Four returnees, three foreigners test positive in quarantine

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Four returnees, three foreigners test positive in quarantine

By The Nation

 

 

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) reported seven new cases in state quarantine over a 24-hour period on Sunday.

 

The new cases include a 49-year-old Thai crane operator, who had returned from Bahrain on August 30 and was in state quarantine in Chonburi. He was found to be infected on September 11.

 

Four people -- a Thai and three Indians -- had travelled from India on September 6. The 39-year-old Thai man was found positive during state quarantine in Chonburi on September 11, while the three Indians -- a 47-year-old woman, and two businesdmen aged 47 and 48 -- tested positive in an alternative state quarantine hotel in Bangkok.

 

Two Thai returnees -- a 27-year-old woman and a 33-year-old man -- had travelled from Australia on August 30 and tested positive on September 11 in Bangkok’s state quarantine.

 

The total number of confirmed cases in Thailand stood at 3,473 (535 in state quarantine), of whom 91 are in hospital and 3,312 have recovered and been discharged. The death toll remains unchanged at 58.

 

According to Worldometer, as of 10 am on Sunday the total number of confirmed cases globally increased to 28.9 million (increasing by 288,576 over a 24-hour period); 20.8 million have recovered, while 60,889 are in severe condition and 924,558 have died.

 

Thailand ranks 125th for most cases in the world, while the US has the most number with 6.67 million, followed by India 4.75 million, Brazil 4.31 million, Russia 1.05 million and Peru 722,832

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30394460

 

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[nev]

The two Thai returning from Australia would not have been tested before leaving Australia.

Why is this still going on, Expat Australians on the same flights have to pay for the tests 72 hours before they leave why not the Thais too?.

[AndrewMciver]

Criminal that Thai's from westernised countries are not having to test before boarding. Yet foreigners are made to test.

 

Quite clearly this is dangerous and if you were into your conspiracy theory - deliberate.

 

Mandatory insurance for foreigners up to 100,000 dollars - get infected, and the hospitals are making a killing (literally). 

[Don Mega]

32 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

Criminal that Thai's from westernised countries are not having to test before boarding. Yet foreigners are made to test.

 

Quite clearly this is dangerous and if you were into your conspiracy theory - deliberate.

 

Mandatory insurance for foreigners up to 100,000 dollars - get infected, and the hospitals are making a killing (literally). 

So if the foreigners are catching it on the plane from infected untested Thai's this goes to prove social distancing and face masks don't work.

[Grumpy John]

I am of the belief that if Thai's go to other countries for well paid jobs then they have the money to pay for testing prior to boarding and quarantine on return.  The government didn't force them to work O/S.

[Tounge Thaied]

Testing, Testing, Testing. More testing more "Cases". Remember the VAST majority of "Cases" are asymptomatic, that's right no illness. "Cases" go up in countries that test... that's not rocket science. Imagine if we tested everyone for the flu? We could declare yet another pandemic. Remember the Spanish Flu? People forget, historically the flu is orders of magnitude more deadly. Btw, pick your poison (pick which of the myriad of other coronavirus') that you want to test for... those will also be at pandemic levels. 

Edited September 13, 2020 by Tounge Thaied

[bodga]

1 hour ago, nev said:

The two Thai returning from Australia would not have been tested before leaving Australia.

Why is this still going on, Expat Australians on the same flights have to pay for the tests 72 hours before they leave why not the Thais too?.

everybody  knows  Thais  dont  get Covid or  carry  it,  only  filthy dirty farangs

[AndrewMciver]

54 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

So if the foreigners are catching it on the plane from infected untested Thai's this goes to prove social distancing and face masks don't work.

 

The mask isn't the sole prevention tactic to getting people back safely. Along with layers like testing before you travel, masks, social distancing all add up to give you collective layers of more protection.

 

Once again we aren't talking about elimation but REDUCING THE RISK. 

 

I'm not getting into a mask debate, it's utterly ridiculous that you are even debating this. 

[Tounge Thaied]

40 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:

I am of the belief that if Thai's go to other countries for well paid jobs then they have the money to pay for testing prior to boarding and quarantine on return.  The government didn't force them to work O/S.

