Popular Post webfact Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Trump to tell U.N. it 'must hold China accountable for their actions' on virus FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump holds a news conference on the sidelines of the 73rd session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, U.S., September 26, 2018. REUTERS/Carlos Barria WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will tell the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday it "must hold China accountable for their actions" related to the coronavirus pandemic. "The Chinese government, and the World Health Organization – which is virtually controlled by China – falsely declared that there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission," Trump will say, according to excerpts released ahead of delivery. "Later, they falsely said people without symptoms would not spread the disease ... The United Nations must hold China accountable for their actions," he will say. Trump taped his speech on Monday at the White House for delivery remotely to the General Assembly, which convened virtually this week. The president promised to distribute a vaccine and said: "We will defeat the virus, we will defeat the virus, and we will end the pandemic" and enter a new era of prosperity, cooperation and peace. Trump, a frequent critic of the United Nations, also said in the excerpts that if the UN is to be effective, it must focus on "the real problems of the world" like "terrorism, the oppression of women, forced labor, drug trafficking, human and sex trafficking, religious persecution, and the ethnic cleansing of religious minorities." (Reporting by Steve Holland; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Howard Goller) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-23 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post donnacha Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, webfact said: if the UN is to be effective, it must focus on "the real problems of the world" like "terrorism, the oppression of women, forced labor, drug trafficking, human and sex trafficking, religious persecution, and the ethnic cleansing of religious minorities." Luckily, regardless of how anyone here feels about Trump, we are all at least fair-minded enough to agree that this is a good speech, saying things that badly need to be said. Edited September 23, 2020 by donnacha 17 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 This man has huge cojones to talk like this, and someone should put them Chinese in their place... 15 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trucking Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Chinese ??? Accountable ??? Good luck with that. Wishful thinking. Indians are boycotting Chinese goods. About all anyone can do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, donnacha said: Luckily, regardless of how anyone here feels about Trump, we can all at least agree that this is a good speech, saying things that badly need to be said. Pretty much motherhood statement that anyone can read out. His blame game is distasteful and should self-reflect on his failure to protect his own citizens. 19 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Trump, a frequent critic of the United Nations, also said in the excerpts that if the UN is to be effective, it must focus on "the real problems of the world" like "terrorism, the oppression of women, forced labor, drug trafficking, human and sex trafficking, religious persecution, and the ethnic cleansing of religious minorities." Political speech appropriate but sooooo trite and disingenuous ! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Pretty much motherhood statement that anyone can read out. His blame game is distasteful and should self-reflect on his failure to protect his own citizens. The virus came from Wuhan and the CCP tried to cover it up. This is a fact. 17 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just Donald trying to distract from the fact that due to his incompetence 200,000 Americans are dead 7 4 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, rkidlad said: The virus came from Wuhan and the CCP tried to cover it up. This is a fact. Both Trump's narratives are not facts. Just his cover to defend himself from the failures to protect his own people. He still don't have a plan to protect his own people and that's a fact. 14 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, donnacha said: 1 hour ago, webfact said: if the UN is to be effective, it must focus on "the real problems of the world" like "terrorism, the oppression of women, forced labor, drug trafficking, human and sex trafficking, religious persecution, and the ethnic cleansing of religious minorities." Luckily, regardless of how anyone here feels about Trump, we are all at least fair-minded enough to agree that this is a good speech, saying things that badly need to be said. Let's see now, this speech from trump focusing on the things he deems important contain aspects which should make all people cringe......... Let's take the oppression of women, and refer to some of his comments about "grabbing women by the p*ssy", that he can do what he likes with them, and also the fact that he has used hookers in the past (and paid them to keep quiet). Also his racist remarks in the past don't really put him in a good light with regards to his speech or various other aspects of it either. Forced labour he says, forgetting that he hired illegal immigrants to build some of his projects, and paid them way below the going rate, because he could – – not exactly forced labour but along a similar line. The sooner this man is removed from office, one way or another, the better for all mankind. 15 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post donnacha Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Okay, I guess I was wrong. Not everyone is fair-minded enough. 