

It's a huge problem and good luck to the government if they can find a way of curbing it.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

So no casino hub in the pipeline? ????

They exist, just use the back-door.

[connda]

Legalize gambling.  Problem solved.

[Paiman]

If the government could make money with it, it would be legal. 

 

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The ministry has realised that online gambling is having an adverse impact on the economy and society

 

Don,t have any illusions about the government caring for society, its just the money they want.

[Bangkok Barry]

15 hours ago, johng said:

Here is a crazy idea to solve the "problem"  just legalise it   you know like the lottery is legal  that's gambling too.

Thailand is alone among its neighbours in not allowing gambling/casinos. A cynic might say that if such were made legal then the shadowy figures behind the illegal casinos, who no doubt include those who make the laws or influence the lawmakers, would lose their billions.

[johng]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

You mean you can't tell the difference between dipping into your pocket and spending 80 Baht on a lottery ticket and blowing the household budget

You could just as easily blow the household budget buying lottery tickets,  if a person is addicted to gambling they will find a way to gamble, they gamble at the horse-racing tracks,at cock fights,at boxing matches,on football results,over beetle races or Siamese fish fights  even at funerals.

 

its the very same "problem"  as prostitution and drug use  the government tries and fails consistently to

eradicate the "problem"   when the real "problem"  is them being illegal...they have legalised some drugs like tobacco and alcohol  but seem to be regressing on those too.

[Moonlover]

5 minutes ago, johng said:

You could just as easily blow the household budget buying lottery tickets,  if a person is addicted to gambling they will find a way to gamble, they gamble at the horse-racing tracks,at cock fights,at boxing matches,on football results,over beetle races or Siamese fish fights  even at funerals.

 

its the very same "problem"  as prostitution and drug use  the government tries and fails consistently to

eradicate the "problem"   when the real "problem"  is them being illegal...they have legalised some drugs like tobacco and alcohol  but seem to be regressing on those too.

Oh I agree with you. but the big difference between 'traditional' gambling methods and the on-line methods is that with the former punters are generally using money in their pocket and when it's gone, it's gone.

 

On-line gambling is paid with debit or credit cards. It is all too easy to run up large debts, especially using a credit cards. I think most of are aware that Thais generally seem to lack the ability to budget sensibly. That's the problem.

[Moonlover]

26 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Thailand is alone among its neighbours in not allowing gambling/casinos. A cynic might say that if such were made legal then the shadowy figures behind the illegal casinos, who no doubt include those who make the laws or influence the lawmakers, would lose their billions.

Ah but that is a misleading observation. In both Laos and Cambodia gambling is still illegal, just as it is here. The casinos that are operated in those countries are targeting foreign visitors, not the local population.

 

What is somewhat cynical is that the casinos in Savannakhet and Vientiane could well be construed as targeting Thai nationals as well as the obvious Chinese tourists. 

[Bender Rodriguez]

make it legal & tax it

 

in the meantime, the police NEVER know about real gambling dens

 

except when they forgot to pay the monthly brown envelope

[heina]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Legalize gambling.  Problem solved.

That was "solved" in Cambodia, Philippines, Laos,  Myanmar.

Nothing came up better. More trash.

[Ketyo]

Morons. Just legalise it and get out of people's faces. 

[Burma Bill]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

In both Laos and Cambodia gambling is still illegal, just as it is here.

Yes indeed but Burma (Myanmar) recognized the problem and took this action last year - sensible reading to me:-

 

12 SEPTEMBER 2019

MYANMAR

Legalisation of Casinos under the new Gambling Law 2019

The gambling landscape in Myanmar has finally been legalised with the introduction of the Gambling Law 2019 (Pyidaungsu Hluttaw Law No.13/2019) (“the Law”). Illegal gambling is more harmful than legal wagering and the legalisation of casinos will help in protecting citizens against any mistreatment or cheating, provide revenue to the country as well as creates jobs for the locals and promotes a safer environment for people to gamble.

