17 hours ago, NanLaew said:

What part of Thailand's extended SoE has created the biggest personal problem for the noisome farang squatters herein?

 

What exactly is the problem that has become so unbearable for others here?

 

For me, I can still go shopping, buy food, run my kids to school, dine out, drink beer with my mates, go to beach or a National Park, stay in a hotel, access unlimited high-speed internet and enjoy uncensored social media video chat with family and friends back home, bring money into the country, buy a condo, order stuff online, etc., etc..

Glad this country serves your needs so perfectly ...some of us currently stuck outside of thailand would like to return to our families, mates, condos and all the lovely same ways you exploit being a guest of the Kingdom

19 hours ago, mr mr said:

this is going to get so messy. who made these decisions in the first place to get our world into this absolute cluster f. 

 

let it rip already for the sake of humanity. we cannot take much more of this. the dire consequences being ignored are staggering to say the least. 

 

 

Blame Wuhan Virus Bioweapons 

18 hours ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

Was reading a post from a Swedish Doctor based in a major hospital there. He says the number of cases are reducing very steadily, his hospital rarely even sees a case any more. He is of the opinion that they are very close to herd immunity, and that other countries like the US where the case numbers were very high are probably close as well. In fact notice how the media now cites case numbers rather than deaths in many locales to try and keep the fear up. Cases are irrelevant as based on unreliable testing and that the recovery rate is close to 100%.

 

However he suspects isolated lock down countries like Australia and New Zealand have very little herd immunity and that they will have to stay locked down for years if an effective vaccine doesn't appear. The vaccine Australia has already put a $250 million deposit (ka-ching) down on is hoping to attain 50% effectiveness. If so expect that doctor will be right. As to Thailand not sure where they would sit, however would expect they will go with a Chinese vaccine, lets see if compulsory.

20 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Belgium, now 1 week, was  2 weeks.

France.

Thats's 2.

 

France 7 days, only for covid positive

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Oddly enough I hear France is about to lock up tight again.

Who gives a poop about Belgium?

No lockdown in France, Restaurants and bars are closed for 2 weeks as from september 26th in the Marseille area and in Guadeloupe.
In Paris restaurants and bars will close at 10pm

 

19 hours ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

This Weeks Wishful Thinking Award Winner ............      ( i have the confetti ready )

What a mess.........  I've had so many good times in Thailand over the years and to see it all come to this is so sad for everyone.......... F^%$# Pongos........  

20 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Belgium, now 1 week, was  2 weeks.

France.

Thats's 2.

 

There are loads but they call it self quarantine.

You are asked to go home & stay there for 2 weeks not collected under armed guard then driven to a residence & kept there for 2 weeks under guard like here

5 hours ago, TheFreqFlyer said:

This is a far bigger crisis though.

The Asian financial crisis depreciated the currency by around 60% and cost the government more than 25% of the foreign reserves.

Are you trying to say that the covid crisis will result in a more significant impact on the economy.

Are we to believe that the post covid £ will be worth more than double what it is today?

8 minutes ago, SupermarineS6B said:

What a mess.........  I've had so many good times in Thailand over the years and to see it all come to this is so sad for everyone.......... F^%$# Pongos........  

The British Army's lack of hygiene has got nothing at all to do with Thailand, there's been gungy pongo's since King Alfred's squabble with William the <deleted>!!!

 

https://www.lexico.com/definition/pongo 

3 hours ago, TheFreqFlyer said:

That's the thing. Countries can and do emerge from the rubble, so to speak. The longer the country remains closed, the longer this process will take and the harder it will be. 

You are quite right and history has shown how resilient Thailand can be. There is a bit more to it though than being closed, economic recovery is also dependent on how much debt has been accrued during the crisis. The Thai government has been much maligned over their control on the purse strings but other countries have dug a financial hole that will take generations to get over. The effect on the Thai economy pales into insignificance compared to some of the oil producers like Iraq that are almost totally dependent on one revenue source.

Only time will tell how recovery gets implemented but I should imagine that countries around the world that were heavily dependent on tourism, or any other hard hit sector, will have learned a lesson and be reluctant to put things back as they were.

Diversity will take on a whole new meaning.

21 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Name one.

Belgium from 2 to 1 week

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by flyfrog

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It made me go to Thai immigration for two extensions when I still have a perfectly valid Non-O (until April 2021).

It made me put 400k in a dodgy Thai bank, when I wanted that money in my UK bank.