It's a seriously negligent double standard isn't it. 

[rupert the bear]

foreigners entering must test clear ,why arnt thais?its nuts they can infect the whole plane or is that just too hard to figure out.the people running this programme are just plain dumb and racist

[Don Mega]

53 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

The mask isn't the sole prevention tactic to getting people back safely. Along with layers like testing before you travel, masks, social distancing all add up to give you collective layers of more protection.

 

Once again we aren't talking about elimation but REDUCING THE RISK. 

 

I'm not getting into a mask debate, it's utterly ridiculous that you are even debating this. 

Im not debating anything but obviously social distancing and face masks is not REDUCING THE RISK.

[Don Mega]

4 minutes ago, rupert the bear said:

foreigners entering must test clear ,why arnt thais?its nuts they can infect the whole plane or is that just too hard to figure out.the people running this programme are just plain dumb and racist

Just checking my home country and a pre-flight covid test is not mentioned, maybe they are as nuts as the Thai's !

[JoePai]

3 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

Criminal that Thai's from westernised countries are not having to test before boarding. Yet foreigners are made to test.

 

Quite clearly this is dangerous and if you were into your conspiracy theory - deliberate.

 

Mandatory insurance for foreigners up to 100,000 dollars - get infected, and the hospitals are making a killing (literally). 

Not really, all foreigners should have at least that amount covered in their Medical Policies already

[Stargeezr]

People can be infected and not show symptoms on the test for the first few days of

their infection.  So if they did not know they had contacted the covid, and the test

was negative, then they start getting more symptoms when they arrived in Thailand,

well that is why this virus as all viruses are so dangerous, and contagious.  This is why the

14 day quarantine is necessary for anyone going to any country these days.

  Geezer

[Darksidedude]

im very surprised immigration in Australia would let anyone get on a flight leaving the country not to be tested, whatever nationality they are.

[Bender Rodriguez]

I wonder if those people returning are fired from their job and return

 

or for some other reason ....

[Sheryl]

6 hours ago, Don Mega said:

So if the foreigners are catching it on the plane from infected untested Thai's this goes to prove social distancing and face masks don't work.

Not much social distancing possible on a plane....

[Sheryl]

55 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

I wonder if those people returning are fired from their job and return

 

or for some other reason ....

 

I think most have left because their work dried up due to COVID restrictions etc.Restaurant workers, masseuses for example.

 

Some are leaving because of fears of COVID (If I were in India right now, for example, I'd certainly try to leave).

 

There is already travel the other way (Thais leaving for employment abroad) but some types of livelihood remain pretty well shut down.

[bodga]

7 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

The mask isn't the sole prevention tactic to getting people back safely. Along with layers like testing before you travel, masks, social distancing all add up to give you collective layers of more protection.

 

Once again we aren't talking about elimation but REDUCING THE RISK. 

 

I'm not getting into a mask debate, it's utterly ridiculous that you are even debating this. 

no  we  should,  how  about mask under the nose, many Thais do  that.

[PETERTHEEATER]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

. He was found to be infected on September 11.

Such accuracy is commendable.

[maqui]

8 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Testing, Testing, Testing. More testing more "Cases". Remember the VAST majority of "Cases" are asymptomatic, that's right no illness. "Cases" go up in countries that test... that's not rocket science. Imagine if we tested everyone for the flu? We could declare yet another pandemic. Remember the Spanish Flu? People forget, historically the flu is orders of magnitude more deadly. Btw, pick your poison (pick which of the myriad of other coronavirus') that you want to test for... those will also be at pandemic levels. 

By the 4th quarter, the US will have 300,000 fatalities, a little bit less than 1% of the population. Now you might say that, since 99% of the population will survive, a death rate of 1000 per day is pocket change and should be ignored as the new normal. But the US also chose to go to war for 20 years and spent 4 trillion USD after 3000 casualties on 9/11. If that reaction was not ouf of proportion, then Covid would justify 2000 years of war and 400 trillion of costs or lost GDP. Personally, I believe it was out of proportion and the US government reaction to Covid has been meh, probably because SARS-COV-2 does not wear a beard and a turban, so it cannot incite a rally-around-the-flag effect. Too bad for the 1000/day, for whom the Trump government cannot be bothered to make much of an organized, national effort. 