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 That speech to the UN by Xi was scary. It was almost like a prelude to them planning to take over the world under their commie program. Xi and China are a bunch of f n liars that need to be slapped hard. 9 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, holy cow cm said: That speech to the UN by Xi was scary. It was almost like a prelude to them planning to take over the world under their commie program. Xi and China are a bunch of f n liars that need to be slapped hard. You understand Mandarin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 As I am usually the first to criticise Mr. Trump, right must be right! This is a good speech, and he have a lot of true juice in what he is saying and presenting. For once, well done Mr. Trump. Doesn´t mean will will be buddies now, but when you show this side you are possible to be tolerated. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PremiumLane Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 Can we hold the US accountable for the <deleted>show in the Middle East too? Just asking ???? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, donnacha said: Luckily, regardless of how anyone here feels about Trump, we are all at least fair-minded enough to agree that this is a good speech, saying things that badly need to be said. We agree agree with it all the more that it's what the U.N. is already doing. https://www.un.org/un70/en/content/UNaroundWorld/index.html Apart from that, the usual Trumps lies.. Edited September 23, 2020 by candide 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarjamisono Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, donnacha said: Okay, I guess I was wrong. Not everyone is fair-minded enough. They were things that have been said and do bear repeating. But not by someone who repeatedly minimized the threat. Trump is definitely the wrong man for that job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: Can we hold the US accountable for the <deleted>show in the Middle East too? Just asking ???? You can criticize them for it. You can criticize them 'til the cows come home. And after you've criticized them, you can go and visit the country without fear of being arrested or disappeared. Try doing that with China or Hong Kong. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, rkidlad said: The virus came from Wuhan and the CCP tried to cover it up. This is a fact. Cannot be ignored. The Chinese Communist government has some serious malfeasance to own up to. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, rkidlad said: You can criticize them for it. You can criticize them 'til the cows come home. And after you've criticized them, you can go and visit the country without fear of being arrested or disappeared. Try doing that with China or Hong Kong. Which still doesn't make it right, very poor argument 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, PremiumLane said: Which still doesn't make it right, very poor argument What doesn't make it right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KarenBravo Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 So.....let's rename the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic the USA virus, because that's where it probably came from. Besides, wouldn't it be better for Trump to start telling the truth to his own people before apportioning blame? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 This would have been all well and good if it wasn't for the fact he Tweeted out in January 25th 2020 - 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Tug said: Just Donald trying to distract from the fact that due to his incompetence 200,000 Americans are dead They are dead thanks to the Chinese 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Deli said: They are dead thanks to the Chinese Originally malfeasance on both sides, but at least with the Chinese it is not ongoing with Covid as with trump. For trump to demand the UN hold China 'accountable' only demonstrates trump hasn't a clue how the UN operates, nor does he have any credibility due to pulling out of and defunding a number of UN institutions. Hopefully the lessons of an unilateralist and isolationist administration will be learnt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, donnacha said: Luckily, regardless of how anyone here feels about Trump, we are all at least fair-minded enough to agree that this is a good speech, saying things that badly need to be said. You do not speak for "we". You do not get to decide what and who's "fair-minded". There is no such general agreement, or even close to it, as you try to convey. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted September 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 China is on security council and has veto power, same as USA I'd say his speech is intended for domestic consumption. He should know there is no way the UN can do anything to punish China 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, ezzra said: This man has huge cojones to talk like this, and someone should put them Chinese in their place... What are you on about? Talking tough when things are already bad between the two countries? It would have been brave if Trump could have suffered any meaningful consequences saying them - but he does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Both Trump's narratives are not facts. Just his cover to defend himself from the failures to protect his own people. He still don't have a plan to protect his own people and that's a fact. I'm aware that you're doing your best to defend the PRC, but seriously - that Trump does and says things to deflect from his own failures, doesn't absolve the PRC from it's own. It's not a zero-sum game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, holy cow cm said: That speech to the UN by Xi was scary. It was almost like a prelude to them planning to take over the world under their commie program. Xi and China are a bunch of f n liars that need to be slapped hard. Scary how? How was it a prelude for anything? And unless you missed it, it's been a while since their system had a whole lot to do with textbook Communism. Can refer to their ambitions (which I agree are wearisome) without the outdated political jargon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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