It made me cut short one holiday in Siem Reap (March), cancelled another holiday to Phnom Penh (April), and probably missed two holidays I would have had in Vietnam. 

 

But on the plus side ........

It's reduced my mortgage rate from 6.25% to 4.75%.

Reduced my kids university fees from 16k to 12k, and my other kids Junior school 'extras' from 8k to 6k.

Gave me enough money (saved from no holidays) to buy a real motorcycle at a bargain price (Thai sellers are desperate).

And made my sideline girl very affordable, as she claims I'm her only customer left (apart from a guy in Oz who sends her money for 'phone sex'.

tell her ill have phone sex with him and you'll save a few more quid. 

45 minutes ago, flyfrog said:

Belgium from 2 to 1 week

Belgium as a place to move ........ it's right up there with Syria, Somalia and Iran/Iraq IMHO.

I'm betting the refugees from those countries give it a miss as well.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by BritManToo

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Oddly enough I hear France is about to lock up tight again.

Who gives a poop about Belgium?

Belgium beer and chocolates, oh yeah!

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The UK where they just announced pubs must close by 10pm?

And all gatherings of more than 6 totally banned.

I'd say that indicated getting worse, not getting better.

@BritManToo 3 countries have been mentioned now and still you argue the fact????

7 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

The type of control that you are referring to is in your head. 

Emergency = Control of the virus.  Still, perhaps you're partly right. ???? 

That is your opinion in my head no different than your opinion being in your head. It is just a opinion there is no facts etc what is factual is at times people respond and think their opinion is actual fact and still to the end with that theory. 

 

See they continue with this Emergency the Virus gives them the excuse when it might just be to keep things in order declare a lockdown, and to keep the protest in check of course that is just a theory in my head which is really no different than yours except you just don't want to believe it?

Using the virus as an excuse to maintain grip on power.. most positive results are meaningless from a disease control point of view..Why Covid Results Don’t Mean What You Think

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by chrle3809

On 9/24/2020 at 6:00 PM, CGW said:

The "controla virus" agenda looks like it will be dragging on for a while yet. ???? ????

 

Obviously the statistics just released by CDC mean nothing (apart from close to a 100% survival rate!) Taken from report:-

for different age groups, https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Think it is more about permanent damage to the respiratory system, should it be contracted in a 2nd or 3rd wave, with more serious death and health figures which seem to be happening in the UK etc....

6 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

Some people say any vaccine is only 50% to 60% effective so we can not say a vaccine is the Golden cure many hope it to be.

I haven't read that, in fact I've read higher percentages, but who knows and it's not my expertise. 

 

I'm keeping positive that it will be much better than 50-60% effective. And I tend to believe that the virus experts are well capable of inventing a strongly effective vaccine. 

22 hours ago, EricTh said:

Just close it for 5 years until all the virus have died.

 

 Sadly , I have to agree with you .

   Keep farangs  visitors @ bay ...

  I have a Tha wife , and two children ..

 

3 hours ago, Jiggo said:

Think it is more about permanent damage to the respiratory system, should it be contracted in a 2nd or 3rd wave, with more serious death and health figures which seem to be happening in the UK etc....

Ah - ok, so that is a latest "reasoning" in the ongoing Controla virus agenda, great reason for creating the biggest mental health and poverty crisis in history, sure they will be right, after all, Politicians never lie, it's for our own safety - yeh right!

Lets add that one to the list. - Done! ???? 