[Moonlover]

14 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Yes indeed but Burma (Myanmar) recognized the problem and took this action last year - sensible reading to me:-

 

12 SEPTEMBER 2019

MYANMAR

Legalisation of Casinos under the new Gambling Law 2019

The gambling landscape in Myanmar has finally been legalised with the introduction of the Gambling Law 2019 (Pyidaungsu Hluttaw Law No.13/2019) (“the Law”). Illegal gambling is more harmful than legal wagering and the legalisation of casinos will help in protecting citizens against any mistreatment or cheating, provide revenue to the country as well as creates jobs for the locals and promotes a safer environment for people to gamble.

The wheels to modernity turn very slowly in Asia. Glad to see that at least one of them is waking up. But I'm still firmly against on-line gambling which the real problem

[scammed]

3 hours ago, Moonlover said:

 

You mean you can't tell the difference between dipping into your pocket and spending 80 Baht on a lottery ticket and blowing the household budget via a debit card on these gaming sites? And very often the punters don't even realize they are doing so.

 

It's a huge problem and good luck to the government if they can find a way of curbing it.

can you elaborate on the difference in practical terms ?

what do you mean with "And very often the punters don't even realize they are doing so." ?

[Moonlover]

2 minutes ago, scammed said:

can you elaborate on the difference in practical terms ?

what do you mean with "And very often the punters don't even realize they are doing so." ?

When one is buying lottery tickets or betting on the cock fight or similar, you're using money from your pocket. You can see your wallet getting thinner.

 

When folks are gambling on, let's say an on-line slots or a blackjack site it is all too easy to get caught up in the game and stick just another 100 Baht on the bank card and another and another.

 

And it happens!

[scammed]

5 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

When one is buying lottery tickets or betting on the cock fight or similar, you're using money from your pocket. You can see your wallet getting thinner.

 

When folks are gambling on, let's say an on-line slots or a blackjack site it is all too easy to get caught up in the game and stick just another 100 Baht on the bank card and another and another.

 

And it happens!

everyone got primary school math education,

you are talking about responsibility but that dont make a difference whether you transfer money electronically or

by paper

[Moonlover]

2 hours ago, scammed said:

everyone got primary school math education,

you are talking about responsibility but that dont make a difference whether you transfer money electronically or

by paper

This reply of yours seems to indicate that you have little regard or maybe even understanding of the frailties of human nature. 

 

If mankind wasn't weak willed there wouldn't be any casinos. (and not as many farangs living in Thailand!)

[from the home of CC]

21 hours ago, johng said:

Here is a crazy idea to solve the "problem"  just legalise it   you know like the lottery is legal  that's gambling too.

 exactly - like anything in life, telling people they can't have it causes them to want it more. For instance, when the Cuban embargo (US) was in full swing I used to go (no issue as a CDN) buy a few boxes of Montecristo cigars and when home resell them to cover the whole cost of my vacation. A war on any vice will cause some people to go great lengths to partake in it..

[ChipButty]

I see 14 arrested in Phuket Town illegal gambling den

[ChipButty]

3 hours ago, Moonlover said:

When one is buying lottery tickets or betting on the cock fight or similar, you're using money from your pocket. You can see your wallet getting thinner.

 

When folks are gambling on, let's say an on-line slots or a blackjack site it is all too easy to get caught up in the game and stick just another 100 Baht on the bank card and another and another.

 

And it happens!

I know a guy used to buy 10,000 to 15,000 Baht a month on lottery tickets is that not gambling?

[Moonlover]

20 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

I know a guy used to buy 10,000 to 15,000 Baht a month on lottery tickets is that not gambling?

I have not said that the lottery is not gambling and if he was happy with his activity and could afford there's no problem.

 

But the topic is on-line gambling. That's a whole different ball game.

 

And just as an afterthought, how does anyone find the time to check all those lottery tickets for a win?

Edited September 10, 2020 by Moonlover

[Mr Meeseeks]

4 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

make it legal & tax it

 

in the meantime, the police NEVER know about real gambling dens

 

except when they forgot to pay the monthly brown envelope

Lol the Police run them mate.

[DrTuner]

Ban online everything. Build the Wall. Or, just buy it from our CCP friends. Actually, they'll give it for free. Special offer just for you my friend.

[DrTuner]

6 hours ago, connda said:

Legalize gambling.  Problem solved.

Just, for the love of the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster, do not put the casinos near Pattaya.

 

They are like turds to flies for the Chinese.