 

The seasonal flu has a fatality rate of 0.1%. Not every seasonal flu is as dangerous as the Spanish flu. Covid: 198,000 / 6.7 million cases in the US = 3% fatality rate, 30 times as much as the seasonal flu. So this is a once-in-a-century event. The Spanish flu, which probably neiter you nor I "remember", also led to (imperfect) lockdowns to get it under control. 500,000 to 850,000 US citizens died. Agent Orange´s competent management has only caused half as much so far, but only half a year has elapsed. By 2021Q2, if no fast-track vaccine can be widely distributed and at a rate of 1000/day, he will easily catch up to 500,000, 1.5% of the US population. You consider that pocket change?

[HashBrownHarry]

7 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Im not debating anything but obviously social distancing and face masks is not REDUCING THE RISK.

Of course it's reducing the risk, how do you think it's NOT?

 

The mind boggles.

[Don Mega]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Not much social distancing possible on a plane....

They are hardly sitting shoulder to shoulder though.

[Don Mega]

41 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Of course it's reducing the risk, how do you think it's NOT?

 

The mind boggles.

covid free innocents are being infected though.... how  is it reducing the risk ?

 

The mind boggles.

[nev]

2 hours ago, maqui said:

By the 4th quarter, the US will have 300,000 fatalities, a little bit less than 1% of the population. Now you might say that, since 99% of the population will survive, a death rate of 1000 per day is pocket change and should be ignored as the new normal. But the US also chose to go to war for 20 years and spent 4 trillion USD after 3000 casualties on 9/11. If that reaction was not ouf of proportion, then Covid would justify 2000 years of war and 400 trillion of costs or lost GDP. Personally, I believe it was out of proportion and the US government reaction to Covid has been meh, probably because SARS-COV-2 does not wear a beard and a turban, so it cannot incite a rally-around-the-flag effect. Too bad for the 1000/day, for whom the Trump government cannot be bothered to make much of an organized, national effort. 

 

The seasonal flu has a fatality rate of 0.1%. Not every seasonal flu is as dangerous as the Spanish flu. Covid: 198,000 / 6.7 million cases in the US = 3% fatality rate, 30 times as much as the seasonal flu. So this is a once-in-a-century event. The Spanish flu, which probably neiter you nor I "remember", also led to (imperfect) lockdowns to get it under control. 500,000 to 850,000 US citizens died. Agent Orange´s competent management has only caused half as much so far, but only half a year has elapsed. By 2021Q2, if no fast-track vaccine can be widely distributed and at a rate of 1000/day, he will easily catch up to 500,000, 1.5% of the US population. You consider that pocket change?

https://lockdownsceptics.org/radical-uncertainty-and-government-innumeracy/?fbclid=IwAR1WuRDU-5l5iA5EqN9fm6Lbl-EhIAvPYo7ROgD9RZHmT30YFdPh3y8ypPE

 

This is a long read but well worth it, The numbers they are declaring is well out of wack from the real numbers due to false positives.

There is no need for vaccines and these mad lockdowns ruining many lives and businesses.

[HashBrownHarry]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

covid free innocents are being infected though.... how  is it reducing the risk ?

 

The mind boggles.

You should never answer a question with a question.

 

I have no idea what your first sentence means?

[Nout]

11 hours ago, Don Mega said:

So if the foreigners are catching it on the plane from infected untested Thai's this goes to prove social distancing and face masks don't work.

No it means some measures are partially effective some of the time NOT 100% effective all of the time.

[Nout]

3 hours ago, bodga said:

no  we  should,  how  about mask under the nose, many Thais do  that.

Many people do but most don't. Why mention Thais? Your selective vision is just racist thai bashing.

[Sheryl]

2 hours ago, Don Mega said:

They are hardly sitting shoulder to shoulder though.

Pretty close to it in economy. And standing close together boarding and disembarking. 

[Andre0720]

13 hours ago, Don Mega said:

So if the foreigners are catching it on the plane from infected untested Thai's this goes to prove social distancing and face masks don't work.

And if people are dying on the roads, it proves that speed limits do not work.