The virus comes from bats
The origin of the virus may be bat soup
It comes from Wuhan open air wet markets
All Chinese wet markets should be closed immediately
There is an intermediate animal vector but we don’t know what it is
No intermediate animal vector can be identified
It is a bat virus from bats
The origin of the virus may not be bat soup
The virus cannot possibly be manmade and NO DISCUSSION of this can take place
The virus is NOT a bioweapon and NO DISCUSSION of this can take place
500,000 could die in the UK —  “Imperial College Experts”
Millions will die in China
The fatality rate is much higher than Influenza
Lockdowns will work — we will flatten the Curve
We must Flatten the Curve — to save our health system
We are all in this together
Staying Apart Keeps Us Together
We must close our hospitals to save them
We have to build emergency testing centers
Mass graves are being dug
We must stop all hospital treatments of other diseases
All routine surgery must stop even for cancer patients
Dying from cancer or heart disease is OK but not if you have Covid 19
Then it is horrible, Covid 19 deaths are horrible
The hospitals must stand empty, waiting for the onslaught
We will need thousands of new intensive care ventilators
It’s all about flattening the curve
It’s not about flattening the curve
Social Distancing must be 1.5 meters (exactly)
Staying Apart Keeps Us Together
We are all at risk — everyone can die — even children
You cannot sit on grass — dangerous
You cannot picnic at a table  — dangerous
You cannot walk on sand  — dangerous
You cannot swim in the ocean  — dangerous
Beaches are dangerous
Masks prevent you from spreading the virus
Masks protect you from getting the virus
It doesn’t matter what type of mask you wear
It doesn’t matter how often you change your mask
It doesn’t matter where you dispose of your mask
Wear gloves
Don’t wear gloves
If you are walking, you must wear a mask
If you are jogging, you do not need to wear a mask
Death numbers don’t matter, only case numbers
We will not tell you our definition of a “case” — never
There will be ABSOLUTELY NO discussion of False Positive Tests
There will be ABSOLUTELY NO discussion of False Negative Tests
There will be ABSOLUTELY NO discussion of Test Accuracy
There will be ABSOLUTELY NO discussion of PCR Tests versus Antibody Tests
Rapid Antibody Tests will soon be available and will save the day
Rapid Antibody Tests are of no use
We don’t need thousands of new intensive care ventilators
We have no idea for how long the virus is infectious
A quarantine period of exactly 2 weeks is mandated and will stop the spread
We are all in this together
Staying Apart Keeps Us Together
Hotel quarantines will be policed by untrained, unemployed people
Borders must be closed but not for some special people
Special people can be given permission to cross borders (especially if rich and famous)
The Phone Tracking App must be downloaded and will be the ultimate weapon
Everyone must download the Phone Tracking App
At least 6 million must download the Phone Tracking App
Forget the Phone Tracking App
In Melbourne lockdown, you cannot shop more than exactly 5kms from home
In Melbourne lockdown, you can walk for exactly 1 hour per day (and no more)
Coffee Shops contain the Virus, Supermarkets do not
Restaurants are dangerous
Staying Apart Keeps Us Together
BLM Protests are safe and OK
Protests against lockdowns are a “serious threat and dangerous”
Protests against lockdowns require massive police control and mass arrests
Professional athletes (especially professional footballers) are not at risk
The virus is not present on the grass on professional football fields
Mandatory Influenza shots will help protect professional footballers
Any footballer refusing a Flu shot is irresponsible and cannot play
Highway signs  — “Covid 19 — Get your Flu Shot”
The Second Wave is coming
Forget about flattening the curve
A vaccine is coming within months
The vaccine will be mandatory
The vaccine will be as mandatory as possible
The vaccine will not be mandatory
(all three within minutes from the Prime Minister)
Give Billions to vaccine developers and call them heroes
The vaccine will save us all, it is our only hope
The vaccine will be safe and effective
The vaccine will be here before November
The vaccine will be a cure
A vaccine will be unlikely (after the Russian vaccine was announced)
Hydroxychloroquine is a very safe drug, used by millions for decades
Hydroxychloroquine is a safe effective treatment if used with Zinc in early stage disease
Hydroxychloroquine is extremely dangerous and is now banned
All discussion concerning Hydroxychloroquine is DANGEROUS
All discussion concerning Hydroxychloroquine is FORBIDDEN
No discussions of normal vaccine development periods are allowed
No discussions concerning vaccine safety are allowed
No discussions concerning vaccine effectiveness are allowed
We are controlling the virus
We don’t want to lose control of the virus
We are not trying to eliminate the virus
Our aim is to eliminate the virus
You cannot leave Australia without special permission
You cannot cross State borders without special permission
All Doctors who challenge the official narrative should be ignored
Those Doctors are clearly incompetent
We want to keep you safe, the scientists are in charge
We always act on scientific advice (carefully selected)
You can always depend on us to signal our virtue
We only take these grave decisions on the best scientific advice
The Dreaded Second Wave is here
The second wave is dangerous
Nothing is our fault, nothing
Staying Apart Keeps Us Together
We will not discuss co-morbid diseases as a cause of death
We will continue to label all deaths as Covid deaths
We will not discuss the fact that 94% of “Covid” deaths are from co-morbid diseases
We will continue to emphasize “case” numbers and not death numbers
We will not define what a “case” is — Never — Case numbers are paramount
We will never compare death numbers of Covid 19 versus Influenza death rates
No comparisons between Covid and Influenza epidemics will be tolerated
You can rely on us to generate maximum panic and fear
That is our solemn promise to keep you safe
We care for you, this is not about politics
We are virtuous, caring, taking medical advice, in control
The second wave is not so dangerous
That is all  —  apologies to MASH and Animal Farm/George Orwell
We are all in this together
Staying Apart Keeps Us Together.

