3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Oh, I see - you moved the goalposts.

 

It's one thing to comment about the realities, or likelihood of conflict, retaliation and the rest. And quite different to claim China is not engaging in actions expressing it's dissatisfaction with pretty much everything it doesn't like or approve of.

 

I'm not claiming that there will be anything effectively done vs. China. Or even that there's some realistic option to do so. Take it a step further, not even sure what the grounds for such a thing would be.

IMO the only grounds would be first strike, and I mean on US soil not Taiwan. But then life for all will probably be meaningless anyway - so that won't occur unless some misconstrued accident happens with all this pointless posturing. With the military shipping incidents/accidents seemingly trending upward in the last 10yrs that likelihood is worrying.. 

1 hour ago, scammed said:

china cant even begin to compete in an armed conflict,

they have zero force projection, but worse still is they cant even protect nearby sea lines, they couldnt even secure

the sea line to singapore

an interesting comparison

imo if the USA wants to start a fight, it's now or never

in 20 or 30 years, maybe sooner. the China military power will be superior to the USA

 

 

1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:

an interesting comparison

imo if the USA wants to start a fight, it's now or never

in 20 or 30 years, maybe sooner. the China military power will be superior to the USA

 

 

it diverge from the issue imo,

a war between the two would not ever be a land war,

the US can and will choke chinese trade to a standstill

with no effort at all, and china can not do anything about it.

they also wont be able to change that fact for at least the next 50 years, unless USA manages to kill them self by the endless budget deficits.

maybe, if they act lightning fast, they might be able to overrun taiwan before US can muster counter action,

and use those specifically developed carrier killer ballistic missiles to keep US navy out of effective reach, but for that system to be effective they would need to first set up a sound system similar to SOSUS up to 500 miles, that can be used for targeting

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by scammed