There will be a second and 3rd and you get the message, lots of waves until we have subdued the masses and can control them with ease.

On 9/24/2020 at 7:21 PM, BritManToo said:

Oddly enough I hear France is about to lock up tight again.

Who gives a poop about Belgium?

You asked him to name one - he named two - not good enough for you?

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

I'm keeping positive that it will be much better than 50-60% effective. And I tend to believe that the virus experts are well capable of inventing a strongly effective vaccine. 

Serious question, at what point in time did you decide that your immune system wasn't enough to allow you exist without pumping chemicals and aborted fetus into yourself by so called virus experts who are developing & selling vaccines for huge amounts of money. 

Your in the majority for sure, how has everyone been convinced that the only way humanity can exist is by enriching the Pharmaceutical industry, is your immune system corrupted, are you unable to strengthen your immune system or do you have no faith in it, it can be boosted by taking Vitamins that you may be deficient in, you would think if "they" cared so much for our well being that we would be constantly told how to go about doing this, eat healthy etc.

What happened to society, total belief in the Technocratic system indoctrinated into folks, people are no longer capable of thinking for themselves, they have to be told what to believe? fine, if the system was not corrupt, appears to me it is, what makes you think its not?

The fact is that people who have a 00.003% chance of getting sick from the controla virus are going to queue up to pump obnoxious chemicals into themselves.

Or is it blind faith - they would never lie, Is Technocracy the only way forward, we are all too stupid to think for ourselves and have to rely on well paid "experts" to tell us what to do, think and believe. (This is one of the points in the UN vision for 2030)

Its beyond my comprehension how people have lost the right to think and question, maybe you can enlighten me?

 

2 hours ago, CGW said:

Serious question, at what point in time did you decide that your immune system wasn't enough to allow you exist without pumping chemicals and aborted fetus into yourself by so called virus experts who are developing & selling vaccines for huge amounts of money. 

Your in the majority for sure, how has everyone been convinced that the only way humanity can exist is by enriching the Pharmaceutical industry, is your immune system corrupted, are you unable to strengthen your immune system or do you have no faith in it, it can be boosted by taking Vitamins that you may be deficient in, you would think if "they" cared so much for our well being that we would be constantly told how to go about doing this, eat healthy etc.

What happened to society, total belief in the Technocratic system indoctrinated into folks, people are no longer capable of thinking for themselves, they have to be told what to believe? fine, if the system was not corrupt, appears to me it is, what makes you think its not?

The fact is that people who have a 00.003% chance of getting sick from the controla virus are going to queue up to pump obnoxious chemicals into themselves.

Or is it blind faith - they would never lie, Is Technocracy the only way forward, we are all too stupid to think for ourselves and have to rely on well paid "experts" to tell us what to do, think and believe. (This is one of the points in the UN vision for 2030)

Its beyond my comprehension how people have lost the right to think and question, maybe you can enlighten me?

 

It's my choice whether to pump obnoxious chemicals (as you call them, but I wouldn't) into my body, Your very quick to be so personal in your attack, not appreciated. 

 

I'm 75 years old, and there's obvious proof from many countries that older folks catch the virus more quickly and are much more likely to die. Plus I have a severe recurring COPD (bronchitis) condition (lung damage from my war service in Vietnam) which makes even more likely that if I catch the virus I will be very ill quickly and probably die. Plus in the past I have had pneumonia, again at my age making it more easy to get very sick quick from the virus and death more likely.

 

So I'll take the vaccine. 

 

No further discussion thanks. 

Ducking azzholez!!!

On 9/24/2020 at 7:49 PM, teacherclaire said:

Psst. If you don't test people, you'll have 0 percent. And a few positive patients might not even be mentioned, it destroys the good looking result.

 

MTGA. Make Thailand Great Again. Get rid off the soldier who plays politician. 

 

   

That's right... they are now using Myanmar as an excuse. Good enough for the PM to hold on to his sweeping dictatorial powers for another month at least.

Shock horror, extended again and no tourists allowed. Anyway we are all infected again in Europe, so won't be welcome anyway!

Extend emergency: yes.

 

Extend amnesty: no.